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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1305 on: June 13, 2024, 02:28:05 PM »
That is a reasonable thing for Manchester United to think, because there is no guarantee that they will be able to get a better coach if they fire Erik Ten Hag in a hurry.

Maybe currently they are still looking for a name that suits them and they don't want to fire Erik Ten Hag before they have certainty about getting the coach they will appoint. However, hopefully Erik Ten Hag can be better next season and bring Manchester United to a good game.
Have been final with Manchester United head coach next season is Erik ten Hag, management appointed Erik ten Hag and no doubt give him opportunities get third season to manage Manchester United.
Actually I doubt with Erik ten Hag will make Manchester uniter performance better next season after failure and finish on 8th position place this season. I think  management have make clause deal with Erik ten Hag target reaching top fourth standings position or he will loss his position before next season ended.
That is a realistic target for Erik Ten Hag, I mean it is impossible for management to target them becoming champions next season, because that is something that is very difficult considering what they have shown this season.

Also in the Europa League, it looks like Manchester United is targeting something better, after this season they failed miserably in the Champions League. they were also lucky because they got a place in the European League through their achievement in the FA Cup.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1306 on: June 13, 2024, 04:10:21 PM »
The board is not serious to replace Eric Ten Hag, how will you say that they are looking for a good replacement, for how long. Since the beginning of the past season till the end before the last match against City that made United to win the FA cup trophy, United performance has being horrible. If they needed a good coach, they should have made their mind since the middle of the season but instead they were waiting to see what will happen at the end of the season. Ten Hag won a trophy and they are happy and cool with his horrible performance. I don't expect any improvement in the club's performance next season.

It's the same thing I was thinking but INEOS thinks better than you and I before doing something, I am sure INEOS will negotiate a good deal and will be readjusting some terms in the old contract
Just let him manage this season and see how he does if he does well he gets a new contract if he doesn’t INEOS can let him go without paying any extra money.
Let's see if INEOS are any better than the greedy yanks :)

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1307 on: June 13, 2024, 04:54:41 PM »
The board is not serious to replace Eric Ten Hag, how will you say that they are looking for a good replacement, for how long. Since the beginning of the past season till the end before the last match against City that made United to win the FA cup trophy, United performance has being horrible. If they needed a good coach, they should have made their mind since the middle of the season but instead they were waiting to see what will happen at the end of the season. Ten Hag won a trophy and they are happy and cool with his horrible performance. I don't expect any improvement in the club's performance next season.

It's the same thing I was thinking but INEOS thinks better than you and I before doing something, I am sure INEOS will negotiate a good deal and will be readjusting some terms in the old contract
Just let him manage this season and see how he does if he does well he gets a new contract if he doesn’t INEOS can let him go without paying any extra money.
Let's see if INEOS are any better than the greedy yanks :)
I don't want to underestimate Ten Hag but I actually can't expect much from Ten Hag after seeing the bad season that MU had last season.

What surprised me was that Ten Hag was not only maintained there. but the latest news I read is that Ten Hag is also negotiating to extend his contract until around 2028. I really don't understand the situation. Because I initially thought the club would just allow Ten Hag to coach the club next season and make another assessment afterwards before deciding whether to extend the contract or not. But in fact now negotiations for a contract extension are underway and are reportedly almost at the final stage. Let's just see how Man United will do next season.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1308 on: June 13, 2024, 06:22:37 PM »
I don't want to underestimate Ten Hag but I actually can't expect much from Ten Hag after seeing the bad season that MU had last season.

What surprised me was that Ten Hag was not only maintained there. but the latest news I read is that Ten Hag is also negotiating to extend his contract until around 2028. I really don't understand the situation. Because I initially thought the club would just allow Ten Hag to coach the club next season and make another assessment afterwards before deciding whether to extend the contract or not. But in fact now negotiations for a contract extension are underway and are reportedly almost at the final stage. Let's just see how Man United will do next season.

INEOS' decision to keep Ten Hag and give him a new contract is based on their expertise and assessment of the situation at the club. Ten Hag is considered to be in alignment with the INEOS vision and they thought this was the best course of action.
Of course, we can disagree with this decision but I won't rush to judgment before looking at United next season.
As a Manchester United fan, I expect them to play good football and see the results and I pray for a better next season because last season was bad.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1309 on: June 13, 2024, 07:53:01 PM »
INEOS' decision to keep Ten Hag and give him a new contract is based on their expertise and assessment of the situation at the club. Ten Hag is considered to be in alignment with the INEOS vision and they thought this was the best course of action.
Of course, we can disagree with this decision but I won't rush to judgment before looking at United next season.
As a Manchester United fan, I expect them to play good football and see the results and I pray for a better next season because last season was bad.
INEOS certainly has a judgment as to why it retained Erik Ten Hag because of the mission alignment that they can expect again to start the new season, fans should not be disappointed because INEOS did this with full consideration.
If Erik Ten Hag fails to fulfill what INEOS wants then it will no longer be in line, of course Erik Ten Hag still has strong chemistry for Manchester United.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1310 on: June 13, 2024, 10:19:41 PM »
INEOS' decision to keep Ten Hag and give him a new contract is based on their expertise and assessment of the situation at the club. Ten Hag is considered to be in alignment with the INEOS vision and they thought this was the best course of action.
Of course, we can disagree with this decision but I won't rush to judgment before looking at United next season.
As a Manchester United fan, I expect them to play good football and see the results and I pray for a better next season because last season was bad.
INEOS certainly has a judgment as to why it retained Erik Ten Hag because of the mission alignment that they can expect again to start the new season, fans should not be disappointed because INEOS did this with full consideration.
If Erik Ten Hag fails to fulfill what INEOS wants then it will no longer be in line, of course Erik Ten Hag still has strong chemistry for Manchester United.
Several things may come into consideration. However, this is the best choice. Many people say that Ten Hag was chosen as their football manager again because Man United and he won 1 FA Cup trophy this season by beating Man City in the final round. And this is an achievement that is enough to strengthen Man United to retain ten Hag.

Not to mention, because currently there is no other best option for Man United. It is rumored that they have contacted several football managers or coaches, but it doesn't seem to have worked. Meanwhile, Ten Hag still wants to continue his mission at Man United.

Yes, we'll see how this season goes, they will enter the Europa League so they can at least have the opportunity to be at a higher level this season too. Certainly Ten Hag doesn't have very high targets this season with Man United's condition still like that. But at least, going to UCL in the next season will definitely be his main target. Ten Hag must be braver and more assertive in choosing really good players and letting go of controversial and bad players. Also, communication channels with the entire squad must be improved so that the club is even more solid.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1311 on: June 14, 2024, 04:43:18 PM »
Chelsea will be with a new head coach this season after they fired Pochettino who actually I think Pochettino made a difference in their game. However, Chelsea doesn't seem to want to give their coach a longer chance.

I hope the decisions they take are in line with what they expected and Enzo can bring them to play even better and be able to compete at the top of the English Premier League next season.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1312 on: June 14, 2024, 05:37:07 PM »
INEOS' decision to keep Ten Hag and give him a new contract is based on their expertise and assessment of the situation at the club. Ten Hag is considered to be in alignment with the INEOS vision and they thought this was the best course of action.
Of course, we can disagree with this decision but I won't rush to judgment before looking at United next season.
As a Manchester United fan, I expect them to play good football and see the results and I pray for a better next season because last season was bad.
INEOS certainly has a judgment as to why it retained Erik Ten Hag because of the mission alignment that they can expect again to start the new season, fans should not be disappointed because INEOS did this with full consideration.
If Erik Ten Hag fails to fulfill what INEOS wants then it will no longer be in line, of course Erik Ten Hag still has strong chemistry for Manchester United.
Several things may come into consideration. However, this is the best choice. Many people say that Ten Hag was chosen as their football manager again because Man United and he won 1 FA Cup trophy this season by beating Man City in the final round. And this is an achievement that is enough to strengthen Man United to retain ten Hag.

Not to mention, because currently there is no other best option for Man United. It is rumored that they have contacted several football managers or coaches, but it doesn't seem to have worked. Meanwhile, Ten Hag still wants to continue his mission at Man United.

Yes, we'll see how this season goes, they will enter the Europa League so they can at least have the opportunity to be at a higher level this season too. Certainly Ten Hag doesn't have very high targets this season with Man United's condition still like that. But at least, going to UCL in the next season will definitely be his main target. Ten Hag must be braver and more assertive in choosing really good players and letting go of controversial and bad players. Also, communication channels with the entire squad must be improved so that the club is even more solid.
Manchester united is not serious to replace Ten Hag if not they should have being looking for a replacement since in the middle of last season when United was nothing to write home about. After a very poor performance from the beginning of the season to the end, just one match which was the last that ETH won. He has become a good coach..No,i don't see him as a good coach he won that match by luck.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1313 on: June 14, 2024, 06:54:59 PM »
Chelsea will be with a new head coach this season after they fired Pochettino who actually I think Pochettino made a difference in their game. However, Chelsea doesn't seem to want to give their coach a longer chance.

I hope the decisions they take are in line with what they expected and Enzo can bring them to play even better and be able to compete at the top of the English Premier League next season.

Pochettino made a difference but he made the called very late in the Premier League. They wasted so much games that it becomes norms they were losing all the time and it was concerning for the management and the fans. It even became a norm for Chelsea to lose match but towards the end of the season, things became better but I think the management already made their call before the end of the season to change him as the next season manager. I hope the new one does better than Pochettino otherwise it's going to be slap on all their faces.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1314 on: June 14, 2024, 07:55:06 PM »
Pochettino made a difference but he made the called very late in the Premier League. They wasted so much games that it becomes norms they were losing all the time and it was concerning for the management and the fans. It even became a norm for Chelsea to lose match but towards the end of the season, things became better but I think the management already made their call before the end of the season to change him as the next season manager. I hope the new one does better than Pochettino otherwise it's going to be slap on all their faces.
Pochettino is late to make that effort even though they have performed well at the end of the season so menageman thinks this is not a good solution to keep, actually this is still a debate why Chelsea continues to sack coaches and not give many opportunities? Because they are not satisfied or indeed their targets are too high?
Let Maresca answer it all because for me new coaches always have different strategies and in this way Chelsea will be a little different.

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« Reply #1315 on: June 14, 2024, 09:34:56 PM »
Let Maresca answer it all because for me new coaches always have different strategies and in this way Chelsea will be a little different.

A good coach has the quality to bring out the best talent and abilities from potential players such as Argentinian midfielder Enzo Fernandez, who struggled last season due to playing through injury.
Enzo Fernandez is a good player and we will see if Maresca can help him improve his game
But looking at his track record, I don't expect too much from Maresca in his first season with Chelsea.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1316 on: June 14, 2024, 09:50:05 PM »
Let Maresca answer it all because for me new coaches always have different strategies and in this way Chelsea will be a little different.

A good coach has the quality to bring out the best talent and abilities from potential players such as Argentinian midfielder Enzo Fernandez, who struggled last season due to playing through injury.
Enzo Fernandez is a good player and we will see if Maresca can help him improve his game
But looking at his track record, I don't expect too much from Maresca in his first season with Chelsea.
And sometimes seeing how a club develops under new coaching is always quite interesting. And this season I am also interested to see how Liverpool develops, which also has a new coach like Chelsea. So let's see how Chelsea and Liverpool develop with their new coaches. This will be very interesting for us to follow.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1317 on: June 14, 2024, 11:19:58 PM »
Several things may come into consideration. However, this is the best choice. Many people say that Ten Hag was chosen as their football manager again because Man United and he won 1 FA Cup trophy this season by beating Man City in the final round. And this is an achievement that is enough to strengthen Man United to retain ten Hag.

Not to mention, because currently there is no other best option for Man United. It is rumored that they have contacted several football managers or coaches, but it doesn't seem to have worked. Meanwhile, Ten Hag still wants to continue his mission at Man United.
Manchester united is not serious to replace Ten Hag if not they should have being looking for a replacement since in the middle of last season when United was nothing to write home about. After a very poor performance from the beginning of the season to the end, just one match which was the last that ETH won. He has become a good coach..No,i don't see him as a good coach he won that match by luck.
Some of the things above may be the reasons why Man United still retains Ten Hag and why Ten Hag still wants to be at Man United. Yes, at least we will see another season of the two of them together, who knows whether they will continue with quite good achievements, at least they can enter the UCL next season. or it will actually be worse than this season. Ten Hag should have learned a lot from last season, so that he can make more wise and sensible tactics and strategies.

Oh yaa, this also has something to do with management intervention, especially in player selection, both player sales and recruitment, including contract extensions for certain players. Let Ten Hag try to do well to test whether their decision was right or not with Ten Hag again this season. Ah, that's enough to talk about this club, because Man United's decline is not just because of their coach but also very complex, especially in terms of management, right?

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« Reply #1318 on: June 15, 2024, 04:29:02 PM »
And sometimes seeing how a club develops under new coaching is always quite interesting. And this season I am also interested to see how Liverpool develops, which also has a new coach like Chelsea. So let's see how Chelsea and Liverpool develop with their new coaches. This will be very interesting for us to follow.

Liverpool and Chelsea are two elite clubs in the Premier League, but their achievements last season were less than optimal.
And this season we all hope that they will perform even more optimally, but if we compare the achievements and experience of the two coaches, I think Arne Slot has better qualities than Maresca in coaching a big club.
Slot led Feyenoord to win the 2023/2024 League title, he also won the title of best coach for the 2021/2022 and 2022/2023 seasons.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1319 on: June 15, 2024, 05:31:10 PM »
Chelsea will be with a new head coach this season after they fired Pochettino who actually I think Pochettino made a difference in their game. However, Chelsea doesn't seem to want to give their coach a longer chance.

I hope the decisions they take are in line with what they expected and Enzo can bring them to play even better and be able to compete at the top of the English Premier League next season.

Pochettino made a difference but he made the called very late in the Premier League. They wasted so much games that it becomes norms they were losing all the time and it was concerning for the management and the fans. It even became a norm for Chelsea to lose match but towards the end of the season, things became better but I think the management already made their call before the end of the season to change him as the next season manager. I hope the new one does better than Pochettino otherwise it's going to be slap on all their faces.
We can't expect much when a coach is appointed when the team is in decline and that's what happened to Pochettino. I don't think it's wise to just blame Pochettino when he didn't take advantage of several matches that ultimately made them lose.

But we also can't close it down, with some of the changes that Pochettino can show, he just hasn't been able to make Chelsea that consistent. We can see when they face a strong team and they can fight back.

 

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