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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1335 on: June 19, 2024, 11:59:29 PM »
Pochettino not really failure for his first season become Chelsea manager, got problem with many senior players selling by management and he has home work how to make young players adapting well with his tactician on the first season. I think every manager need time developing their tactician actually Pochettino get leaving by many senior players and management give him most of young players get their first appearance for playing in domestic league.

I think Enzo Maresca will get more easily with tactician leaving by Pochettino because he can build good composition for next season after some players get adapting well on their first season with Chelsea.
I can agree with you. Pochettino actually could reshape again Chelsea squad well. He can lead Chelsea to finish in 6th place, it is not a really bad position. Unfortunately, the management of Chelsea doesn't care with the improvement, they still fired him at the end of the season. TBH, I'm surprised with the decision of Chelsea management. Moreover, the change Pochettino with Maresca. I personally think Pochettino is much better than Maresca if we consider their career so far.

In theory, Maresca may be easier to manage Chelsea. But since it is the first time that he manages Chelsea, I am not sure if it will be quite easy for him. Morever, if Chelsea players don't really trust him and may not suit with the tactics used by Maresca, it even may lead to a bad situation for Maresca. So let's see how Maresca can adapt with Chelsea players!

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1335 on: June 19, 2024, 11:59:29 PM »

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1336 on: June 20, 2024, 05:37:52 AM »
In theory, Maresca may be easier to manage Chelsea. But since it is the first time that he manages Chelsea, I am not sure if it will be quite easy for him. Morever, if Chelsea players don't really trust him and may not suit with the tactics used by Maresca, it even may lead to a bad situation for Maresca. So let's see how Maresca can adapt with Chelsea players!
Right, Enzo Maresca has easily way for adopting his tactician after Pochettino build team work most of new players in this season. Most of Chelsea new player in this season have adapted well with Pochettino tactician but difference tactician from Enzo Maresca need new adaption for Chelsea players.
Although have signed many youth players in this season, Enzo Maresca keep signing new players and recently sign player from Fulham, I think he need some new players back up at several position from defender, midfielder until attacking line to build Chelsea as solid team for winning Premier League or return to be big four teams.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1337 on: June 20, 2024, 10:14:59 AM »
Right, Enzo Maresca has easily way for adopting his tactician after Pochettino build team work most of new players in this season. Most of Chelsea new player in this season have adapted well with Pochettino tactician but difference tactician from Enzo Maresca need new adaption for Chelsea players.
Although have signed many youth players in this season, Enzo Maresca keep signing new players and recently sign player from Fulham, I think he need some new players back up at several position from defender, midfielder until attacking line to build Chelsea as solid team for winning Premier League or return to be big four teams.
Well, Enzo Maresca's task may not be as difficult as Pochettino's at the start of last season. Because at the start of last season Chelsea was really in the worst condition. But this season Chelsea has become better thanks to the improvements made by Pochettino. but the problem is whether Enzo wants to reshape Chelsea or wants to continue the results that have been established by Pochettino. And actually the easier step is for Enzo to choose to continue everything that Pochettino has built. So that the players don't need to adapt much again.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1338 on: June 20, 2024, 01:35:52 PM »
Well, Enzo Maresca's task may not be as difficult as Pochettino's at the start of last season. Because at the start of last season Chelsea was really in the worst condition. But this season Chelsea has become better thanks to the improvements made by Pochettino. but the problem is whether Enzo wants to reshape Chelsea or wants to continue the results that have been established by Pochettino. And actually the easier step is for Enzo to choose to continue everything that Pochettino has built. So that the players don't need to adapt much again.
I think there will definitely be changes, because every coach has a different way of thinking and that will affect the different composition of players and the strategies they will use. Now the question is will Enzo succeed with that?

In terms of assignments, it might be true that he doesn't get assignments like Pochettino. But in terms of pressure I think it's not much different, even now he has to be able to play better because some people will definitely start comparing.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1339 on: June 20, 2024, 05:58:14 PM »
INEOS' decision to keep Ten Hag and give him a new contract is based on their expertise and assessment of the situation at the club. Ten Hag is considered to be in alignment with the INEOS vision and they thought this was the best course of action.
Of course, we can disagree with this decision but I won't rush to judgment before looking at United next season.
As a Manchester United fan, I expect them to play good football and see the results and I pray for a better next season because last season was bad.
INEOS certainly has a judgment as to why it retained Erik Ten Hag because of the mission alignment that they can expect again to start the new season, fans should not be disappointed because INEOS did this with full consideration.
If Erik Ten Hag fails to fulfill what INEOS wants then it will no longer be in line, of course Erik Ten Hag still has strong chemistry for Manchester United.

Well the truth is I see this in a totally different way, for me Ten Hag has never hit the nail on the head and I don't think he will, because he's a person who has been there for 3 seasons and hasn't achieved anything at all, this time not even in the 4th, I don't know what the situation of the team will be like, but as long as he's there I give low hope to the MU fans who see their team emerge, I see that the MU is way behind the teams in the PL, and considering that this coach will stay, I think a lot of players will leave because nobody wants to be with a losing team, yes, they won the FA Cup, but really that doesn't represent anything, at least in my opinion and without offending any MU fan.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1340 on: June 20, 2024, 11:31:19 PM »
Well, Enzo Maresca's task may not be as difficult as Pochettino's at the start of last season.
The new Chelsea's coach task is as difficult as the old one because the last one did not really achieve any great results or any target that was set for him, at least I think so. He has the task to take Chelsea back into the champions league and that will not be easy with other teams in the league gearing up for it as well. Liverpool will want to retain their position, Manchester United coach will want the champions League spot too.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1341 on: June 20, 2024, 11:42:07 PM »
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Yam, you could say that, it's quite a big gamble for Man United. Because on the one hand, they have to stay with Ten Hag, who is often controversial. And on the other hand, they have no other best alternative. But now is the time for that again.

Currently, Man United is targeting several players who are considered talented and good for them.
Yeah, I guess that's the best reason for the decision. One draw back from that is the players that they could be buying now for millions will not be favored by the next manager the following season. Rebuilding (player changes) due to changes in leadership is costly too.
Ten Hag has a lot of homework at Man United even though previously he was also the new United coach. And he has to learn a lot from various mistakes in the past at this club. Yes, because Man United is this complicated, that's why Ten Hag has to work extra hard. He must rebuild the team and make it even stronger. However, he also did not deny that this would not be easy for him or Man United.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1342 on: June 21, 2024, 11:03:23 PM »
However, he also did not deny that this would not be easy for him or Man United.
The Manchester United coach will not have an excuse or be spared if he does not deliver this season or meet the expectations of the club in every game. With other clubs getting new coaches, Manchester United supporters may be finding it difficult to adapt to the idea that the same coach who was not very good for them last season is still their coach going into the next season. I am not expecting much from Manchester United still.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1343 on: June 21, 2024, 11:40:41 PM »
Ten Hag has a lot of homework at Man United even though previously he was also the new United coach. And he has to learn a lot from various mistakes in the past at this club. Yes, because Man United is this complicated, that's why Ten Hag has to work extra hard. He must rebuild the team and make it even stronger. However, he also did not deny that this would not be easy for him or Man United.
Ten Hag didn't build Man United squad properly, that's why he always has many homework. Just take a look the defense line of Man United, it looks very messy. I don't understand why Ten Hag has no ability to choose proper defenders for Man United. If he wants Man United be a stronger team, he must be aware that Man United needs better defenders. It is also strange that he keeps Maguire but never try to keep Varane.

Another problem of Ten Hag is he can't make a good relationship among the players. I don't understand why he always has a problem with few players. I think he is too egoistic in deciding anything without thinking about the players. This should be corrected by Ten Hag, he must have good relationship with all players. 


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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1344 on: June 22, 2024, 12:10:19 AM »
Ten Hag has a lot of homework at Man United even though previously he was also the new United coach. And he has to learn a lot from various mistakes in the past at this club. Yes, because Man United is this complicated, that's why Ten Hag has to work extra hard. He must rebuild the team and make it even stronger. However, he also did not deny that this would not be easy for him or Man United.
Ten Hag didn't build Man United squad properly, that's why he always has many homework. Just take a look the defense line of Man United, it looks very messy. I don't understand why Ten Hag has no ability to choose proper defenders for Man United. If he wants Man United be a stronger team, he must be aware that Man United needs better defenders. It is also strange that he keeps Maguire but never try to keep Varane.

Another problem of Ten Hag is he can't make a good relationship among the players. I don't understand why he always has a problem with few players. I think he is too egoistic in deciding anything without thinking about the players. This should be corrected by Ten Hag, he must have good relationship with all players.

Rebuilding Manchester United is not the same as building a new car, the board of directors after Ferguson's era seems to know nothing about building a football club
United is washed off and is lagging in so many things that is why United is like a small club.
At least the new owner (Sir Jim Ratcliffe) has found the problem and he said, The coach isn’t the central issue at Manchester United.
And I hope he's right

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1345 on: June 22, 2024, 01:41:49 PM »
Rebuilding Manchester United is not the same as building a new car, the board of directors after Ferguson's era seems to know nothing about building a football club
United is washed off and is lagging in so many things that is why United is like a small club.
At least the new owner (Sir Jim Ratcliffe) has found the problem and he said, The coach isn’t the central issue at Manchester United.
And I hope he's right
They lose their identity over the years, the foundations built in the beginning seem to mean nothing to them. And now Ferguson has to see the team he brought to glory in a difficult situation like this.

I am very sure that they (especially the supporters) want to see Ferguson reborn and help them to get out of this difficult time. However, this is a very difficult thing, they have to be really serious about building this team.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1346 on: June 22, 2024, 04:16:31 PM »
Rebuilding Manchester United is not the same as building a new car, the board of directors after Ferguson's era seems to know nothing about building a football club
United is washed off and is lagging in so many things that is why United is like a small club.
At least the new owner (Sir Jim Ratcliffe) has found the problem and he said, The coach isn’t the central issue at Manchester United.
And I hope he's right
They lose their identity over the years, the foundations built in the beginning seem to mean nothing to them. And now Ferguson has to see the team he brought to glory in a difficult situation like this.

I am very sure that they (especially the supporters) want to see Ferguson reborn and help them to get out of this difficult time. However, this is a very difficult thing, they have to be really serious about building this team.

Proper planning has to be done within the club and Sir Jim Ratcliffe as the new owner has quite a lot of work to do but I'm sure he understands what needs to be done.
Last season United embarrassed the fans, and this season I hope good things will happen but I don't expect much before seeing if United will make a sensible transfer, United needs new players with high performance to move forward next season.


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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1347 on: June 22, 2024, 08:53:24 PM »
Another problem of Ten Hag is he can't make a good relationship among the players. I don't understand why he always has a problem with few players. I think he is too egoistic in deciding anything without thinking about the players. This should be corrected by Ten Hag, he must have good relationship with all players.
Main problem for Erik ten Hag how to build good communication with his players, in this season got internal conflict with Jadon Sancho and make him loss regular position with Manchester United until loan him to Dortmund. Last two season, ten Hag had problem with Cristiano Ronaldo until sell him to Saudi Arabia club Al Nassr.
Erik ten Hag need learned more from other manager how well communicate with their players and make comfortable for every players, but next season Erik ten Hag must bring Manchester United back to top fourth standings place and keep in the race for Premier League winning trophy.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1348 on: June 22, 2024, 11:50:27 PM »
Ten Hag has a lot of homework at Man United even though previously he was also the new United coach. And he has to learn a lot from various mistakes in the past at this club. Yes, because Man United is this complicated, that's why Ten Hag has to work extra hard. He must rebuild the team and make it even stronger. However, he also did not deny that this would not be easy for him or Man United.
Ten Hag didn't build Man United squad properly, that's why he always has many homework. Just take a look the defense line of Man United, it looks very messy. I don't understand why Ten Hag has no ability to choose proper defenders for Man United. If he wants Man United be a stronger team, he must be aware that Man United needs better defenders. It is also strange that he keeps Maguire but never try to keep Varane.

Another problem of Ten Hag is he can't make a good relationship among the players. I don't understand why he always has a problem with few players. I think he is too egoistic in deciding anything without thinking about the players. This should be corrected by Ten Hag, he must have good relationship with all players.

Rebuilding Manchester United is not the same as building a new car, the board of directors after Ferguson's era seems to know nothing about building a football club
United is washed off and is lagging in so many things that is why United is like a small club.
At least the new owner (Sir Jim Ratcliffe) has found the problem and he said, The coach isn’t the central issue at Manchester United.
And I hope he's right
This means that in the next season, Ten Hag really has a lot to fix and this won't be easy at all. especially if he is still that stubborn with his payers and doesn't want to listen to other people. So it won't change much. Oh yes, in fact, there is indeed very solid cooperation not only from the coach but also from the players, all in all and also from the management.

This season Man United has entrusted Man United back to Ten Hag. There must have been a lot of previous knowledge of what Ten Hag would and should do. And if it doesn't go according to what has been said, it could be that Man United will also think again in the following seasons.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1349 on: June 23, 2024, 01:43:09 PM »
They lose their identity over the years, the foundations built in the beginning seem to mean nothing to them. And now Ferguson has to see the team he brought to glory in a difficult situation like this.

I am very sure that they (especially the supporters) want to see Ferguson reborn and help them to get out of this difficult time. However, this is a very difficult thing, they have to be really serious about building this team.

Proper planning has to be done within the club and Sir Jim Ratcliffe as the new owner has quite a lot of work to do but I'm sure he understands what needs to be done.
Last season United embarrassed the fans, and this season I hope good things will happen but I don't expect much before seeing if United will make a sensible transfer, United needs new players with high performance to move forward next season.
Actually, the hope for them now is not to see them become champions or achieve a brilliant achievement, but many people want to see the developments they will make.

In my opinion, if they can show a good and promising game, that will be enough for them at least for now. Because if we are targeting something big, we also have to be realistic by looking at what Manchester United has experienced recently. What is important now is that they must be able to show a positive process.

 

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