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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1365 on: June 27, 2024, 10:10:50 AM »
Yeah right. And things will become more unpredictable. Because many clubs will have new coaches next season. So a team can immediately change into a stronger club or conversely a club can immediately fall to its worst performance if the new coach is not as good as expected. Maybe we should wait some time until the season starts before making any further judgments. But speculating about their performance is still interesting. especially when a team makes a lot of changes in a squad.
We'll see what they can do with their new coach and even the team that is still with their old coach, whether they will be able to show improvement or not. The reason is that every season there will definitely be changes in performance, either for the better or for the decline.

At the start of the season I don't think we can judge too quickly, because I think we need at least 3 or 5 appearances or even more to see how a team's playing pattern is.
Even at the start of the season we have to be more careful in placing bets. Because there are always more matches that are difficult to predict. And more surprises also occurred at the start of the season. Because some clubs are still in the process of adapting and things are not stable at the start. but yeah after a few games everything will start to become clearer. Which team is the favorite or not will begin to become apparent.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1366 on: June 27, 2024, 01:59:34 PM »
We'll see what they can do with their new coach and even the team that is still with their old coach, whether they will be able to show improvement or not. The reason is that every season there will definitely be changes in performance, either for the better or for the decline.

At the start of the season I don't think we can judge too quickly, because I think we need at least 3 or 5 appearances or even more to see how a team's playing pattern is.
Even at the start of the season we have to be more careful in placing bets. Because there are always more matches that are difficult to predict. And more surprises also occurred at the start of the season. Because some clubs are still in the process of adapting and things are not stable at the start. but yeah after a few games everything will start to become clearer. Which team is the favorite or not will begin to become apparent.
Regarding betting, I usually avoid betting at the start of the season, especially if it is the first match, the risk is very big in my opinion, because we don't know how they will play.

Even though we might be able to see the game in pre-season matches, in my opinion that cannot be a benchmark, because in pre-season usually teams just want to see how deep their squad is or you could say they are not playing with their best strategy.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1367 on: June 27, 2024, 11:59:10 PM »
City might have the most players in EURO but their fans shouldn't be too worried about it. That team has already shown before that they could recover from a bad start to the season due to players injuries and still win the league at the end. If I remember correctly, that was 2 seasons ago when they first beat Arsenal to the title.
The thing that clubs often worry about about their players competing in the Euros or other countries' matches is injury. Yes, because as usual, it will be very tough compared to usual. And despite experience, there are many players who suffer injuries while competing for their national team. And this is definitely a concern for all clubs, one of which is Man City.

But on the other hand, it will still happen. And it is the players themselves who can handle the conditions on the field. Avoiding injury is of utmost priority. outside of what will actually happen in the field.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1368 on: June 28, 2024, 04:53:59 PM »
City might have the most players in EURO but their fans shouldn't be too worried about it. That team has already shown before that they could recover from a bad start to the season due to players injuries and still win the league at the end. If I remember correctly, that was 2 seasons ago when they first beat Arsenal to the title.
The thing that clubs often worry about about their players competing in the Euros or other countries' matches is injury. Yes, because as usual, it will be very tough compared to usual. And despite experience, there are many players who suffer injuries while competing for their national team. And this is definitely a concern for all clubs, one of which is Man City.

But on the other hand, it will still happen. And it is the players themselves who can handle the conditions on the field. Avoiding injury is of utmost priority. outside of what will actually happen in the field.
Injuries are something that a team worries about when the players they have play for their country, especially if they are pressed for time when the league is about to start or the league is in progress. The reason is that it would be a loss for them if their players came home injured.

However, I hope that all the players will return to their respective teams in very good condition, so that they can immediately defend their team without the slightest problem.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1369 on: June 28, 2024, 06:57:11 PM »
Even at the start of the season we have to be more careful in placing bets. Because there are always more matches that are difficult to predict. And more surprises also occurred at the start of the season. Because some clubs are still in the process of adapting and things are not stable at the start. but yeah after a few games everything will start to become clearer. Which team is the favorite or not will begin to become apparent.
Usually at the early season difficult for predicting with the winner team, can't guarantee as the top teams such as Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool will easily for winning their early Premier League matches. I remember with Manchester City get difficulty consistent performance on the early season but few matches later success return back to the winning performance.
Be careful when choosing the favorite winning team on the early premier league match begin, have new manager need time for effective with their tactician and make huge rotation at the early match begin.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1370 on: June 28, 2024, 07:51:58 PM »
City might have the most players in EURO but their fans shouldn't be too worried about it. That team has already shown before that they could recover from a bad start to the season due to players injuries and still win the league at the end. If I remember correctly, that was 2 seasons ago when they first beat Arsenal to the title.
The thing that clubs often worry about about their players competing in the Euros or other countries' matches is injury. Yes, because as usual, it will be very tough compared to usual. And despite experience, there are many players who suffer injuries while competing for their national team. And this is definitely a concern for all clubs, one of which is Man City.

But on the other hand, it will still happen. And it is the players themselves who can handle the conditions on the field. Avoiding injury is of utmost priority. outside of what will actually happen in the field.

Yep, avoiding injury is the priority. But sometimes things cannot be avoided, such as what happened to Anthony Gordon who suffered a chin injury after falling from his bicycle while training with his teammates at Euro 2024.
Not only that, Kieran Trippier reportedly suffered an injury and even played while enduring pain when England against Serbia and Denmark.
This is certainly bad news for New Castle, but of the 14 City players competing at EURO 2024, no one has suffered an injury.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1371 on: June 28, 2024, 07:58:58 PM »
Regarding betting, I usually avoid betting at the start of the season, especially if it is the first match, the risk is very big in my opinion, because we don't know how they will play.

Even though we might be able to see the game in pre-season matches, in my opinion that cannot be a benchmark, because in pre-season usually teams just want to see how deep their squad is or you could say they are not playing with their best strategy.

Start of the season should strictly be for observation because this time is when you will see teams score a lot and they looks too motivated because the beginning of the season always looks so enticing. If you want to see the real games of the season, it's after a month or 5th weeks of the season you will see teams that start well begin to play rubbish.

Like last season, when Pochettino was given the new role of coach for Chelsea, the team started well but as the season progress, they started falling down and down until they later stablize in the middle of the table and then later upgrade to 6th place, I can only imagine people that were including them on their games when they were declining and losing match when people have hope on them.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1372 on: June 28, 2024, 09:12:29 PM »
Regarding betting, I usually avoid betting at the start of the season, especially if it is the first match, the risk is very big in my opinion, because we don't know how they will play.

Even though we might be able to see the game in pre-season matches, in my opinion that cannot be a benchmark, because in pre-season usually teams just want to see how deep their squad is or you could say they are not playing with their best strategy.

Start of the season should strictly be for observation because this time is when you will see teams score a lot and they looks too motivated because the beginning of the season always looks so enticing. If you want to see the real games of the season, it's after a month or 5th weeks of the season you will see teams that start well begin to play rubbish.

Like last season, when Pochettino was given the new role of coach for Chelsea, the team started well but as the season progress, they started falling down and down until they later stablize in the middle of the table and then later upgrade to 6th place, I can only imagine people that were including them on their games when they were declining and losing match when people have hope on them.
Well, that's what I mean when the team hasn't shown their true identity, so it poses a very big risk when we bet on it and even a small team can do something very good at the start of the season.

After the 3rd, 4th, 5th match and so on, they start to show the real them or they have found their form. There we can see an opportunity that can be used to bet on that match.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1373 on: June 28, 2024, 09:17:04 PM »
Even though we might be able to see the game in pre-season matches, in my opinion that cannot be a benchmark, because in pre-season usually teams just want to see how deep their squad is or you could say they are not playing with their best strategy.
Smart gamblers know that it is not proper to gamble every time, to reduce the chances of loss. The beginning of the citizen should be a time to observe the teams and know which teams will be doing well and which team look likely to struggle except you are sure of a teams performance entering the season from their pre season performance, but that is not always accurate. A gambler should not gamble all the time and always.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1374 on: June 29, 2024, 11:33:39 PM »
Even though we might be able to see the game in pre-season matches, in my opinion that cannot be a benchmark, because in pre-season usually teams just want to see how deep their squad is or you could say they are not playing with their best strategy.
Smart gamblers know that it is not proper to gamble every time, to reduce the chances of loss. The beginning of the citizen should be a time to observe the teams and know which teams will be doing well and which team look likely to struggle except you are sure of a teams performance entering the season from their pre season performance, but that is not always accurate. A gambler should not gamble all the time and always.
Indeed.
And, a gambler should also separate himself from being a fan of a particular club for his own personal benefit. What this means is that when we really want to bet on a club that we really idolize, but it turns out that the opponent is much stronger, then shouldn't we be more rational by betting on the other side, right? Instead of forcing yourself, the chance of winning is very small. Ha ha ha
There are several terms that must be considered in betting. Not only about as a fan but it is more to how to gain more profits, right?


Finally,  the Blues got Omari Kellyman for £19m. This young attacking midfielder from Aston Villa has attracted Chelsea's attention for a long time. And finally they have done the deal.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1375 on: June 29, 2024, 11:59:25 PM »
The thing that clubs often worry about about their players competing in the Euros or other countries' matches is injury. Yes, because as usual, it will be very tough compared to usual. And despite experience, there are many players who suffer injuries while competing for their national team. And this is definitely a concern for all clubs, one of which is Man City.
Injuries are something that a team worries about when the players they have play for their country, especially if they are pressed for time when the league is about to start or the league is in progress. The reason is that it would be a loss for them if their players came home injured.

However, I hope that all the players will return to their respective teams in very good condition, so that they can immediately defend their team without the slightest problem.
Yes, the hope for the clubs is that their players can return to the clubs in a healthy condition without any injury. This concern is certainly very relevant because after all, players with certain injuries can really affect their performance, not to mention their absence in some matches. This probably happens very often. And the hope is that this doesn't happen again.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1376 on: June 30, 2024, 01:27:41 PM »
Even though we might be able to see the game in pre-season matches, in my opinion that cannot be a benchmark, because in pre-season usually teams just want to see how deep their squad is or you could say they are not playing with their best strategy.
Smart gamblers know that it is not proper to gamble every time, to reduce the chances of loss. The beginning of the citizen should be a time to observe the teams and know which teams will be doing well and which team look likely to struggle except you are sure of a teams performance entering the season from their pre season performance, but that is not always accurate. A gambler should not gamble all the time and always.
That's right, they have to know when they know to place a bet and when not to bet. For example, in pre-season matches, there are many betting options available, but we know for ourselves how they play in pre-season matches.

Even though the teams competing are very strong teams and weak teams, in pre-season matches they do not show their true identity, because they only want to measure the depth of the squad and the strength they have.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1377 on: June 30, 2024, 06:21:00 PM »

Finally,  the Blues got Omari Kellyman for £19m. This young attacking midfielder from Aston Villa has attracted Chelsea's attention for a long time. And finally they have done the deal.

Chelsea is the best in every transfer window  but I’ve never seen a team sign so many wonder kids in such a short space of time
Anselmino, Estêvão, Kendry Páez, Marc Guiu, and now Omari Kellyman.
Will all these lads get a chance to develop or play in the first team even if a few minutes?

Omari Kellyman is an attacking midfielder, I guess he plays upfront as well, but is he ready to compete with Cole Palmer and Christopher Nkunku in the Attacking Midfielder position?

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1378 on: June 30, 2024, 08:44:39 PM »
That's right, they have to know when they know to place a bet and when not to bet. For example, in pre-season matches, there are many betting options available, but we know for ourselves how they play in pre-season matches.

Even though the teams competing are very strong teams and weak teams, in pre-season matches they do not show their true identity, because they only want to measure the depth of the squad and the strength they have.
Pre season matches all team not higher intention and get many rotation players, the tactician try some young players has potential get promotion for next season and I don't sure its worth bet with pre season matches.

Seems not any Premier League teams have pre season matches, most of them waiting until Euro 2024 over because have many players get appearance with their national teams. Little disappointed with all pre season matches of Premier League team only take participants in United State and less make pre season matches in Asian exactly in my country Indonesia.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1379 on: July 02, 2024, 02:37:48 PM »
Finally,  the Blues got Omari Kellyman for £19m. This young attacking midfielder from Aston Villa has attracted Chelsea's attention for a long time. And finally they have done the deal.
Chelsea is the best in every transfer window  but I’ve never seen a team sign so many wonder kids in such a short space of time
Anselmino, Estêvão, Kendry Páez, Marc Guiu, and now Omari Kellyman.
This season it seems like Chelsea is focusing more on young players. They are targeting a lot of players, yes, as usual. However, we cannot yet confirm whether this transfer will really be successful in improving their squad or not, as happened last season. Hopefully it doesn't happen again.

Will all these lads get a chance to develop or play in the first team even if a few minutes?
If so, it will depend on how Enzo Maresca sets up these players. but in my opinion, at such a young age, they will not immediately become the first team squad. I don't know if they just give a few minutes as playing hours as experience. Moreover, Omari, Chelsea still has 2 attacking midfielders who were also quite good players last season, such as Cole Palmer, and there is also Christopher Nkunku. As for Estevao and Kendry Paez, they will only join when they turn 18 next season.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13558623/Chelsea-officially-confirm-transfer-agreement-Estevao-Willian-28m-Brazilian-latest-wonderkid-sign-Blues-takes-Todd-Boehlys-spending-teenage-players-250-MILLION.html

 

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