[Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread

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That's right, they have to know when they know to place a bet and when not to bet. For example, in pre-season matches, there are many betting options available, but we know for ourselves how they play in pre-season matches.

Even though the teams competing are very strong teams and weak teams, in pre-season matches they do not show their true identity, because they only want to measure the depth of the squad and the strength they have.

Pre season matches all team not higher intention and get many rotation players, the tactician try some young players has potential get promotion for next season and I don't sure its worth bet with pre season matches.

Seems not any Premier League teams have pre season matches, most of them waiting until Euro 2024 over because have many players get appearance with their national teams. Little disappointed with all pre season matches of Premier League team only take participants in United State and less make pre season matches in Asian exactly in my country Indonesia.

I haven't followed too much about their pre-season matches, because currently I am being treated to EURO and also the Copa America. My attention is more focused there.

Yes, many players have to defend their country in this event, so the teams will also be able to gather after the competition is finished. Several teams also seem to be more relaxed in this transfer market because maybe they are also waiting for their players to return from their countries.

[JoyMarsha]

That's right, they have to know when they know to place a bet and when not to bet. For example, in pre-season matches, there are many betting options available, but we know for ourselves how they play in pre-season matches.

Even though the teams competing are very strong teams and weak teams, in pre-season matches they do not show their true identity, because they only want to measure the depth of the squad and the strength they have.

Pre season matches all team not higher intention and get many rotation players, the tactician try some young players has potential get promotion for next season and I don't sure its worth bet with pre season matches.

Seems not any Premier League teams have pre season matches, most of them waiting until Euro 2024 over because have many players get appearance with their national teams. Little disappointed with all pre season matches of Premier League team only take participants in United State and less make pre season matches in Asian exactly in my country Indonesia.

I doubt if there are any Premier League preseason matches at this time Euro League match and Copa America League matches are in play. If there's, I don't know because my focus is on the current Euro and Copa America League matches.

When both league matches are over in few weeks, the Premier League matches will kick-start. The pressure and tension to perform better to win matches will return to the pitch. Can't wait for that to start happening soon

[bounceback]

I doubt if there are any Premier League preseason matches at this time Euro League match and Copa America League matches are in play. If there's, I don't know because my focus is on the current Euro and Copa America League matches.

When both league matches are over in few weeks, the Premier League matches will kick-start. The pressure and tension to perform better to win matches will return to the pitch. Can't wait for that to start happening soon

Seems not any pre season matches for all Premier League team still have Euro 2024 matches and prefer waiting this tournament over.
First pre season matched of one premier league team Chelsea begin on 25 July and waiting over with Euro 2024 before they can focus with all their players back to the teams.

Seems pre season matches not be priority for manager and they want make huge rotation by promote young players, I think all teams premier league priority giving minutes playing for the young players.

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I doubt if there are any Premier League preseason matches at this time Euro League match and Copa America League matches are in play. If there's, I don't know because my focus is on the current Euro and Copa America League matches.

When both league matches are over in few weeks, the Premier League matches will kick-start. The pressure and tension to perform better to win matches will return to the pitch. Can't wait for that to start happening soon

I think pre-season matches can be good because they can understand what the depth of their squad is like by experimenting and making rotations in the line-up they will field.

but now they are still busy with competitions for their country. If it's possible, then they might arrange a schedule, but if they don't think it's possible, then maybe they won't do a preseason.

This could be something they would have to consider carefully and their choice would probably be to run an internal match instead.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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Yam, you could say that, it's quite a big gamble for Man United. Because on the one hand, they have to stay with Ten Hag, who is often controversial. And on the other hand, they have no other best alternative. But now is the time for that again.

Currently, Man United is targeting several players who are considered talented and good for them.

Yeah, I guess that's the best reason for the decision. One draw back from that is the players that they could be buying now for millions will not be favored by the next manager the following season. Rebuilding (player changes) due to changes in leadership is costly too.

Ten Hag has a lot of homework at Man United even though previously he was also the new United coach. And he has to learn a lot from various mistakes in the past at this club. Yes, because Man United is this complicated, that's why Ten Hag has to work extra hard. He must rebuild the team and make it even stronger. However, he also did not deny that this would not be easy for him or Man United.

I sincerely respect what everyone in the MU is saying about Ten Hag, but my honest question is why do they keep supporting Ten Hag if they know he is not going to do anything good? He has been in the team for 3 seasons and has not achieved anything, well, an FA Cup, which is not that relevant, but there are teams where the manager has done everything wrong in a season or half a season and sometimes they leave because they know they are going to see nothing but failure, so this is something I don't see the point of, I say this from the point of view of a player, as a fan and as anyone who can make a logical analysis.

I agree with you that Eric Ten Hag is not suppose to be Manchester united manager after his poor performance last season, but one thing that makes everyone overlook at that is because he was able to win FA Cup and qualified for Europa next season. It isn't it like a magic that a very weak team was able to win the champions of England in a final. This was why the management of Manchester united made a rethink of not firing him. It was the last match of the season for Manchester united and the players put in their best performance in that season and won the match. That shows maybe he has understood some mistakes he was making in the past.

Well yes, only here in the club they apply that a good action erases a history of very bad actions, in part it doesn't seem bad to me, it seems good to me because we are human, we make mistakes and we shouldn't be so inhuman when we see that it's a job, but really we should get used to the fact that all the champions leave because they beat the best in England, because this team is very big, I remember how more than 20 years ago this team was scary, but now it's not like that, and it's not because of bad players, because they have very good players, but now things are like that, I just hope that they finally improve, because that coach did not have the slightest humanity with some players who have left that club, and all thanks to him.

[salad daging]

I doubt if there are any Premier League preseason matches at this time Euro League match and Copa America League matches are in play. If there's, I don't know because my focus is on the current Euro and Copa America League matches.

When both league matches are over in few weeks, the Premier League matches will kick-start. The pressure and tension to perform better to win matches will return to the pitch. Can't wait for that to start happening soon

Seems not any pre season matches for all Premier League team still have Euro 2024 matches and prefer waiting this tournament over.
First pre season matched of one premier league team Chelsea begin on 25 July and waiting over with Euro 2024 before they can focus with all their players back to the teams.

Seems pre season matches not be priority for manager and they want make huge rotation by promote young players, I think all teams premier league priority giving minutes playing for the young players.

So after the EURO is over Chelsea will have their pre-season matches? Are the players not exhausted after being in the EURO competition when after that players just want a vacation after the league break.

Because I didn't read any news about pre-season just focus on the EURO tournament now because this match is now getting hotter after the quarterfinals.
I'm not sure if some of the big teams will have pre-season matches.

[alltalk]

This season it seems like Chelsea is focusing more on young players. They are targeting a lot of players, yes, as usual. However, we cannot yet confirm whether this transfer will really be successful in improving their squad or not, as happened last season. Hopefully it doesn't happen again.

Chelsea already begins to build their squad with young players since the previous season. I think Chelsea wants to prepare their squad for a long term. They don't only expect to get an instant result on their performance but they want to have a strong squad in the next few years. I think it is a good idea although it doesn't guarantee Chelsea to be better in the next few years. Young player is good but Chelsea also need to have few old players who have good experience. This is because young players are sometimes not ready with their mentality, many of them are not stable enough in their emotion. There should be some old players who can lead them in the field.

[sampoerna]

Chelsea already begins to build their squad with young players since the previous season. I think Chelsea wants to prepare their squad for a long term.

I was a little surprised when I saw Cheslea's purchases this season, because most of them were young players, some of them even very young players. The club wants to build a long-term club, in fact the young players on average get a 5 year contract with an extension option.
We see there are:

• Omari Kellyman - Attacking Midfield (18YO)
• Marc Guiu - Centre-Forward (18YO)
• Estêvão - Right Winger (still 17 years old, and will only join Chelsea next season)
• Kendry Páez - Attacking Midfield (still 17 years old, and will only join Chelsea next season)

But apart from that, Chelsea has obtained:

• Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall (Central Midfield)
• Tosin Adarabioyo (Centre-Back)

and they are still watching others.

Sources, taken from:
https://www.transfermarkt.com/fc-chelsea/transfers/verein/631/saison_id/2024

It's just that with this, do they really become stronger again? With their new coach, Marezca? Lets see. Hopefully this won't disappoint.

[Uruhara]

Chelsea already begins to build their squad with young players since the previous season. I think Chelsea wants to prepare their squad for a long term.

I was a little surprised when I saw Cheslea's purchases this season, because most of them were young players, some of them even very young players. The club wants to build a long-term club, in fact the young players on average get a 5 year contract with an extension option.
We see there are:

• Omari Kellyman - Attacking Midfield (18YO)
• Marc Guiu - Centre-Forward (18YO)
• Estêvão - Right Winger (still 17 years old, and will only join Chelsea next season)
• Kendry Páez - Attacking Midfield (still 17 years old, and will only join Chelsea next season)

But apart from that, Chelsea has obtained:

• Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall (Central Midfield)
• Tosin Adarabioyo (Centre-Back)

and they are still watching others.

Sources, taken from:
https://www.transfermarkt.com/fc-chelsea/transfers/verein/631/saison_id/2024

It's just that with this, do they really become stronger again? With their new coach, Marezca? Lets see. Hopefully this won't disappoint.

I currently see that Chelsea only wants to develop the talents of the young players they bring to the club to become football stars who could be worth a lot of money one day. We know who Todd is. Yes, he is a reliable businessman. And when he becomes Chelsea owner then we will definitely have to understand where this is all heading. But in this transfer market, Chelsea has also succeeded in bringing in several potential young players. And maybe Chelsea won't immediately get good results in their first season with their new coach. but I also have hope that Chelsea can indeed get better in the long term. and it seems like the formation of the squad at Chelsea is more intended for the long term. This can all be seen from the number of young players currently at the club.

[ajiz138]

I currently see that Chelsea only wants to develop the talents of the young players they bring to the club to become football stars who could be worth a lot of money one day. We know who Todd is. Yes, he is a reliable businessman. And when he becomes Chelsea owner then we will definitely have to understand where this is all heading. But in this transfer market, Chelsea has also succeeded in bringing in several potential young players. And maybe Chelsea won't immediately get good results in their first season with their new coach. but I also have hope that Chelsea can indeed get better in the long term. and it seems like the formation of the squad at Chelsea is more intended for the long term. This can all be seen from the number of young players currently at the club.

If that is their goal, I fully support it, because even if they cannot achieve an achievement, at least they are building a foundation for their future. Yes, even though it is disappointing, there are goals they can achieve.

The problem is whether their current coach can continue what the previous coach started? Usually this is also a problem in itself, because the new coach could become an obstacle to what they are doing.

[Agbe]

This season it seems like Chelsea is focusing more on young players. They are targeting a lot of players, yes, as usual. However, we cannot yet confirm whether this transfer will really be successful in improving their squad or not, as happened last season. Hopefully it doesn't happen again.

Chelsea already begins to build their squad with young players since the previous season. I think Chelsea wants to prepare their squad for a long term. They don't only expect to get an instant result on their performance but they want to have a strong squad in the next few years. I think it is a good idea although it doesn't guarantee Chelsea to be better in the next few years. Young player is good but Chelsea also need to have few old players who have good experience. This is because young players are sometimes not ready with their mentality, many of them are not stable enough in their emotion. There should be some old players who can lead them in the field.

They have to because their squad for many years have weak and it was only in the last season that they tried small. But we don't know what they will play this season. So if they are preparing with good young players then it is a good recommendation and we pray that they should do well this time. When young players are developed well then they can do well more than the old ones because they body is still lite and they can run faster than the old players. But the only they need is a good Coach to train them.

[vegasus]

This season it seems like Chelsea is focusing more on young players. They are targeting a lot of players, yes, as usual. However, we cannot yet confirm whether this transfer will really be successful in improving their squad or not, as happened last season. Hopefully it doesn't happen again.

Chelsea already begins to build their squad with young players since the previous season. I think Chelsea wants to prepare their squad for a long term. They don't only expect to get an instant result on their performance but they want to have a strong squad in the next few years. I think it is a good idea although it doesn't guarantee Chelsea to be better in the next few years.

Yes, looking at some of the young players they bought this time, Chelsea's target is also long term too. Yes, of course this season they also have a target for Marezca, at least they have to get into the UCL qualifiers. In the last 2 seasons, Chelsea failed to qualify for the UCL and this is very bad. Even though they are top clubs, that has almost become history in the last 2 seasons. That's why, no matter what, Marezc must make Chelsea start really strong from the start. Moreover, if they really get Osimhen, they will definitely be much stronger than last season.

[Uruhara]

I currently see that Chelsea only wants to develop the talents of the young players they bring to the club to become football stars who could be worth a lot of money one day. We know who Todd is. Yes, he is a reliable businessman. And when he becomes Chelsea owner then we will definitely have to understand where this is all heading. But in this transfer market, Chelsea has also succeeded in bringing in several potential young players. And maybe Chelsea won't immediately get good results in their first season with their new coach. but I also have hope that Chelsea can indeed get better in the long term. and it seems like the formation of the squad at Chelsea is more intended for the long term. This can all be seen from the number of young players currently at the club.

If that is their goal, I fully support it, because even if they cannot achieve an achievement, at least they are building a foundation for their future. Yes, even though it is disappointing, there are goals they can achieve.

The problem is whether their current coach can continue what the previous coach started? Usually this is also a problem in itself, because the new coach could become an obstacle to what they are doing.

Well, this is one of the problems that still needs to be questioned. Because continuing the work of the previous coach will certainly not be easy. unless the new coach sees and understands Pochettino's goals at Chelsea last season. I hope Enzo can do well. because it's quite boring to see Chelsea continue to experience things that are not so good in the last two seasons. I lost quite a lot when betting on them. And I hope that doesn't happen again in the next season. Bringing in young players is always a high risk. But when the goal is achieved by successfully maximizing the potential of these young players, the Chelsea club will produce many young star players who are certainly quite expensive. And that will bring huge profits to the club.

[ajiz138]

If that is their goal, I fully support it, because even if they cannot achieve an achievement, at least they are building a foundation for their future. Yes, even though it is disappointing, there are goals they can achieve.

The problem is whether their current coach can continue what the previous coach started? Usually this is also a problem in itself, because the new coach could become an obstacle to what they are doing.

Well, this is one of the problems that still needs to be questioned. Because continuing the work of the previous coach will certainly not be easy. unless the new coach sees and understands Pochettino's goals at Chelsea last season. I hope Enzo can do well. because it's quite boring to see Chelsea continue to experience things that are not so good in the last two seasons. I lost quite a lot when betting on them. And I hope that doesn't happen again in the next season. Bringing in young players is always a high risk. But when the goal is achieved by successfully maximizing the potential of these young players, the Chelsea club will produce many young star players who are certainly quite expensive. And that will bring huge profits to the club.

Well, that's what I mean, because when they want to build a foundation but at the same time they are trying to change coaches, then that will mean that the previous foundation might fall apart again and they have to start from the bottom again, and so on.

If they are serious about what they want to do, then they can give the coach more time, but at the risk that in some time they may not get a title.

[Gurujebs]

I currently see that Chelsea only wants to develop the talents of the young players they bring to the club to become football stars who could be worth a lot of money one day. We know who Todd is. Yes, he is a reliable businessman. And when he becomes Chelsea owner then we will definitely have to understand where this is all heading. But in this transfer market, Chelsea has also succeeded in bringing in several potential young players. And maybe Chelsea won't immediately get good results in their first season with their new coach. but I also have hope that Chelsea can indeed get better in the long term. and it seems like the formation of the squad at Chelsea is more intended for the long term. This can all be seen from the number of young players currently at the club.

Enzo Maresca has just one job and is either he win the Premier League next season or make Chelsea top among the top 4 in the table and my advice is that he should try and do what Arteta is doing to Arsenal. People think Arsenal don't know what they are doing anytime they sign young players but Arteta almost snatched the trophy from Guardiola in the last two seasons.

Maresca should screen Chelsea players, where there is need to sell some, he should not even think twice and sell them especially the ones thatbade due to contract expiration and work with new ones because the old ones hasn't been able to win any trophy for Todd Boehly since he became the CEO of Chelsea football.