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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1395 on: July 05, 2024, 11:42:15 PM »
I currently see that Chelsea only wants to develop the talents of the young players they bring to the club to become football stars who could be worth a lot of money one day. We know who Todd is. Yes, he is a reliable businessman. And when he becomes Chelsea owner then we will definitely have to understand where this is all heading. But in this transfer market, Chelsea has also succeeded in bringing in several potential young players. And maybe Chelsea won't immediately get good results in their first season with their new coach. but I also have hope that Chelsea can indeed get better in the long term. and it seems like the formation of the squad at Chelsea is more intended for the long term. This can all be seen from the number of young players currently at the club.

Enzo Maresca has just one job and is either he win the Premier League next season or make Chelsea top among the top 4 in the table and my advice is that he should try and do what Arteta is doing to Arsenal. People think Arsenal don't know what they are doing anytime they sign young players but Arteta almost snatched the trophy from Guardiola in the last two seasons.

Maresca should screen Chelsea players, where there is need to sell some, he should not even think twice and sell them especially the ones thatbade due to contract expiration and work with new ones because the old ones hasn't been able to win any trophy for Todd Boehly since he became the CEO of Chelsea football.

Young players are good for the future but without balanced recruitment, the tens of millions invested in these players will not serve Chelsea but only the owners' interests.
World-class clubs such as City, Madrid, Bayern, and others target world-class players.
The best manager, the best players, and the best coaching staff, that's the only way to stay at the top.
But currently, Chelsea is surrounded by mediocre people, from mediocre managers and staff to mediocre players.
Chelsea is now nothing more than a financial asset, it's not like a Big Club in the Premier League.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1396 on: July 06, 2024, 03:06:15 PM »
Manchester United is a team that is still being discussed a lot after it was confirmed that they would still be with Erik Ten Hag next season, even though in terms of play under the direction of Erik Ten Hag they are not doing anything good.

In the next season, I hope that Erik Ten Hag can be even better in bringing Manchester United to show a good game, so that they can compete at least for a ticket to go to the Champions League.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1397 on: July 06, 2024, 03:23:38 PM »
Manchester United is a team that is still being discussed a lot after it was confirmed that they would still be with Erik Ten Hag next season, even though in terms of play under the direction of Erik Ten Hag they are not doing anything good.

In the next season, I hope that Erik Ten Hag can be even better in bringing Manchester United to show a good game, so that they can compete at least for a ticket to go to the Champions League.
It just shows you the influence of the club had marked on fans. Their popularity goes beyond the players and the managers that's why you often see them discussed in forums and social media. It's not just ETH but also Maguire who is still a favorite when fans talks about own goals and other defending blunders.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1398 on: July 06, 2024, 11:43:18 PM »
But currently, Chelsea is surrounded by mediocre people, from mediocre managers and staff to mediocre players.
Chelsea is now nothing more than a financial asset, it's not like a Big Club in the Premier League.
For now, yes. Of Chelsea's signing choices, they are all mediacore players, even the coach. That's why when you say everything at Chelsea is mediacore at the moment. I don't know if this is related to finances or just strategy. This is Chelsea's decision and no one has been as top as that. Unless Osimhen can really join Chelsea, there is at least 1 who can actually be considered the top-player so far.

However, it seems that the long term is Chelsea's target, and they may only target getting into the UCL for this season from among their selection of players, and also their coach. However, even in the long term, this is not a guarantee. Not all young players signing can be as successful as Bellingham at Real Madrid. That's different, so we'll see how Chelsea can make young players really develop and optimize their talents at the club. And how mediacore players can do optimally to the club, too.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1399 on: July 07, 2024, 03:10:10 PM »
Manchester United is a team that is still being discussed a lot after it was confirmed that they would still be with Erik Ten Hag next season, even though in terms of play under the direction of Erik Ten Hag they are not doing anything good.

In the next season, I hope that Erik Ten Hag can be even better in bringing Manchester United to show a good game, so that they can compete at least for a ticket to go to the Champions League.
It just shows you the influence of the club had marked on fans. Their popularity goes beyond the players and the managers that's why you often see them discussed in forums and social media. It's not just ETH but also Maguire who is still a favorite when fans talks about own goals and other defending blunders.
And their goalkeeper Onana was criticized for his unsatisfactory performance and many blunders. The basic mistakes that many players still make mean that they end up receiving a lot of criticism and even insults on social media.

After the departure of Alex Ferguson, for some reason the players who were brought in actually had to decline when playing for Manchester United. And I can say they played below their best.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1400 on: July 07, 2024, 06:45:15 PM »
I currently see that Chelsea only wants to develop the talents of the young players they bring to the club to become football stars who could be worth a lot of money one day. We know who Todd is. Yes, he is a reliable businessman. And when he becomes Chelsea owner then we will definitely have to understand where this is all heading. But in this transfer market, Chelsea has also succeeded in bringing in several potential young players. And maybe Chelsea won't immediately get good results in their first season with their new coach. but I also have hope that Chelsea can indeed get better in the long term. and it seems like the formation of the squad at Chelsea is more intended for the long term. This can all be seen from the number of young players currently at the club.

Enzo Maresca has just one job and is either he win the Premier League next season or make Chelsea top among the top 4 in the table and my advice is that he should try and do what Arteta is doing to Arsenal. People think Arsenal don't know what they are doing anytime they sign young players but Arteta almost snatched the trophy from Guardiola in the last two seasons.

Maresca should screen Chelsea players, where there is need to sell some, he should not even think twice and sell them especially the ones thatbade due to contract expiration and work with new ones because the old ones hasn't been able to win any trophy for Todd Boehly since he became the CEO of Chelsea football.

Young players are good for the future but without balanced recruitment, the tens of millions invested in these players will not serve Chelsea but only the owners' interests.
World-class clubs such as City, Madrid, Bayern, and others target world-class players.
The best manager, the best players, and the best coaching staff, that's the only way to stay at the top.
But currently, Chelsea is surrounded by mediocre people, from mediocre managers and staff to mediocre players.
Chelsea is now nothing more than a financial asset, it's not like a Big Club in the Premier League.
Chelsea lost her big name after Abrahamovich sold the club to Todd, since then Chelsea has being facing difficulties because they are recruiting average players and average coaches. I don't know how long these players will stay in Chelsea before they will become professionals and start winning titles. If most clubs are recruiting young players does not mean that they are recruiting average young players but young players who have great potentials and are doing great at their young age. It is not by recruiting young playrr but go for the best young players instead of throwing away millions on players that don't deserve such pay.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1401 on: July 07, 2024, 09:00:10 PM »
Chelsea lost her big name after Abrahamovich sold the club to Todd, since then Chelsea has being facing difficulties because they are recruiting average players and average coaches. I don't know how long these players will stay in Chelsea before they will become professionals and start winning titles. If most clubs are recruiting young players does not mean that they are recruiting average young players but young players who have great potentials and are doing great at their young age. It is not by recruiting young playrr but go for the best young players instead of throwing away millions on players that don't deserve such pay.

That's my point  :)
The tens of millions invested in these players will not benefit Chelsea in terms of performance, but this investment will only benefit the owners.
Todd Boehly seems to be doing the same thing as the Glazer family at United, they are more focused on making the club owners prosperous than winning the titles.

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« Reply #1402 on: July 07, 2024, 09:44:11 PM »
That's my point  :)
The tens of millions invested in these players will not benefit Chelsea in terms of performance, but this investment will only benefit the owners.
Todd Boehly seems to be doing the same thing as the Glazer family at United, they are more focused on making the club owners prosperous than winning the titles.
Huge amount investing, Chelsea not only has target with benefit in short term how to get good achievement for next season. Todd Boehly is loyal owner typical how much money spending every window transfer opening although Chelsea still difficult reach the higher standing position finish in domestic league.
Chelsea owner doing well with their loyality for signing many player, comparison with Manchester United owner get dofficult for signing new player every window transfer opening.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1403 on: July 07, 2024, 11:32:09 PM »
I currently see that Chelsea only wants to develop the talents of the young players they bring to the club to become football stars who could be worth a lot of money one day. We know who Todd is. Yes, he is a reliable businessman. And when he becomes Chelsea owner then we will definitely have to understand where this is all heading. But in this transfer market, Chelsea has also succeeded in bringing in several potential young players. And maybe Chelsea won't immediately get good results in their first season with their new coach. but I also have hope that Chelsea can indeed get better in the long term. and it seems like the formation of the squad at Chelsea is more intended for the long term. This can all be seen from the number of young players currently at the club.

Enzo Maresca has just one job and is either he win the Premier League next season or make Chelsea top among the top 4 in the table and my advice is that he should try and do what Arteta is doing to Arsenal. People think Arsenal don't know what they are doing anytime they sign young players but Arteta almost snatched the trophy from Guardiola in the last two seasons.

Maresca should screen Chelsea players, where there is need to sell some, he should not even think twice and sell them especially the ones thatbade due to contract expiration and work with new ones because the old ones hasn't been able to win any trophy for Todd Boehly since he became the CEO of Chelsea football.
The signing and selling of old players of Chelsea, are not in Enzo's hands to decide. It is on the management of Chelsea to decide, who they want in the Chelsea squad or who to let go. I think the coach in Chelsea doesn't interfere with the choices of players signed or sold by Chelsea management.

Having said that, I believe Enzo will bring out the best of the players handed over to him. It will be a matter of time. Let's see how Enzo rolls the ball going in Chelsea. Finger crossed

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1404 on: July 09, 2024, 10:11:27 PM »
That's my point  :)
The tens of millions invested in these players will not benefit Chelsea in terms of performance, but this investment will only benefit the owners.
Todd Boehly seems to be doing the same thing as the Glazer family at United, they are more focused on making the club owners prosperous than winning the titles.
Huge amount investing, Chelsea not only has target with benefit in short term how to get good achievement for next season. Todd Boehly is loyal owner typical how much money spending every window transfer opening although Chelsea still difficult reach the higher standing position finish in domestic league.
Chelsea owner doing well with their loyality for signing many player, comparison with Manchester United owner get dofficult for signing new player every window transfer opening.

During his two years as owner, Boehly was Overpaying for young unproven talent without providing experienced players in his team.
Sometimes it will work, sometimes not. But you can't base your whole team on that principle.
When you don't have experienced players in your team, then you can't build anything and it takes a long time to rebuild a club
Chelsea was impressive during the pre-season but Sh***t during the season
Spending a lot of money but no quality

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1405 on: July 09, 2024, 10:30:07 PM »
And their goalkeeper Onana was criticized for his unsatisfactory performance and many blunders. The basic mistakes that many players still make mean that they end up receiving a lot of criticism and even insults on social media.

After the departure of Alex Ferguson, for some reason the players who were brought in actually had to decline when playing for Manchester United. And I can say they played below their best.

People are too quick to abused players and that hurt their feelings, they are human beings too I think. I analyse the behavior of Onana and Maguire and they both have the same thing in common and that's pressure. Let's forget football sentiment, Maguire was signed with that huge amount because he was worth it, he had a good season in other places before coming to Manchester United but I feel he got relax and the consistent mistakes was affecting him psychology, even the fans weren't helping the situation.

Onana the same thing, he had a good season with Inter upto final in the Champions League against Manchester City, it was that performance that brought him to United but he also got relax and it the pressure overcrowded him. This is why I think the two of them were the most discussed topic of Manchester United last season.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1406 on: July 09, 2024, 11:17:30 PM »
People are too quick to abused players and that hurt their feelings, they are human beings too I think. I analyse the behavior of Onana and Maguire and they both have the same thing in common and that's pressure. Let's forget football sentiment, Maguire was signed with that huge amount because he was worth it, he had a good season in other places before coming to Manchester United but I feel he got relax and the consistent mistakes was affecting him psychology, even the fans weren't helping the situation.
This has become a painful public secret.
When you win, you are highly praised,
when he loses, he is reviled very lowly.
That is every human being who is always dissatisfied and unable to appreciate any form of struggle of a club or person in achieving something. This really hurts, judging a player has become a habit and players have to get used to this. This is what has become an open secret everywhere. It's quite annoying how easy it is to see people berate these players.

Onana the same thing, he had a good season with Inter upto final in the Champions League against Manchester City, it was that performance that brought him to United but he also got relax and it the pressure overcrowded him. This is why I think the two of them were the most discussed topic of Manchester United last season.
Yes, even though he is not the best, Andre Onana can play much better at Inter Milan. But at Man United, he looks like an incompetent player. In fact, this is not purely his fault, but in any case, Man United's defenders performed really badly last season. A goal keeper cannot work alone and cannot be optimal in saving the goal if some of the defenders are very bad. In fact, he is already quite good at carrying out various rescues, but it's just not yet optimal.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1407 on: July 09, 2024, 11:59:08 PM »
Chelsea lost her big name after Abrahamovich sold the club to Todd, since then Chelsea has being facing difficulties because they are recruiting average players and average coaches. I don't know how long these players will stay in Chelsea before they will become professionals and start winning titles. If most clubs are recruiting young players does not mean that they are recruiting average young players but young players who have great potentials and are doing great at their young age. It is not by recruiting young playrr but go for the best young players instead of throwing away millions on players that don't deserve such pay.
Actually, Abrahamovich has no chance at that time because England government doesn't want him to stay in Chelsea anymore. The reason Abrahamovich sold Chelsea wasn't about the financial problem, it was about another reason. After Todd became the new owner of Chelsea, Chelsea management became worse. They still can buy many players but they couldn't build their squad properly. I think Todd doesn't really understand about managing a football club, he needs time to manage it well.

Last season, Chelsea seems to have good progress in building their squad. Unfortunately, Todd doesn't understand that the coach (Mauricio Pochettino) has done quite good job but Todd fired him. Now, Enzo Maresca will be a hard job to rebuild again the squad.


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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1408 on: July 10, 2024, 10:05:57 AM »
Manchester United is a team that is still being discussed a lot after it was confirmed that they would still be with Erik Ten Hag next season, even though in terms of play under the direction of Erik Ten Hag they are not doing anything good.

In the next season, I hope that Erik Ten Hag can be even better in bringing Manchester United to show a good game, so that they can compete at least for a ticket to go to the Champions League.
Currently, the only thing we can hope for is that Ten Hag can bring good results in the next season. Because it seems like this club had no intention of letting Ten Hag go from the start. Because even now Ten Hag might even get a contract extension there. Whether we like it or not, we can't do anything about Ten Hag's way of being a coach there. The important thing is that we want to see Man United rise again no matter who the coach is.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1409 on: July 10, 2024, 03:00:25 PM »
And their goalkeeper Onana was criticized for his unsatisfactory performance and many blunders. The basic mistakes that many players still make mean that they end up receiving a lot of criticism and even insults on social media.

After the departure of Alex Ferguson, for some reason the players who were brought in actually had to decline when playing for Manchester United. And I can say they played below their best.

People are too quick to abused players and that hurt their feelings, they are human beings too I think. I analyse the behavior of Onana and Maguire and they both have the same thing in common and that's pressure. Let's forget football sentiment, Maguire was signed with that huge amount because he was worth it, he had a good season in other places before coming to Manchester United but I feel he got relax and the consistent mistakes was affecting him psychology, even the fans weren't helping the situation.

Onana the same thing, he had a good season with Inter upto final in the Champions League against Manchester City, it was that performance that brought him to United but he also got relax and it the pressure overcrowded him. This is why I think the two of them were the most discussed topic of Manchester United last season.
I think they already know what they will face when they are at a big team like Manchester United when they have under-performing or even bad performances. This should be a normal thing for them, because the pressure will always be there and that is their risk as players.

It is precisely because they get big contracts that supporters will start to raise their voices when their performances do not match their contracts.

 

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