[Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread

[Uruhara]

I'm starting to like how the Arsenal club is slowly continuing to improve the quality of their squad. Every season we can always see clear developments in the depth of the Arsenal squad. And the quality of their play every season always improves quite rapidly. All of this is thanks to their talented young coach, Arteta, and also because of the support of the club who always trusts Arteta in the process of forming the Arsenal squad slowly from season to season. Maybe this season Arsenal will only add a few new players because they already have quite good squad depth. And I think that's enough.

Arsenal management is quite good in improving the quality of their squad. We can see many young players with great ability in Arsenal squad. Their performance is also quite consistent, they always become the runner-up in the last 2 seasons. In the next season, Arsenal is also a candidate of EPL winner. This is what we couldn't see in the past, the current Arsenal squad is very competitive. I'm sure Arsenal can win EPL someday if Arteta can continue to manage Arsenal for a long time. In UCL, they may be not very impressive but they should perform better gradually.

Arsenal club management always makes this team better and also always allows Arteta to freely target the players the club needs. And currently it is reported that Arsenal still intends to add new strength to their squad. Because reportedly Arsenal are now interested in bringing in Julian Alvarez from Man City. But Arsenal's move this time will be quite difficult because they have to compete with Chelsea in the hunt for Alvarez.

[Roseline492]

Don't worry too much about pre-seasons because this is mostly experimental stage for the managers and players. Do not even bet on them. I'm amazed how there are people who try to profit from these games.

In terms of betting on most pre season matches is totally not advisable because those matches could be very unpredictable because most clubs use it as an opportunity to test there newly recruited, though in as much as most clubs are not reliable but there are also some of the clubs that takes it very serious just like this previous pre season match between Manchester United and Arsenal, we can see how tough the match was right from the beginning to the end of the match, however I no that Manchester United will not be able to win Arsenal and it happens just the way I presume.

[Uruhara]

Tomorrow we will see a pre-season match which will be quite exciting to watch. Namely a friendly match between Man City vs Barcelona. Maybe losing and winning is not the benchmark in this match. But I am curious about what style of play Barcelona will display in this match. Because reportedly Hansi Flick really wants to implement a different style of play at Barcelona. Even though this is only a friendly match, I feel like I shouldn't miss this match.

[ajiz138]

Arsenal's management habit is to give their coaches a very long chance, including Mikel Arteta. If they can't wait for developments, what happens is what we see at Chelsea, which changes coaches almost every season.

The reason is, if we look at the beginning of Arteta's coaching, if Arsenal wanted, they could have fired him in a short time. However, they appreciate the process that has been passed, so they have reached this point.

Arsene Wenger used Arsenal for business and the management are now used to that pattern with the fans of not being too eager to make changes because they believe that it can be achieved gradually. Moreover, they are not use to lifting EPL trophy and that is why they are also patient with whoever is their coach. Arteta is a good coach and he has gradually built the team to this level. One thing they lack is the mentality of winning EPL.

Supporters must also be mature in this matter, if they see quite positive progress that can be shown by the coach, then they must be patient to enjoy the process, unless there is no progress shown, they can start talking and demanding management policies.

The reason is that many supporters are also impatient in going through the process, they want something instant, even though in any case there is nothing that can be obtained instantly.

[koang]

Tomorrow we will see a pre-season match which will be quite exciting to watch. Namely a friendly match between Man City vs Barcelona. Maybe losing and winning is not the benchmark in this match. But I am curious about what style of play Barcelona will display in this match. Because reportedly Hansi Flick really wants to implement a different style of play at Barcelona. Even though this is only a friendly match, I feel like I shouldn't miss this match.

Two giants clash in Orlando. Expect goals, grit, and a battle worth watching. It will be fun
Hansi ball is on the horizon. It's time to see the new Barca and see if the heat will make the football sizzle or just melt
I have high hopes that Balde will do amazing this season, Under Flick, Davies became a monster at Bayern, and I think Balde can do the same at Barca.
Good luck to both teams...

[$crypto$]

Tomorrow we will see a pre-season match which will be quite exciting to watch. Namely a friendly match between Man City vs Barcelona. Maybe losing and winning is not the benchmark in this match. But I am curious about what style of play Barcelona will display in this match. Because reportedly Hansi Flick really wants to implement a different style of play at Barcelona. Even though this is only a friendly match, I feel like I shouldn't miss this match.

Two giants clash in Orlando. Expect goals, grit, and a battle worth watching. It will be fun
Hansi ball is on the horizon. It's time to see the new Barca and see if the heat will make the football sizzle or just melt
I have high hopes that Balde will do amazing this season, Under Flick, Davies became a monster at Bayern, and I think Balde can do the same at Barca.
Good luck to both teams...

The final score of this match was a 2-2 draw. Looking at the game, both teams played equally well and they made many strategy changes with many players being withdrawn. Indeed, their pre-season match focus was not winning but seeing how they prepared for the real season.

I myself did not expect anything or expect either of them to win, because from the start this was just their preparation match for the new season.

[koang]

The final score of this match was a 2-2 draw. Looking at the game, both teams played equally well and they made many strategy changes with many players being withdrawn. Indeed, their pre-season match focus was not winning but seeing how they prepared for the real season.

I myself did not expect anything or expect either of them to win, because from the start this was just their preparation match for the new season.

Super Jack Grealish cranking up the heat, Grealish scores. He is on fire!
He is the best player on and off the pitch, I have so much respect for this man, no what team he's on, though I'm glad he's on City.
I hope he catches his form this new season.

Barcelona played well with the La Masia players. City needs to get back the full squad now. The Citizens' performance in the pre-season matches was not good.

[Roseline492]

Arsenal club management always makes this team better and also always allows Arteta to freely target the players the club needs. And currently it is reported that Arsenal still intends to add new strength to their squad. Because reportedly Arsenal are now interested in bringing in Julian Alvarez from Man City. But Arsenal's move this time will be quite difficult because they have to compete with Chelsea in the hunt for Alvarez.

When you see a club that would go very far you would know because Arsenal knows what they want, however the club management always respect the decision of Arteta because they know that any decision he made will be of a beneficial to the growth of the club and one good thing about Arteta and the players is that they have a good understanding which makes them to more United than any other club.

However on there quest to signed Julian Alvarez from Manchester City is not totally a bad idea because Julian Alvarez is such a talented player full of creativity so it will certainly help Arsenal a lot, however in the case of competing with Chelsea in regards of buying Julian Alvarez I think he would prefer Arsenal than Chelsea.

[salad daging]

Tomorrow we will see a pre-season match which will be quite exciting to watch. Namely a friendly match between Man City vs Barcelona. Maybe losing and winning is not the benchmark in this match. But I am curious about what style of play Barcelona will display in this match. Because reportedly Hansi Flick really wants to implement a different style of play at Barcelona. Even though this is only a friendly match, I feel like I shouldn't miss this match.

I didn't watch this match seeing that the score ended with 2-2 in this match also they fielded some senior players even though it was not full time because they knew this was a pre-season match they were just testing the players before starting.

I can't imagine if this was a Champions League match maybe the intensity would be different.

[vegasus]

I didn't watch this match seeing that the score ended with 2-2 in this match also they fielded some senior players even though it was not full time because they knew this was a pre-season match they were just testing the players before starting.

I can't imagine if this was a Champions League match maybe the intensity would be different.

Yes, the match ended with a draw of 2-2. Then there were penalty shootouts won by Barcelona with a score of 4-1. Barcelona's superiority over Man City in this match, even though from the penalty shootout results, made its own pride, especially for its fans. While on the other hand, this pre-season match is actually not a priority for most teams. Even so far, Man City has lost continuously during the pre-season, right?

If it were in the UCL, of course it would be different, Man City players would appear more all out. The course of the match in this pre-season was quite different, Guardiola also seemed to be tinkering with strategies that might be implemented. However, it is still apparent from both of them that the squad is not too burdened and does not put in that much effort in the match because it is indeed so that there are no injuries.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Pre-seasons are the games that can give the most random results , I'm not one of those who trust in it, because it's basically to test the abilities of other players and to show that they can apply many strategies to benefit many more, here you can see the Potential that the players and the Coach have in general, it's not bad, it's always the best option to make things easy, I personally don't get my hopes up about any score, I know they can vary, therefore I don't make and Don't dare to make bets.

Makes sense.
This is just like a formality to do this match. It is proven that many top clubs do it not optimally, because they are worried about injuries, so they understand the condition very well and it is better not to be that optimal.

Even Man City and Liverpool also lost to small clubs and that cannot be considered a benchmark. Because if in the EPL league match, the two clubs will definitely compete much more optimally to get points. While in a match like this there is no significance for them to appear very stubbornly and very optimally which could be dangerous for them, to avoid all injuries.

Apart from all this, I have always said that a football match is a different story, and now more than ever football has taken an unexpected turn, you can no longer talk much about teams that are strong and that are sure to win, now the smallest team, the one that one thinks is not going to do anything is capable of beating a titan, we have seen the same since the World Cup in Qatar where a country that not many bet on beat Argentina and I remember very well how Saudi Arabia did it, it was historic for them.

That is why in the PL where the level of demand is very high , where the physical condition of teams like City, Liverpool are on another level, they can make the difference.

[alltalk]

It's scary to bet on a pre-season match that the favored team can lose, while they think it's an entertainment match instead of the real thing. I myself would rather take a break and prepare the bankroll to return to betting when the league starts, because it will be very interesting for the early matches still we will bet on the favorite team even if they lose in the pre-season, I don't see it as a profitable match for us.

Agree. It is too risky to bet in pre-season matches because most top teams won't play very seriously. They are just enjoying the matches, they coaches will use most the second tier players. The main purpose sometimes just gets money from the pre-season matches with entertained matches, and may try new lineup or tactics. But it won't be very serious matches, the coaches will prioritize to keep the physical and fitness of the players. The coach won't force the players to win the matches. So, it won't be very surprising if many top teams will get losses in pre-season matches.

Yep, I also prefer to enjoy the pre-season matches with no bet. Why don't to have the time watching the matches without thinking about gambling. We will have many matches to bet when the new season begins, right? 

[Rruchi man]

Yep, I also prefer to enjoy the pre-season matches with no bet. Why don't to have the time watching the matches without thinking about gambling. We will have many matches to bet when the new season begins, right? 

There are gamblers who are still actively betting even in this pre-season.. I find that to be one of the signs of serious addiction to sportsbet and because that really shows that they are unable to control themselves as gambler's and do not know when to  gamble and when not to gamble. Pre season games are for observation, we shouldn't gamble during this time.

[sampoerna]

Indeed, it is not their priority and it is not even a very deep thought for the club. It's just that for the fans and also the haters, it becomes news that is constantly being talked about.

Good and bad results from a match will always be the news but remember, it’s a pre-season.
Preseason is for testing out things, and again this is a preseason game, not all players have what it takes to execute tactics and plans.
We can’t see anything yet, there’s more to come, something that will be fixed with more tactical training, This will make the team build character early before the season starts.
And you are right, it is still a work in progress

That's why, never care about excessive fans and haters because that's what often backfires. Maybe there will still be an evaluation for future improvements from each club manager, at least seeing how the big picture is. It's just that, their impression is also certainly not to get injured or anything that could harm their club in the priority match later when they start entering their respective leagues.

There are gamblers who are still actively betting even in this pre-season.. I find that to be one of the signs of serious addiction to sportsbet

Seriously? I barely know about this. 
But it makes sense because it's called betting, so as long as it makes money, anything will be prepared for their own benefit. And as long as there are people who join the betting, it becomes a business field for them. 

Yes, the match ended with a draw of 2-2. Then there were penalty shootouts won by Barcelona with a score of 4-1.

It makes sense that Barcelona won the penalty shootout. After checking the list of penalty takers.

[JoyMarsha]

I'm starting to like how the Arsenal club is slowly continuing to improve the quality of their squad. Every season we can always see clear developments in the depth of the Arsenal squad. And the quality of their play every season always improves quite rapidly. All of this is thanks to their talented young coach, Arteta, and also because of the support of the club who always trusts Arteta in the process of forming the Arsenal squad slowly from season to season. Maybe this season Arsenal will only add a few new players because they already have quite good squad depth. And I think that's enough.

I think the mistakes of the last two seasons of failing to lift the PL trophy, taught Arsenal a lesson to learn how to sign additional players to their squad because of injuries occurrence of players.

Last season, they signed new players, and there was still a better improvement in the team we cannot judge them that they lack players to replace their injured players not topping PL table. However, this season, The Arsenal management would love to sign new players so that there won't be any found team weakness in any of their frontline attacks or defense that will deny them lifting the Premier League trophy for the third time.