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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1545 on: August 02, 2024, 11:47:36 PM »
United has been quite active on the transfer window, got Obi Martin now, a very talented young player who could be third string for now, but could work very well since they are considering both Hojlund and Zirkzee together in many games. I think with Mazraoui deal almost done, they are just trying to sell some players next up. They are planning on selling Mctominay, and Wan Bissaka and if Yoro is not injured for too long, they may actually sell Maguire as well, because they are looking into another defender as well. All of this looks quite good, on top of that they are planning on getting a new stadium as well, which could be quite nice.

I guess Man United will have to remain active during this transfer windows anyway with their new signing Leny Yoro, getting injured coupled along with Rasmus Hojlund and Marcus Rashford also picking up some injury problem as well, and now with the new season fast approaching they need all the able bodies they can get don't they ? so perhaps, they would have to add a couple of more new signings to their ranks.
I think the MU situation is that they need to get out of what they are experiencing, which is a Nightmare,If with all the players at 100% they can't win as they Should, I can't imagine a scenario where the majority of them are having Problems with injuries, I am one of the people who will always see things from the point of view that they have to be more Consistent in their recovery It is in their own hands to shine in the Best league in Europe, It seems to me that the PL is at the Highest level of Football in Europe.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1545 on: August 02, 2024, 11:47:36 PM »

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1546 on: August 03, 2024, 01:44:03 AM »
...//::
I think the MU situation is that they need to get out of what they are experiencing, which is a Nightmare,If with all the players at 100% they can't win as they Should, I can't imagine a scenario where the majority of them are having Problems with injuries, I am one of the people who will always see things from the point of view that they have to be more Consistent in their recovery It is in their own hands to shine in the Best league in Europe, It seems to me that the PL is at the Highest level of Football in Europe.

Maybe that's the answer, it's a league where you can't say that a team is good just because it has a great squad, so, League Premier have such a high level in all its teams. That is, d if it's true that at least 5 teams in this league are incredible, but half of these Premier League teams could easily win any other league in the world.

Then, e.g. Manchester City's success is above all its winning mentality led by its coach...  hence, maybe that's not where the fault lies(!?)... well,  we'll see. Ah, Hi Erik ten Hag :)


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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1547 on: August 03, 2024, 08:29:12 AM »
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I think the MU situation is that they need to get out of what they are experiencing, which is a Nightmare,If with all the players at 100% they can't win as they Should, I can't imagine a scenario where the majority of them are having Problems with injuries, I am one of the people who will always see things from the point of view that they have to be more Consistent in their recovery It is in their own hands to shine in the Best league in Europe, It seems to me that the PL is at the Highest level of Football in Europe.

Maybe that's the answer, it's a league where you can't say that a team is good just because it has a great squad, so, League Premier have such a high level in all its teams. That is, d if it's true that at least 5 teams in this league are incredible, but half of these Premier League teams could easily win any other league in the world.

Then, e.g. Manchester City's success is above all its winning mentality led by its coach...  hence, maybe that's not where the fault lies(!?)... well,  we'll see. Ah, Hi Erik ten Hag :)
There is no doubt that the English Premier League is the most popular league in the world and they are at the highest level with a very competitive level of competition. So they should be able to make their team also be at a different level.

Honestly, I am always skeptical when talking about Manchester United, not because I underestimate them but they themselves make me think like that. For example in recruiting players, from the strategies used and many more.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1548 on: August 03, 2024, 05:30:17 PM »
Honestly, I am always skeptical when talking about Manchester United, not because I underestimate them but they themselves make me think like that. For example in recruiting players, from the strategies used and many more.
Manchester United look to have faced a setback in the preseason with two of their players injured, especially the new signing, whom they had so much confidence in to bring stability to their defense. Moving forward, the luck that they have is that the player who they have on their watch list as a replacement to fill in the position of defender from Bayern Munich looks to be joining them soon. The Noussair Mazraoui deal seems to be almost completed, Manchester United still have a good chance in the coming season.


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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1549 on: August 03, 2024, 07:48:39 PM »
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That's the issue I mentioned, in reality the level is so high that sometimes teams simply have to accept that they have to wait for the proper training of players, coaches, managers, it's not just about money, for example, there you have Chelsea.

Sometimes it is a matter of viral requests from fans, asking, demanding, etc. and then they become a trend, for now MU should worry about maintain UEFA CL/PL positions (2024-2025),  and, hence,  they should worry about  "goes to go macth by game."  imo

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1550 on: August 03, 2024, 10:19:33 PM »
Hmm, maybe it's because of the readiness of the penalty takers, that's why Barcelona is far superior. Yes, because some of Man City's main players were withdrawn early on, so there are only a few players who are not really top players.
However, from here, at least, the coaches can assess which players will be strong enough or ready to become penalty kick executors at crucial moments. So this can be a good enough experience and attention for evaluation.
Indeed, their coach will certainly see from the results of the match a glimpse of what the basic abilities of each player are. Yes, although they certainly did not give their full effort, at least their readiness will still be seen. And penalty kicks too, if in a match that is indeed in the league, of course those who are used to being penalty kick takers will be chosen.

Honestly, I am always skeptical when talking about Manchester United, not because I underestimate them but they themselves make me think like that. For example in recruiting players, from the strategies used and many more.
No wonder, because it has been years since Man United was unable to achieve its achievements again, even unable to be as strong as before. It's like their era is over. Moreover, last season was very poor in performance in all lines and player selection. Only at least Man United won the FA Cup last season, but looking at their overall performance it is really normal why many people doubt the club.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1551 on: August 03, 2024, 11:27:51 PM »
I think the MU situation is that they need to get out of what they are experiencing, which is a Nightmare,If with all the players at 100% they can't win as they Should, I can't imagine a scenario where the majority of them are having Problems with injuries, I am one of the people who will always see things from the point of view that they have to be more Consistent in their recovery It is in their own hands to shine in the Best league in Europe, It seems to me that the PL is at the Highest level of Football in Europe.
It's like a continuous bad luck that happens to Man United. Injuries to their players are very common, even at the beginning of the season. Worse, in pre-season matches too. And this is what often makes Man United's performance really like a nightmare in every season lately. Although indeed, not only with injuries, actually their performance is also not good. but injuries complete their bad performance.

At least, Hojlund and also their summer signing, Leny Yoro, are currently getting assessments for injuries that occurred. Yes, especially Leny Yoro, this is their new signing and they have high hopes for this player, especially their pride that managed to precede Real Madrid to get Leny Yoro, and is currently threatened with injury.

More about info injury of Man United:
https://www.premierleague.com/news/4069491
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1551 on: August 03, 2024, 11:27:51 PM »


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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1552 on: August 04, 2024, 03:42:15 PM »
Honestly, I am always skeptical when talking about Manchester United, not because I underestimate them but they themselves make me think like that. For example in recruiting players, from the strategies used and many more.
No wonder, because it has been years since Man United was unable to achieve its achievements again, even unable to be as strong as before. It's like their era is over. Moreover, last season was very poor in performance in all lines and player selection. Only at least Man United won the FA Cup last season, but looking at their overall performance it is really normal why many people doubt the club.
Yes after they were in their glory days, they have to be a team that is widely underestimated now. This happened after they were left by Alex Ferguson, when Ferguson decided to retire from there we began to see the decline experienced by Manchester United.

They are a big team, they are also one of the teams with the most fans. However, with their status as a big team today they do not show that they are indeed a big team like before.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1553 on: August 04, 2024, 05:32:05 PM »
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I think the MU situation is that they need to get out of what they are experiencing, which is a Nightmare,If with all the players at 100% they can't win as they Should, I can't imagine a scenario where the majority of them are having Problems with injuries, I am one of the people who will always see things from the point of view that they have to be more Consistent in their recovery It is in their own hands to shine in the Best league in Europe, It seems to me that the PL is at the Highest level of Football in Europe.

Maybe that's the answer, it's a league where you can't say that a team is good just because it has a great squad, so, League Premier have such a high level in all its teams. That is, d if it's true that at least 5 teams in this league are incredible, but half of these Premier League teams could easily win any other league in the world.

Then, e.g. Manchester City's success is above all its winning mentality led by its coach...  hence, maybe that's not where the fault lies(!?)... well,  we'll see. Ah, Hi Erik ten Hag :)
There is no doubt that the English Premier League is the most popular league in the world and they are at the highest level with a very competitive level of competition. So they should be able to make their team also be at a different level.

Honestly, I am always skeptical when talking about Manchester United, not because I underestimate them but they themselves make me think like that. For example in recruiting players, from the strategies used and many more.
EPL have begin to lose its vibes which made it different from other leagues because the competition is no longer strong compared to before that a club cannot win the league for straight three times talk more of four times. If the coaches and the management's of the club are not serious of making the league tougher and interesting, I see the league losing its quality overtime. City has dominated the league for 4 years and it shows that, all clubs are under their armpit like in Ligue 1.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1554 on: August 04, 2024, 07:12:56 PM »
EPL have begin to lose its vibes which made it different from other leagues because the competition is no longer strong compared to before that a club cannot win the league for straight three times talk more of four times. If the coaches and the management's of the club are not serious of making the league tougher and interesting, I see the league losing its quality overtime. City has dominated the league for 4 years and it shows that, all clubs are under their armpit like in Ligue 1.

Before I always felt that if a player like Messi played in the Premier League and happened to be the most scorer of that season, it would be difficult for him to repeat that the following season. But look at how Erling Halland is scoring goals in the Premier League right now, he scored a hat-trick against Chelsea in their pre-season match yesterday, which I view as signs that he will be the EPL top scorer and Manchester City will still lift the EPL trophy this season. Even though Manchester City didn't start the league with a strong performance, there is always a chance that they will return to their form and win the EPL trophy because other clubs are under their armpit just as you said.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1555 on: August 04, 2024, 07:24:53 PM »
EPL have begin to lose its vibes which made it different from other leagues because the competition is no longer strong compared to before that a club cannot win the league for straight three times talk more of four times. If the coaches and the management's of the club are not serious of making the league tougher and interesting, I see the league losing its quality overtime. City has dominated the league for 4 years and it shows that, all clubs are under their armpit like in Ligue 1.

I differ from you LP's idea, the not alternative of another team is the result of what I have mentioned with the specific issue of: team + management + money + stars (players) + coach.

That is a difficult balance and MC has it, that is why they win titles, but that does not mean that the league loses level, for now it is like that.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1556 on: August 04, 2024, 08:54:34 PM »
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I think the MU situation is that they need to get out of what they are experiencing, which is a Nightmare,If with all the players at 100% they can't win as they Should, I can't imagine a scenario where the majority of them are having Problems with injuries, I am one of the people who will always see things from the point of view that they have to be more Consistent in their recovery It is in their own hands to shine in the Best league in Europe, It seems to me that the PL is at the Highest level of Football in Europe.
Injuries are what a team can't stop their players from having. Injuries can hit players at any time when their team management least expects their key players to begin to have injuries at crucial moments when the team will need them most in the team matches.

The problem of injuries that befell Manchester United, many clubs faced last season and other seasons, they came out strong afterward because they have quality players that could fit in those positions that their key players have injuries on.

Manchester United can come out strong from the injuries some of the key players have, if they can make other signings of new players in the team

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1557 on: August 04, 2024, 09:09:19 PM »
Honestly, I am always skeptical when talking about Manchester United, not because I underestimate them but they themselves make me think like that. For example in recruiting players, from the strategies used and many more.
No wonder, because it has been years since Man United was unable to achieve its achievements again, even unable to be as strong as before. It's like their era is over. Moreover, last season was very poor in performance in all lines and player selection. Only at least Man United won the FA Cup last season, but looking at their overall performance it is really normal why many people doubt the club.
Yes after they were in their glory days, they have to be a team that is widely underestimated now. This happened after they were left by Alex Ferguson, when Ferguson decided to retire from there we began to see the decline experienced by Manchester United.

They are a big team, they are also one of the teams with the most fans. However, with their status as a big team today they do not show that they are indeed a big team like before.
Manchester Unite have been over since leaving by Sir Alex Ferguson and never winning the domestic league trophies almost ten years, its longer time waiting for although still has Arsenal more than twenty years waiting for moment last their winning on season 2002/03. Manchester United is the big team and have most fanaticism fans but they are not lucky for winning premier league trophies after leaving by Ferguson.
Left two weeks before premier league season 2024/25 begin and I don't see any reason put United as candidate team become the winner.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1558 on: August 04, 2024, 11:30:10 PM »
No wonder, because it has been years since Man United was unable to achieve its achievements again, even unable to be as strong as before.
Yes after they were in their glory days, they have to be a team that is widely underestimated now. This happened after they were left by Alex Ferguson, when Ferguson decided to retire from there we began to see the decline experienced by Manchester United.
Yes, basically since Man United is no longer like that, then since then many people, whether they are fans or not, they often become the subject of continuous ridicule. But it is undeniable that Man United also actually made some developments, to get the players they are targeting and also link them with various top players they want. It's just that sometimes it is often a transfer that wastes money,


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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1559 on: August 04, 2024, 11:42:56 PM »
EPL have begin to lose its vibes which made it different from other leagues because the competition is no longer strong compared to before that a club cannot win the league for straight three times talk more of four times. If the coaches and the management's of the club are not serious of making the league tougher and interesting, I see the league losing its quality overtime. City has dominated the league for 4 years and it shows that, all clubs are under their armpit like in Ligue 1.
Why it lose its vibes? I think there is no problem with its vibes or its popularity. EPL still becomes the best league in the world, EPL is even more competitive because more teams join the competition of the trophy. Now, it is not only Man City dominates the league, Arsenal and Liverpool also show their good performance in every season. Arsenal and Liverpool makes EPL be more competitive recently. By the way, I think it is a bit non sense if we claim EPL lose its quality. The quality of the league doesn't depend on the coach and club management only, there are many other factors to determine the quality of the league. It is just too early to claim the quality of EPL decreasing.

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