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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1575 on: August 07, 2024, 08:52:18 PM »
Yes after they were in their glory days, they have to be a team that is widely underestimated now. This happened after they were left by Alex Ferguson, when Ferguson decided to retire from there we began to see the decline experienced by Manchester United.

They are a big team, they are also one of the teams with the most fans. However, with their status as a big team today they do not show that they are indeed a big team like before.
Manchester Unite have been over since leaving by Sir Alex Ferguson and never winning the domestic league trophies almost ten years, its longer time waiting for although still has Arsenal more than twenty years waiting for moment last their winning on season 2002/03. Manchester United is the big team and have most fanaticism fans but they are not lucky for winning premier league trophies after leaving by Ferguson.
Left two weeks before premier league season 2024/25 begin and I don't see any reason put United as candidate team become the winner.
In addition, their management is also not working seriously in my opinion, because if they were very serious then they would be able to bring Manchester United to its glory days or at least they would not be in a state that is too bad like now.

A professional team must have very good management, because even though in the game the players are playing on the instructions of the coach, the role of management is something that is very crucial because they are the ones who will direct the team where to go.

I totally agree that the management and direction of a team is one of the most Important things there is, because Basically the MU is one of the teams with the best players in the PL, but the coach for me is the one who doesn't fit in with them, his model and playing strategy is not the most appropriate, it has never seemed that way to me, I think the coach has had the success in his hands and he lets it go every time he can, so the solution could be in changing the coach , of course that won't happen soon , but I would like to see something where they improve.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1575 on: August 07, 2024, 08:52:18 PM »

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1576 on: August 07, 2024, 09:21:06 PM »

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Even last season, Liverpool also joined the party and this made the competition in the top 3 very tight. However, after that, there were several things that affected their consistency so that Liverpool finally came out of the fierce and tight competition in the top 3.
Will you be surprised to be let know that Liverpool hasn't signed any new players in addition to their current squad this season? Do you think they are doing the right thing, that their already made squad by their former coach "Klopp," the new coach "Arne Slot" is satisfied with them? There's the possibility of Liverpool making it to the top of the table this season. These are my questions when I find out that Liverpool hasn't made any new signings in this transfer window
I think the management is cool the the players that they already have on ground and that is why they have not signed any new players to add to the team. Slot is a good coach and can bring out the best in the players next season for them to finish among top four on the table. If Slot needed a new player, I believe he would have requested from the management and I must say that Klopp took his time to build this team and the players are passionate playing for Liverpool.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1577 on: August 07, 2024, 11:13:12 PM »
I think the management is cool the the players that they already have on ground and that is why they have not signed any new players to add to the team. Slot is a good coach and can bring out the best in the players next season for them to finish among top four on the table. If Slot needed a new player, I believe he would have requested from the management and I must say that Klopp took his time to build this team and the players are passionate playing for Liverpool.
Yes, indeed Arne Slot and Liverpool are one of the parties who have not done enough signings and even seem quite slow to achieve their signings in the transfer market this time. Yes, they are quite careful in spending money, because they themselves are indeed quite ready with their current squad. They may just be quite focused on improving several things in the squad and tactics. And until now they have not moved.

This is Arne Slot's first season at Liverpool after Klopp who previously became a legend from this Liverpool coach. This will be a challenge for him to manage the club much better and of course later there will be comparisons of various words from many parties between Slot vs Klopp.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1578 on: August 08, 2024, 01:39:21 AM »

(...)
Even last season, Liverpool also joined the party and this made the competition in the top 3 very tight. However, after that, there were several things that affected their consistency so that Liverpool finally came out of the fierce and tight competition in the top 3.
Will you be surprised to be let know that Liverpool hasn't signed any new players in addition to their current squad this season? Do you think they are doing the right thing, that their already made squad by their former coach "Klopp," the new coach "Arne Slot" is satisfied with them? There's the possibility of Liverpool making it to the top of the table this season. These are my questions when I find out that Liverpool hasn't made any new signings in this transfer window
I think the management is cool the the players that they already have on ground and that is why they have not signed any new players to add to the team. Slot is a good coach and can bring out the best in the players next season for them to finish among top four on the table. If Slot needed a new player, I believe he would have requested from the management and I must say that Klopp took his time to build this team and the players are passionate playing for Liverpool.

Slot's best bet is to go with current squad Liverpool have, they were able to keep their all their important players including Salah, and this is a squad with which they have all the quality in almost every position, last season just happened to have ended the worse way for them very close to the end of the season. If there is a position he should consider having some extra options for, I'd say that should be the backline, because I'm not sure how he intends to play TAA, and we all know TAA's flaw is on the defensive end, perhaps an extra option CB/RB wouldn't be a bad decision to consider.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1579 on: August 08, 2024, 02:22:40 PM »
In addition, their management is also not working seriously in my opinion, because if they were very serious then they would be able to bring Manchester United to its glory days or at least they would not be in a state that is too bad like now.

A professional team must have very good management, because even though in the game the players are playing on the instructions of the coach, the role of management is something that is very crucial because they are the ones who will direct the team where to go.

I totally agree that the management and direction of a team is one of the most Important things there is, because Basically the MU is one of the teams with the best players in the PL, but the coach for me is the one who doesn't fit in with them, his model and playing strategy is not the most appropriate, it has never seemed that way to me, I think the coach has had the success in his hands and he lets it go every time he can, so the solution could be in changing the coach , of course that won't happen soon , but I would like to see something where they improve.
Looking at the squad they have, Manchester United actually has a capable squad and that is enough to make them play better, but in reality the players cannot perform at their best level.

Yes, this cannot be separated from the role of the coach, because the coach is the one who gives them instructions on how to play with the strategy given. And when they fail, the first person in the spotlight is the coach who is considered to have failed to make his players perform at their best.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1580 on: August 08, 2024, 04:10:11 PM »
Yes, indeed Arne Slot and Liverpool are one of the parties who have not done enough signings and even seem quite slow to achieve their signings in the transfer market this time. Yes, they are quite careful in spending money, because they themselves are indeed quite ready with their current squad. They may just be quite focused on improving several things in the squad and tactics. And until now they have not moved.


Liverpool's standards for new signings are very high because they have so many good players.
It is not easy to find players who meet those standards and the availability of the type of players needed in the market.
But Liverpool played in the Champions League, Premier League, FA, and Carabao Cup, they still need to sign new players.
I think Arne Slot is still monitoring several players to be included as an alternative to be bought in the 2024 summer transfer market.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1581 on: August 08, 2024, 04:32:32 PM »
Yes, indeed Arne Slot and Liverpool are one of the parties who have not done enough signings and even seem quite slow to achieve their signings in the transfer market this time. Yes, they are quite careful in spending money, because they themselves are indeed quite ready with their current squad. They may just be quite focused on improving several things in the squad and tactics. And until now they have not moved.
Liverpool's standards for new signings are very high because they have so many good players.
It is not easy to find players who meet those standards and the availability of the type of players needed in the market.
But Liverpool played in the Champions League, Premier League, FA, and Carabao Cup, they still need to sign new players.
I think Arne Slot is still monitoring several players to be included as an alternative to be bought in the 2024 summer transfer market.
I'm pretty sure there are a number of players that meets their standard and are already in their radar. The problem is that there is competition to land these players because they are also scouted by other big clubs from Premier League and other leagues.

Liverpool might be okay with playing the long game also after changing manager. After all, it takes a while before they could see results.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1582 on: August 08, 2024, 05:36:59 PM »
Man United when they are at their best is always a very dangerous team. And we also must not forget that Man United is the champion in the FA Cup. So their strength must still be taken into account even though they did not get very good results in the Premier League. Man City is a team whose strength is greatly feared, not only in the premier league but also in the UCL. Maybe in last season's UCL, if Man City had not faced Real Madrid, there is a big possibility that this team would have advanced to the final again. But both of them will once again try to prove who is stronger, namely through the final match in the Community Shield which will bring together the Premier League champions and the FA Cup champions.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1583 on: August 08, 2024, 06:19:19 PM »
Yes, indeed Arne Slot and Liverpool are one of the parties who have not done enough signings and even seem quite slow to achieve their signings in the transfer market this time. Yes, they are quite careful in spending money, because they themselves are indeed quite ready with their current squad. They may just be quite focused on improving several things in the squad and tactics. And until now they have not moved.
They must have players under their radar, but the coach is just deciding not to be in a hurry. If the coach hurriedly signs new players, they may not fit into the new ideology he is trying to bring to the club.

Man United when they are at their best is always a very dangerous team. And we also must not forget that Man United is the champion in the FA Cup. So their strength must still be taken into account even though they did not get very good results in the Premier League.
Manchester United should hope to have a season not affected by injuries, because they are already not going into the season well.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1584 on: August 08, 2024, 06:31:07 PM »
Man United when they are at their best is always a very dangerous team. And we also must not forget that Man United is the champion in the FA Cup. So their strength must still be taken into account even though they did not get very good results in the Premier League.
Manchester United should hope to have a season not affected by injuries, because they are already not going into the season well.
Yes, they really have to avoid the storm of injuries again hitting their squad like what happened last season, which caused their performance to decline drastically. But unfortunately even in pre-season we have seen two important players suffer injuries even though we are still in pre-season. So it will be quite difficult to expect this team to be free from injuries. Because I see how vulnerable the players on this team are to injury.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1585 on: August 08, 2024, 11:12:19 PM »
Man United when they are at their best is always a very dangerous team. And we also must not forget that Man United is the champion in the FA Cup. So their strength must still be taken into account even though they did not get very good results in the Premier League.
Manchester United should hope to have a season not affected by injuries, because they are already not going into the season well.
Yes, they really have to avoid the storm of injuries again hitting their squad like what happened last season, which caused their performance to decline drastically. But unfortunately even in pre-season we have seen two important players suffer injuries even though we are still in pre-season. So it will be quite difficult to expect this team to be free from injuries. Because I see how vulnerable the players on this team are to injury.
I remember when a few seasons ago Liverpool had a lot of injured players the game became slumped and uncontrollable times players were injured so this caused the game to decline.

And now Manchester United are experiencing before the Premier League starts, so this hits the Red Devils while Erik Ten Hag will continue to be demanded to improve Manchester United's performance before, if the players are still injured then this will make it difficult for Ten Hag.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1586 on: August 09, 2024, 01:49:55 PM »
Liverpool will start their journey this season with their new coach after Jurgen Klopp decided to step down from Liverpool's coaching chair. That makes us wonder whether they will be able to perform well or need more time for the adaptation process.

Usually a team has to go through an adaptation process first if they have a new coach, but I hope they can play well with the new coach in their first season.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1587 on: August 09, 2024, 05:54:27 PM »
Liverpool will start their journey this season with their new coach after Jurgen Klopp decided to step down from Liverpool's coaching chair. That makes us wonder whether they will be able to perform well or need more time for the adaptation process.

Usually a team has to go through an adaptation process first if they have a new coach, but I hope they can play well with the new coach in their first season.
Well, from their performance in the pre-season so far I think their's a tendency for them to do well in the upcoming season, I observed their new coaches pattern and I've come to a conclusion that his tactics is total different from Jurgen Klopp's, they're getting their passes accurately and their touch on  the oppositions final third is something I'm really impressed about, if you watch their match against united you'll see that they were very comfortable with the ball and confused United with passes, most of their goals were from tap ins which shows that they're operating more from the flanks instead of utilitising the centre forward more, well going into the season I don't know if such tactics would work when they face a more defensive team but then if it works I think Jurgen kloop would be proud of himself for leaving them in safe hands, as for adaptation I think Liverpool have used the pre-season to adapt to Slot's tactics and they need to be consistent in with it in the upcoming season.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1588 on: August 09, 2024, 06:04:41 PM »
I'm pretty sure there are a number of players that meets their standard and are already in their radar. The problem is that there is competition to land these players because they are also scouted by other big clubs from Premier League and other leagues.

Liverpool might be okay with playing the long game also after changing manager. After all, it takes a while before they could see results.

No doubt. If the player and club have agreed then I don't think there will be any issues

Btw, Liverpool and Real Sociedad are still working on reaching an agreement for Zubimendi.
Liverpool lost Le  Normand so I think Liverpool would be more careful with this deal and hopefully, it would be further along than first reported but it seems we’re still miles off it…
But Zubimendi wants Liverpool, and that's exactly where he'll go, whether Sociedad likes or not

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1589 on: August 09, 2024, 07:13:20 PM »
In addition, their management is also not working seriously in my opinion, because if they were very serious then they would be able to bring Manchester United to its glory days or at least they would not be in a state that is too bad like now.

A professional team must have very good management, because even though in the game the players are playing on the instructions of the coach, the role of management is something that is very crucial because they are the ones who will direct the team where to go.

I totally agree that the management and direction of a team is one of the most Important things there is, because Basically the MU is one of the teams with the best players in the PL, but the coach for me is the one who doesn't fit in with them, his model and playing strategy is not the most appropriate, it has never seemed that way to me, I think the coach has had the success in his hands and he lets it go every time he can, so the solution could be in changing the coach , of course that won't happen soon , but I would like to see something where they improve.
Looking at the squad they have, Manchester United actually has a capable squad and that is enough to make them play better, but in reality the players cannot perform at their best level.

Yes, this cannot be separated from the role of the coach, because the coach is the one who gives them instructions on how to play with the strategy given. And when they fail, the first person in the spotlight is the coach who is considered to have failed to make his players perform at their best.

For me, MU is one of the teams that can always make a difference, but given their direction, I think they haven't played out their full potential, because the players they have are very good. Of course, each of the players has different abilities and each can contribute much more than we think, but in part these players must be bored of being in a team that doesn't win anything. Well, they have won, but not what they can win, being relevant in the PL and the UCL Until now , they haven't been able to do that.
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