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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1605 on: August 10, 2024, 11:13:23 PM »
The speculation begins after the Community shield ;D I wouldn't use this game to speculate on City's performance next season because they started slow in the past two seasons but they still ended up winning the league. As for Man United, they give you hope at the beginning but they disappoint in the end ::)
At the moment if any other team is to defeat Manchester city to become the champions of the premier League they do not need to hope for Manchester city's performance to drop but rather work to make sure that their performance is high standard and that they at their very best that even Manchester city even on their own best will not be able to keep up. If any team is expecting Manchester city's performance to drop so as to give way to other teams to win the premier League, they are just joking.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1606 on: August 10, 2024, 11:39:24 PM »
At the moment if any other team is to defeat Manchester city to become the champions of the premier League they do not need to hope for Manchester city's performance to drop but rather work to make sure that their performance is high standard and that they at their very best that even Manchester city even on their own best will not be able to keep up. If any team is expecting Manchester city's performance to drop so as to give way to other teams to win the premier League, they are just joking.
It is difficult to defeat Man City, Man City is too dominant in EPL now. I think the only way to defeat Man City is when Guardiola really leaves Man City. I heard Guardiola will leave Man City after his contract is over in the next year. This will be good news for other big teams in EPL. Well, Man City becomes a very strong team under Guardiola management. Guardiola know well to sign proper players for Man City and he can build Man City squad very well. As far as Guardiola is Man City manager/coach, there is no way to expect for a decrease performance of Man City.


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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1607 on: August 11, 2024, 03:23:05 AM »
The speculation begins after the Community shield ;D I wouldn't use this game to speculate on City's performance next season because they started slow in the past two seasons but they still ended up winning the league. As for Man United, they give you hope at the beginning but they disappoint in the end ::)
At the moment if any other team is to defeat Manchester city to become the champions of the premier League they do not need to hope for Manchester city's performance to drop but rather work to make sure that their performance is high standard and that they at their very best that even Manchester city even on their own best will not be able to keep up. If any team is expecting Manchester city's performance to drop so as to give way to other teams to win the premier League, they are just joking.
No matter how powerful we see Manchester City to be, they also have some weaknesses. One of their major weakness is pressure. They don't like other clubs to pressure them because they don't withstand it. That is the strategy that Klopp has used against him for sometime. When you pressure Manchester City, they will lose the guts to pressure you and thereby balancing the game.

Waiting for Manchester city to drop form is not something that wants to happen any moment. It is better for teams to reinforce than waiting for Manchester City to lose form.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1608 on: August 11, 2024, 10:16:04 AM »
At the moment if any other team is to defeat Manchester city to become the champions of the premier League they do not need to hope for Manchester city's performance to drop but rather work to make sure that their performance is high standard and that they at their very best that even Manchester city even on their own best will not be able to keep up. If any team is expecting Manchester city's performance to drop so as to give way to other teams to win the premier League, they are just joking.
It is difficult to defeat Man City, Man City is too dominant in EPL now. I think the only way to defeat Man City is when Guardiola really leaves Man City. I heard Guardiola will leave Man City after his contract is over in the next year. This will be good news for other big teams in EPL. Well, Man City becomes a very strong team under Guardiola management. Guardiola know well to sign proper players for Man City and he can build Man City squad very well. As far as Guardiola is Man City manager/coach, there is no way to expect for a decrease performance of Man City.

I think the problem isn't because Man City is rather too dominant in the EPL, but rather the other usual potential title contenders are all failing to live up to the standards that has been set by Man City, Arsenal despite falling short for instance are almost the only team that have pressured Man City well enough over the last two seasons, Liverpool also tried last season before every crumbled during the stretch. If the other big 5 teams like Chelsea, Arsenal, Man United Liverpool and Tottenham improve their standards and become real title contenders, then Man City are not going to keep having it all like an already guaranteed title at the beginning of every season.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1609 on: August 11, 2024, 02:38:32 PM »

I think the problem isn't because Man City is rather too dominant in the EPL, but rather the other usual potential title contenders are all failing to live up to the standards that has been set by Man City, Arsenal despite falling short for instance are almost the only team that have pressured Man City well enough over the last two seasons, Liverpool also tried last season before every crumbled during the stretch. If the other big 5 teams like Chelsea, Arsenal, Man United Liverpool and Tottenham improve their standards and become real title contenders, then Man City are not going to keep having it all like an already guaranteed title at the beginning of every season.

Makes sense  :)
Every big team is on the same page before the season starts, they are all expected to challenge the league
Manchester United is winning the transfer window title this season so far
New assistants, new signings in key areas, and Contract extensions for key players.
Steps in the right direction, it's a foundation for a project, but I can not expect too much.
But not playing in the next Champions League would be to me.
So Arsenal and The Cityzen will still be the two main candidates to win the title next season.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1610 on: August 11, 2024, 02:52:58 PM »

I think the problem isn't because Man City is rather too dominant in the EPL, but rather the other usual potential title contenders are all failing to live up to the standards that has been set by Man City, Arsenal despite falling short for instance are almost the only team that have pressured Man City well enough over the last two seasons, Liverpool also tried last season before every crumbled during the stretch. If the other big 5 teams like Chelsea, Arsenal, Man United Liverpool and Tottenham improve their standards and become real title contenders, then Man City are not going to keep having it all like an already guaranteed title at the beginning of every season.
You are right, when Manchester City can give their best, at the same time other teams fail to show good and consistent play, so that opens up opportunities for Manchester City to continue to dominate the English League in the last few seasons. It would be a different story if they had a worthy opponent.

Many teams are below their best performance, even Liverpool still often slips, as does Arsenal. Other big teams like Chelsea and Manchester United, we know how they are now.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1611 on: August 11, 2024, 03:16:02 PM »

I think the problem isn't because Man City is rather too dominant in the EPL, but rather the other usual potential title contenders are all failing to live up to the standards that has been set by Man City, Arsenal despite falling short for instance are almost the only team that have pressured Man City well enough over the last two seasons, Liverpool also tried last season before every crumbled during the stretch. If the other big 5 teams like Chelsea, Arsenal, Man United Liverpool and Tottenham improve their standards and become real title contenders, then Man City are not going to keep having it all like an already guaranteed title at the beginning of every season.
You are right, when Manchester City can give their best, at the same time other teams fail to show good and consistent play, so that opens up opportunities for Manchester City to continue to dominate the English League in the last few seasons. It would be a different story if they had a worthy opponent.

Many teams are below their best performance, even Liverpool still often slips, as does Arsenal. Other big teams like Chelsea and Manchester United, we know how they are now.
I think this season will be a different one and Manchester City will not be able to win EPL because a lot of changes has been made and new players bought in various clubs to strengthen their clubs so that they can be able to be in competition with City. I see football as a game that a club can dominate for some time and that club will fade away giving room to the best to take over dominance.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1612 on: August 11, 2024, 04:08:36 PM »
So there's an article covering Pep and his motivation of winning another title this coming season. City's rival fans might like this news ;D https://www.premierleague.com/news/4078405

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Last year, after Istanbul, I said ‘it’s over, there’s nothing left’. But I have a contract and I start to think ‘no-one has done four in a row, why don't we try.

And now I feel it’s done, so what next? Now I don't know what exactly the motivation is because it's difficult to find it when everything is done.

He's tired/bored and could look for another challenge elsewhere but he's a professional. He'll still try to win for the fifth consecutive time before going to another league or taking a break.

Maybe this is Arsenal's biggest chance to win.


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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1613 on: August 11, 2024, 08:45:35 PM »


Why Everton are Under 'Threat' of Receiving Another Points Deduction

According to fresh reports, Everton are now under the 'threat' of receiving yet another points deduction. This comes after the Premier League club were deducted numerous points last season.

On the dawn of their upcoming English top-flight campaign, the Toffees will be hoping minds and bodies are sharp after pre-season, which came to an end with a 1-1 draw against Roma this weekend. Under Sean Dyche, they finished 15th in the league last term and will be aiming to avoid a relegation battle this time around.

It will come as an unwanted distraction for all involved with the club then that they will begin 2024/25 with the 'threat' of another points deduction hanging over them, per The Sun.

Source link: https://www.givemesport.com/why-everton-are-now-at-threat-of-receiving-yet-another-points-deduction/
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1614 on: August 11, 2024, 10:37:39 PM »
I think this season will be a different one and Manchester City will not be able to win EPL because a lot of changes has been made and new players bought in various clubs to strengthen their clubs so that they can be able to be in competition with City. I see football as a game that a club can dominate for some time and that club will fade away giving room to the best to take over dominance.
I'm surprised that you claim Man City won't be the winner of EPL. IMO, Man City is still the most favorite team to win EPL with their current squad. Even if other teams have bought many new players, it doesn't guarantee they will be more competitive and can beat Man City. It is not easy to build a strong team like Man City, it needs a long process. Guardiola has made great mentality for the whole players as well. I think Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham, and Man United still aren't in the same level with Man City. So, I personally think Man City should have the higher chance to win EPL title or other domestic titles.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1615 on: August 11, 2024, 10:59:10 PM »
I think this season will be a different one and Manchester City will not be able to win EPL because a lot of changes has been made and new players bought in various clubs to strengthen their clubs so that they can be able to be in competition with City.
I'm surprised that you claim Man City won't be the winner of EPL. IMO, Man City is still the most favorite team to win EPL with their current squad. Even if other teams have bought many new players, it doesn't guarantee they will be more competitive and can beat Man City.
It is possible that the competition in the EPL will be tighter, however, I also think that Man City's chance to win the EPL trophy is still big and I believe they will do it again. It's just that, it certainly won't be that easy, as before, the competition in the top 3 will certainly make everything more interesting and challenging.

On the other hand, it seems that for the top clubs, there are not many changes to them. Like Liverpool, which until now has not had a truly top transfer and has a role in the club, there is only Vitezslav Jaros (Goalkeeper, free transfer). Then Arsenal, there are Calafiori and David Raya, with conditions like that, Man City still has a squad that is quite the same as yesterday except for Alvarez, and this does not change much, especially since Man City's main squad is still the same.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1616 on: August 12, 2024, 11:02:28 PM »
Liverpool will start their journey this season with their new coach after Jurgen Klopp decided to step down from Liverpool's coaching chair. That makes us wonder whether they will be able to perform well or need more time for the adaptation process.

Usually a team has to go through an adaptation process first if they have a new coach, but I hope they can play well with the new coach in their first season.

It's true, and I hope they do very well in this new adventure that lies ahead, Klopp marked them, but without a doubt the things that are coming to them are very good, the players know each other, they know what the system was like with Klopp, the new coach can't come and implement his formation by force, they have to do it very slowly and correcting those vulnerabilities they had before, if he does it that way and being in agreement with his players I think they will be able to maintain at least that union and harmony that Liverpool has shown, for me they will have a great PL this time.
There will be a transition, including in the strategy that the coach will implement. Previously, they may have known very well what Klopp wanted, but now they need to learn it again because I am sure there will be differences between one coach and another even though philosophically they use the same philosophy.

The coach must know the character of each player he has, because after all they must understand the player's abilities. In my opinion, a good coach is a coach who can know his players well.

Yes, there's no Doubt about that. I'll always say one thing, when a new coach comes , the transition period must be done, and in fact at Liverpool they've had very good time for that. The new coach must be clear about one thing, that he must know each player, their talents and everything. I see that this team has a lot to give and for all the fans who expect the best from the team ,  it's time to go even further. Why not, think about winning the PL and getting closer to winning the UCL, this is the goal, they have all the material and resources to do it.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1617 on: August 13, 2024, 08:18:49 AM »
There will be a transition, including in the strategy that the coach will implement. Previously, they may have known very well what Klopp wanted, but now they need to learn it again because I am sure there will be differences between one coach and another even though philosophically they use the same philosophy.

The coach must know the character of each player he has, because after all they must understand the player's abilities. In my opinion, a good coach is a coach who can know his players well.

Yes, there's no Doubt about that. I'll always say one thing, when a new coach comes , the transition period must be done, and in fact at Liverpool they've had very good time for that. The new coach must be clear about one thing, that he must know each player, their talents and everything. I see that this team has a lot to give and for all the fans who expect the best from the team ,  it's time to go even further. Why not, think about winning the PL and getting closer to winning the UCL, this is the goal, they have all the material and resources to do it.

So far, Im impressed with their performance In the Pre-season, and it's a good thing his players are getting to understand his tactics as fast as possible and that's the best time for him to familiarise with them, know their different characters on and off the pitch and even implement his own rules, something different from the previous coach, Arne Slot did something great at his previous team and although he's in a new environment with new squad he's got a squad that has quality players and that's to his advantage so getting the best out of them with his new strategy is what he needs to improve and so far it seems they're getting it right, but I'm wondering why they've failed to sign new players, they need new players to boost their depth against injury, that's something Slot needs to work on before the end of the transfer window.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1618 on: August 13, 2024, 12:27:30 PM »
So far, Im impressed with their performance In the Pre-season, and it's a good thing his players are getting to understand his tactics as fast as possible and that's the best time for him to familiarise with them, know their different characters on and off the pitch and even implement his own rules, something different from the previous coach, Arne Slot did something great at his previous team and although he's in a new environment with new squad he's got a squad that has quality players and that's to his advantage so getting the best out of them with his new strategy is what he needs to improve and so far it seems they're getting it right, but I'm wondering why they've failed to sign new players, they need new players to boost their depth against injury, that's something Slot needs to work on before the end of the transfer window.

Will Liverpool going to start the new season without a single new player?

Liverpool got the new manager but management does not support him by buying new players.
4 days to go and not a single signing. It's not a good sign
The Zubimmendi transfer mess-up should be a wake-up call to all Liverpool fans. If a player from a lower club like Real Sociedad can easily reject Liverpool's offer, it shows that there is a problem.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1619 on: August 13, 2024, 07:01:52 PM »
There will be a transition, including in the strategy that the coach will implement. Previously, they may have known very well what Klopp wanted, but now they need to learn it again because I am sure there will be differences between one coach and another even though philosophically they use the same philosophy.

The coach must know the character of each player he has, because after all they must understand the player's abilities. In my opinion, a good coach is a coach who can know his players well.

Yes, there's no Doubt about that. I'll always say one thing, when a new coach comes , the transition period must be done, and in fact at Liverpool they've had very good time for that. The new coach must be clear about one thing, that he must know each player, their talents and everything. I see that this team has a lot to give and for all the fans who expect the best from the team ,  it's time to go even further. Why not, think about winning the PL and getting closer to winning the UCL, this is the goal, they have all the material and resources to do it.

So far, Im impressed with their performance In the Pre-season, and it's a good thing his players are getting to understand his tactics as fast as possible and that's the best time for him to familiarise with them, know their different characters on and off the pitch and even implement his own rules, something different from the previous coach, Arne Slot did something great at his previous team and although he's in a new environment with new squad he's got a squad that has quality players and that's to his advantage so getting the best out of them with his new strategy is what he needs to improve and so far it seems they're getting it right, but I'm wondering why they've failed to sign new players, they need new players to boost their depth against injury, that's something Slot needs to work on before the end of the transfer window.

It's very positive, it seems that we all have very good expectations about Liverpool, I hope they can do the same in the Premier League , it is presumed that Man City have not dropped their level in the pre-season, and that gives us a way of seeing what this team is going to do, I'm eager to see how Luis Diaz and Mo Salah can turn the team around with this new coach, so in this aspect the fans can expect very good things, I wonder how Aston Villa will do, there are also Many expectations.
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