[Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread

[Zed0X]

So, as expected by many, Man United got destroyed in front of its own audience by Liverpool.
To be fair, I expected a draw or a minimal win by either team by one goal, but 3-0 is not a good look for Ten Hag.
To give justice to Man Utd, they had some scoring chances of their own and slightly led in possession, and two of the lost goals could be blamed on Casemiro, who pretty much just gave the ball away to Gravenberch in their own half and got nudged off the ball by Diaz for the second. Nevertheless, the problem with goal scoring continues since last season and even Ten Hag admitted that expecting Man United to win the trophy this season is unrealistic.
I'd say, they'll be lucky to finish in the top 5.

Ah nice of him to not set high expectations this season but it might work against him and the team's mindset too. It's more competitive than the score suggests but more of these results and he'll more likely to be booted out of the club even after signing a new contract a few months ago.

[Uruhara]

So, as expected by many, Man United got destroyed in front of its own audience by Liverpool.
To be fair, I expected a draw or a minimal win by either team by one goal, but 3-0 is not a good look for Ten Hag.
To give justice to Man Utd, they had some scoring chances of their own and slightly led in possession, and two of the lost goals could be blamed on Casemiro, who pretty much just gave the ball away to Gravenberch in their own half and got nudged off the ball by Diaz for the second. Nevertheless, the problem with goal scoring continues since last season and even Ten Hag admitted that expecting Man United to win the trophy this season is unrealistic.
I'd say, they'll be lucky to finish in the top 5.

Ah nice of him to not set high expectations this season but it might work against him and the team's mindset too. It's more competitive than the score suggests but more of these results and he'll more likely to be booted out of the club even after signing a new contract a few months ago.

With all the conditions that exist at the MU club, it is not realistic to expect MU to compete for the title. All that can be expected from MU is to be able to get UCL tickets. But they can do it not only from the EPL. but MU also has a big opportunity by having to win the European League title. Ten Hag is increasingly doubtful at the moment. although the MU club does have several core players who are injured and unfortunately the ones who suffer the most injuries are their back line. And all of that makes MU really weak in defense at the moment.

[Zed0X]

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although the MU club does have several core players who are injured and unfortunately the ones who suffer the most injuries are their back line. And all of that makes MU really weak in defense at the moment.

Yeah, unfortunate to see teams not able to play at full strength but it's still part of the game. I guess their recent signing Ugarte will provide the defensive ability that MU really needs right now. They still have issues at the front but at least they will have better opportunities if someone could help take care of the middle and back line.

[koang]

Spurs had to bow to The Magpies 2-1 this is another Spurs failure while Newcastle have yet to lose.

Tottenham dominated the game and Brennan Johnson had a big impact on Tottenham’s threat to Newcastle but at the end of the day they have come away with nothing. It’s frustrating.
The Only stat that matters is scoring more goals than your opponent. Different seasons, same issues.
Tottenham needs to be faster with build-up and finishing touch.
Also, Sons is not the player he was. Should rest him when Solankes fit. IMO

[Tribalchief]

Yeah, unfortunate to see teams not able to play at full strength but it's still part of the game. I guess their recent signing Ugarte will provide the defensive ability that MU really needs right now. They still have issues at the front but at least they will have better opportunities if someone could help take care of the middle and back line.

You happen to figure out certain leaks in the team, but it's funny that Ten hag doesn't see the same. He keeps talking about "Not sticking to the plan", when he certainly needs quality is some positions. I hate to say this , but I think United will continue from where they stopped last season. Aside the backline, we can't overlook the fact that the front line lacks proper finishing. They know how to make good build up from the backline, but putting the ball at the back of the net is just a problem for them. Rashford on the other hand hasn't being himself. Ten hag needs a player that will compete alot against rashford, and put a threat to his starting for the united team.

[Uruhara]

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although the MU club does have several core players who are injured and unfortunately the ones who suffer the most injuries are their back line. And all of that makes MU really weak in defense at the moment.

Yeah, unfortunate to see teams not able to play at full strength but it's still part of the game. I guess their recent signing Ugarte will provide the defensive ability that MU really needs right now. They still have issues at the front but at least they will have better opportunities if someone could help take care of the middle and back line.

Sometimes I have a little difficulty assessing this team. Is this team bad because the players' performance is bad, or because their coach is unable to make a good strategy, or maybe it's because of player injuries. So that makes MU continue to play with less than optimal strength. But whatever the reason, MU still played badly. And whatever the problem, the club must find the core problem as soon as possible and solve it. It is hoped that several new players brought in in the transfer market can bring positive changes. And I think we have to be patient and wait for this team to prove whether they will still be bad or will improve, albeit slowly. Usually Ten Hag makes MU better from the middle of the season.

[bounceback]

With all the conditions that exist at the MU club, it is not realistic to expect MU to compete for the title. All that can be expected from MU is to be able to get UCL tickets. But they can do it not only from the EPL. but MU also has a big opportunity by having to win the European League title. Ten Hag is increasingly doubtful at the moment. although the MU club does have several core players who are injured and unfortunately the ones who suffer the most injuries are their back line. And all of that makes MU really weak in defense at the moment.

I don't think easily for Manchester United to secure UEFA Champion League spot regarding their inconsistent performance in last four matches. Have 2 loss of 3 matches and only one winning result I don't think easy for Manchester United how to secure top fourth standings place because will face many top opponent teams in this season.
I doubt with Manchester United tactician recently Erik ten Hag after bad performing last season but management keep defend him become the manager for this season.
Now Manchester United on poor performance although still the early but must improve performance if want get opportunity keep in the tittle race or get Champion League spot.

[pawel7777]

What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season? Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed. So far they have one lost game to Man City, one impressive away win over Wolves (6-2) and a home draw against Crystal Palace, which was a bit disappointing, considering how dominating Chelsea was and how many good scoring chances they were able to create.
I still think that replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a risky and unnecessary move. Maresca only ever managed 2 clubs before and his managerial career started only in 2021. But maybe I'm wrong and maybe new, inexperienced managers are more hungry and willing to put in extra work for the club. I guess the time will tell.

[Sim_card]

With all the conditions that exist at the MU club, it is not realistic to expect MU to compete for the title. All that can be expected from MU is to be able to get UCL tickets. But they can do it not only from the EPL. but MU also has a big opportunity by having to win the European League title. Ten Hag is increasingly doubtful at the moment. although the MU club does have several core players who are injured and unfortunately the ones who suffer the most injuries are their back line. And all of that makes MU really weak in defense at the moment.

I don't think easily for Manchester United to secure UEFA Champion League spot regarding their inconsistent performance in last four matches. Have 2 loss of 3 matches and only one winning result I don't think easy for Manchester United how to secure top fourth standings place because will face many top opponent teams in this season.
I doubt with Manchester United tactician recently Erik ten Hag after bad performing last season but management keep defend him become the manager for this season.
Now Manchester United on poor performance although still the early but must improve performance if want get opportunity keep in the tittle race or get Champion League spot.

It is impossible because they is no guarantee that their performance will improve as time goes on. Eric Hag did not know how to manage these players and bring out the best from them if not he should have done thay by now. So I don't expect any miracle happening this season like it did last season in FA Cup. A bad start for United this season and no one expected it.

[JoyMarsha]

So, as expected by many, Man United got destroyed in front of its own audience by Liverpool.
To be fair, I expected a draw or a minimal win by either team by one goal, but 3-0 is not a good look for Ten Hag.
To give justice to Man Utd, they had some scoring chances of their own and slightly led in possession, and two of the lost goals could be blamed on Casemiro, who pretty much just gave the ball away to Gravenberch in their own half and got nudged off the ball by Diaz for the second. Nevertheless, the problem with goal scoring continues since last season and even Ten Hag admitted that expecting Man United to win the trophy this season is unrealistic.
I'd say, they'll be lucky to finish in the top 5.

Ah nice of him to not set high expectations this season but it might work against him and the team's mindset too. It's more competitive than the score suggests but more of these results and he'll more likely to be booted out of the club even after signing a new contract a few months ago.

With all the conditions that exist at the MU club, it is not realistic to expect MU to compete for the title. All that can be expected from MU is to be able to get UCL tickets. But they can do it not only from the EPL. but MU also has a big opportunity by having to win the European League title. Ten Hag is increasingly doubtful at the moment. although the MU club does have several core players who are injured and unfortunately the ones who suffer the most injuries are their back line. And all of that makes MU really weak in defense at the moment.

One of the Manchester United defenders "Casemiro, has been advised to resign from football before football leaves him. I think that's what he is experiencing from football(football leaving him) because the two goals scored against Manchester United were all caused by him. That kind of mistake shouldn't have happened when Casemiro was fit as a defender.

Manchester United should think of what to do in their defense line because it's obvious that their defense is weak. The defender they are looking up to is getting weak by the day and he's losing himself in football due to age

[Rruchi man]

One of the Manchester United defenders "Casemiro, has been advised to resign from football before football leaves him. I think that's what he is experiencing from football(football leaving him) because the two goals scored against Manchester United were all caused by him. That kind of mistake shouldn't have happened when Casemiro was fit as a defender.

The solution that Manchester United coach has is to keep him more on the bench and give other players the opportunity to play in his position. That will definitely be something that the coach will consider doing as Manuel Ugarte has joined them.

Manchester United also lost that game because of Rashford's poor form and the coaches decision to start him in such a game where he has Amad that would have allowed Garnacho to play in that position where Rashford played that he loves and is most effective. Amad should have been in the starting eleven; he has been one of United's best players this season.

[sampoerna]

What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season? Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed. So far they have one lost game to Man City, one impressive away win over Wolves (6-2) and a home draw against Crystal Palace, which was a bit disappointing, considering how dominating Chelsea was and how many good scoring chances they were able to create.
I still think that replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a risky and unnecessary move. Maresca only ever managed 2 clubs before and his managerial career started only in 2021. But maybe I'm wrong and maybe new, inexperienced managers are more hungry and willing to put in extra work for the club. I guess the time will tell.

There are some opinions about Chelsea:
1. They bought too many players, like they are collecting mediocre players at the club by wasting a lot of money. and not focusing on some really top players.

2. It seems like to be as usual, sometimes Chelsea's performance is very good, but sometimes it's really bad. Their consistency is still quite bad. If they can be consistent to stay that good, at least, this will be better than last season.

3. Chelsea's victory over wolves made us hope for a comeback in Chelsea, but it was dashed when they drew with Crystal Palace. Maybe they are not ready enough to face a fairly strong team.

[Tribalchief]

There are some opinions about Chelsea:
1. They bought too many players, like they are collecting mediocre players at the club by wasting a lot of money. and not focusing on some really top players.

2. It seems like to be as usual, sometimes Chelsea's performance is very good, but sometimes it's really bad. Their consistency is still quite bad. If they can be consistent to stay that good, at least, this will be better than last season.

3. Chelsea's victory over wolves made us hope for a comeback in Chelsea, but it was dashed when they drew with Crystal Palace. Maybe they are not ready enough to face a fairly strong team.

When Todd Boehly took over Chelsea, and began purchasing young players, I was expecting that he actually wanted to rebuild the team afresh, but it turns out that he wants the club to keep moving with same old momentum as at the time Roman Abrahimovic. If you are bringing new players with talents but zero premier league experience, you give them time to understand themselves as a team. As it stands, the Chelsea's attack is gradually merging, but the midfield and defence are still behind. So many of those players still have the potential, which means there is room for improvement, but the pressure on them is really demanding.

As for the games against wolves, I knew it was a game of false hope, because Chelsea usually find it tough against some underdogs like palace, fulham, Brighton, etc.  Palace is actually a team that I am looking forward to watching this season, seeing the number of players they've signed. I knew the Chelsea game against them was going to end in a draw, and it did. I also want to do a follow up on Chalobah because I see massive potential in him.

[bounceback]

What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season? Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed. So far they have one lost game to Man City, one impressive away win over Wolves (6-2) and a home draw against Crystal Palace, which was a bit disappointing, considering how dominating Chelsea was and how many good scoring chances they were able to create.
I still think that replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a risky and unnecessary move. Maresca only ever managed 2 clubs before and his managerial career started only in 2021. But maybe I'm wrong and maybe new, inexperienced managers are more hungry and willing to put in extra work for the club. I guess the time will tell.

There are some opinions about Chelsea:
1. They bought too many players, like they are collecting mediocre players at the club by wasting a lot of money. and not focusing on some really top players.

2. It seems like to be as usual, sometimes Chelsea's performance is very good, but sometimes it's really bad. Their consistency is still quite bad. If they can be consistent to stay that good, at least, this will be better than last season.

3. Chelsea's victory over wolves made us hope for a comeback in Chelsea, but it was dashed when they drew with Crystal Palace. Maybe they are not ready enough to face a fairly strong team.

Clearly all your points are correct, Chelsea's management looks still kids how easily buying players with underrate values and give them long term contract. Chelsea become the only one Premier League team have many players in their squad recently 7 goals keeper although Kepa loan to Bournemouth.
I think Chelsea need to sell any players not including in Enzo Maresca tactician, its waste much money if not in main squad and Chelsea be effective when signing new players recommended from head coach. Chelsea performance still inconsistent with the winning trend and upcoming match later got loss or being draw.

[koang]

What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season? Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed. So far they have one lost game to Man City, one impressive away win over Wolves (6-2) and a home draw against Crystal Palace, which was a bit disappointing, considering how dominating Chelsea was and how many good scoring chances they were able to create.
I still think that replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a risky and unnecessary move. Maresca only ever managed 2 clubs before and his managerial career started only in 2021. But maybe I'm wrong and maybe new, inexperienced managers are more hungry and willing to put in extra work for the club. I guess the time will tell.

Finish in the top 4? I have no expectations for Maresca. The Bar Is too low, but Chelsea must work!
Poch has prepared the cook so Maresca can feed the team but No one hypes him now, Chelsea didn't perform as expected.
It's sad to see all the excitement about player transfers at Chelsea without making a good impact on the game
I doubt Maresca will be able to find the best playing style for Chelsea. Maresca was only a trial coach due to a recruiting error.
He won't be able to overachieve like Poch