[Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread

[Foden]

A little behind schedule for the Manchester United vs Tottenham match.

After seeing Bruno's red card stats what did he do? Did he tackle him? Despite the early goal from Tottenham.

I have to watch this match in the second half, about how Manchester United will continue to be pressured from the Spurs attack.

If they lose at home, Manchester United will be at a lot of disadvantages by being behind points from other teams.

What a bummer it is if Man U loses the game. They are defeated at home in the encounter. Tottenham performed incredibly well, taking advantage of many of the opportunities presented to them while also losing several. Garnacho had a terrific attacking performance, but it seemed like goals didn't want him or the squad, but they had to make the necessary adjustments.

[Sim_card]

A little behind schedule for the Manchester United vs Tottenham match.

After seeing Bruno's red card stats what did he do? Did he tackle him? Despite the early goal from Tottenham.

I have to watch this match in the second half, about how Manchester United will continue to be pressured from the Spurs attack.

If they lose at home, Manchester United will be at a lot of disadvantages by being behind points from other teams.

What a bummer it is if Man U loses the game. They are defeated at home in the encounter. Tottenham performed incredibly well, taking advantage of many of the opportunities presented to them while also losing several. Garnacho had a terrific attacking performance, but it seemed like goals didn't want him or the squad, but they had to make the necessary adjustments.

A poor performance from United today because they lack a good coach and Ten Hag cannot improve the performance of the team because he has no game strategy and is always trying his luck onbthevfield to see if he will be able to win the matches. Unfortunately, when you are not strong, it shows very clear based on the team performance and the results of their matches since football is not what you can win by chance when the team is not in a good form compared to your opponent. Old Trafford has no respect anymore as it has turned more to be a home of defeat.

[Zed0X]

With a bad beat like that, it's not surprising to see another round of calls for ETH's firing or resignation. The rumor is that Man U already looking for 3 names as replacement. Whoever gave the nod for his extension must be feeling ashamed right now😅

[MainIbem]

With a bad beat like that, it's not surprising to see another round of calls for ETH's firing or resignation. The rumor is that Man U already looking for 3 names as replacement. Whoever gave the nod for his extension must be feeling ashamed right now😅

I think the person that pardoned him for an extention was impressed with the win against Manchester City in the FA Cup final and thought that there would be improvement since they've recruited new players and sold the ones they didn't see as worthy of wearing the badge. Well, any coach that's been backed by their board as Manchester United board have backed Erik Ten Hag, is expected to succeed but I wonder why his own case is different it shows that he's out of idea and to be honest if I was the person who made that call of him being pardoned for another season I'll not only be ashamed but disappointed with such terrible performances, today's lose against Twente is understandable but drawing against Twente is a big disgrace to the fans.

[ALTdetectoR]

I think the person that pardoned him for an extention was impressed with the win against Manchester City in the FA Cup final and thought that there would be improvement since they've recruited new players and sold the ones they didn't see as worthy of wearing the badge. Well, any coach that's been backed by their board as Manchester United board have backed Erik Ten Hag, is expected to succeed but I wonder why his own case is different it shows that he's out of idea and to be honest if I was the person who made that call of him being pardoned for another season I'll not only be ashamed but disappointed with such terrible performances, today's lose against Twente is understandable but drawing against Twente is a big disgrace to the fans.

In conclusion, it is quite simple: ETH is not the coach that was hoped for, but the management of MU always believes that a small stone can become a great gold.  Lol 
ETH is not a great coach, but he can't see which players have quality talent, and he is one of those selfish coaches. Calculate how many quality players have conflicts with ETH, like Ronaldo and Jadon Sancho.  Even De Gea, the best goalkeeper with great reflexes, was replaced by Onana.
But Bruno Fernandes who is no longer worthy of MU that Ten Hag insists on keeping.

 It's really quite funny how the management and coaches of MU are right now.

[bounceback]

In conclusion, it is quite simple: ETH is not the coach that was hoped for, but the management of MU always believes that a small stone can become a great gold.  Lol 
ETH is not a great coach, but he can't see which players have quality talent, and he is one of those selfish coaches. Calculate how many quality players have conflicts with ETH, like Ronaldo and Jadon Sancho.  Even De Gea, the best goalkeeper with great reflexes, was replaced by Onana.
But Bruno Fernandes who is no longer worthy of MU that Ten Hag insists on keeping.

 It's really quite funny how the management and coaches of MU are right now.

Last season is the right moment for sacking Erik ten Hag from his position after first time failure for Manchester United get finish on 8th position place, but management keep trust him and appointed Erik ten Hag for one season later and right now his poor tactician really happening after Manchester United loss 3 of 6 matches. Have many top opponent teams face upcoming matches later and its not too late for management sack him before get difficult reach the UEFA Champion League spot standings for next season.
How Manchester United fans keep patience their teams managing by Erik ten Hag and there are not any word of ETH Out?

[Mayajal]

The biggest weakness of the Manchester United team is the coach of the team, the coach of the team, Eric Ten Haag, has been ruling this team for a long time.  Being in this team for a long time has not improved the team but has caused more damage, you can see that Manchester City was very good last season but this season comes with even worse performance.  Scored three goals with the Tottenham team.

[babo]

The biggest weakness of the Manchester United team is the coach of the team, the coach of the team, Eric Ten Haag, has been ruling this team for a long time.  Being in this team for a long time has not improved the team but has caused more damage, you can see that Manchester City was very good last season but this season comes with even worse performance.  Scored three goals with the Tottenham team.

I am a person who prefers stability, a stable team is a team that works in the long run.
If after a long time, nothing works, then there is something wrong, and it can be anything from the player who creates disagreement, to the athletic trainer or the coach.
If they don't look for the reason, they will never fix anything.
In my opinion you are right, probably the weakness is the coach.

[Nheer]

What a bummer it is if Man U loses the game. They are defeated at home in the encounter. Tottenham performed incredibly well, taking advantage of many of the opportunities presented to them while also losing several. Garnacho had a terrific attacking performance, but it seemed like goals didn't want him or the squad, but they had to make the necessary adjustments.

They lost the match which is a very disappointing result for them, losing at Od Trafford now seem like the usual thing now. We don’t know there performance have not been improving for a while now despite signing in new players every season, the coach needs to be questioned in my opinion because it seems he is not managing the players well as he should.

Garnacho was the best player for United yesterday but all his efforts couldn’t yield anything because Tottenham defense was rock solid and the red card also affected United as well but they still need to work hard and improve their game.

[Millionaire]

The biggest weakness of the Manchester United team is the coach of the team, the coach of the team, Eric Ten Haag, has been ruling this team for a long time.  Being in this team for a long time has not improved the team but has caused more damage, you can see that Manchester City was very good last season but this season comes with even worse performance.  Scored three goals with the Tottenham team.

I am a person who prefers stability, a stable team is a team that works in the long run.
If after a long time, nothing works, then there is something wrong, and it can be anything from the player who creates disagreement, to the athletic trainer or the coach.
If they don't look for the reason, they will never fix anything.
In my opinion you are right, probably the weakness is the coach.

But in fact the team management is still giving time to coach Erik Ten Hag and they believe that one day Erik Ten Hag can make the team find its best version again, who knows how long they will continue to wait even though it is clear that this coach has not been able to provide good results for more than 3 seasons and the team management should have fired him a long time ago rather than keeping him for a long time because it would only be a waste of time.

[giammangiato]

Team	Point
Liverpool	15
Man. City	14
Arsenal	14
Chelsea	13
Aston Villa	13
Fulham	11
Newcastle	11
Tottenham	10
Brighton	9
Nottingham Forest	9
Brentford	7
Man. United	7
Bournemouth	5
West Ham	5
Ipswich Town	4
Everton	4
Leicester	3
Crystal Palace	3
Southampton	1
Wolves	1

Close fight for first place! I am really curious to see how it evolves. Leicester increasingly in crisis with 3 points

[babo]

Manchester United is also in crisis. He only has 7 points and is at the bottom of the table
It's been years now since he's risen to important positions and I'm a little disappointed about this, I loved Manchester United in the days of Giggs and others
Giggs was one of my favorites among other things, of the red furies

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Giggs

[JoyMarsha]

Manchester United is also in crisis. He only has 7 points and is at the bottom of the table
It's been years now since he's risen to important positions and I'm a little disappointed about this, I loved Manchester United in the days of Giggs and others
Giggs was one of my favorites among other things, of the red furies

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Giggs

The common crisis-dwelling in Manchester United for a long time is finding the right coach, the moment that is done, I believe the crisis will be minimized.

Manchester United has been in a difficult position to find the right coach since Sir Alex Ferguson's retirement. It all seems that there's no better replacement since then to take Manchester United to the dream heights of winning the PL title once again. Ten Hag who was given another opportunity instead of sacking him last season, is making the crisis in the team persist, not like something that is stopping very soon.

[Tribalchief]

Manchester United is also in crisis. He only has 7 points and is at the bottom of the table
It's been years now since he's risen to important positions and I'm a little disappointed about this, I loved Manchester United in the days of Giggs and others
Giggs was one of my favorites among other things, of the red furies

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Giggs

The common crisis-dwelling in Manchester United for a long time is finding the right coach, the moment that is done, I believe the crisis will be minimized.

Manchester United has been in a difficult position to find the right coach since Sir Alex Ferguson's retirement. It all seems that there's no better replacement since then to take Manchester United to the dream heights of winning the PL title once again. Ten Hag who was given another opportunity instead of sacking him last season, is making the crisis in the team persist, not like something that is stopping very soon.

Right coach?, Well I am not sure of how that works, except everyone that takes a managerial/coaching job is like the sir Alex Ferguson you mentioned, or maybe pep, and will able to create massive /long term impact for the club. Before ten hag came to United, I told a united fan that he was a very good coach at Ajax, so I believe he will do well at united considering the quality of players they were having. Let's be honest, his first season wasn't too bad at all. At least, we can give him a 70% out of 100%. Things started falling apart the following season, until we got to this moment.

United should not try to act like Chelsea that likes sacking and replacing their managers almost every season. We have to understand that sometimes, every manager won't have a sweet beginning, even though the beginning looks convincing. If we are to look at Mikel arteta who has been in charge of arsenal for more than 5years now, then you will know that ten hag also share similar experience with him. Arteta joined arsenal sometime around December 2019(if I am not mistaken), and went on to win the FA cup and community shield. The rest 2-3 seasons became a nightmare for the club and the fans, as they finished 8th twice(back to back). But was he sacked ?, No.

Even with Arsenal's recent performance from 2 seasons ago, they have still failed to win a major trophy, but Arteta was never sacked because they believe they will some day.

So the entire idea of sacking ten had might not be the solution. If a manager could get to two finals of a competition, and won both, then is that not a sign?. I just feel that ten hag lacks some coach to player relationship, which he will definitely learn with time.

[sampoerna]

Manchester United is also in crisis. He only has 7 points and is at the bottom of the table
It's been years now since he's risen to important positions and I'm a little disappointed about this, I loved Manchester United in the days of Giggs and others
Giggs was one of my favorites among other things, of the red furies

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Giggs

Yes, right now, they are competing with West Ham and Brentford to get a higher place in the standings. Is it possible? If Ten Hag can handle it and make the situation better, maybe. But is it really possible? As we see, when playing against small clubs, they lose, against middle teams, they also lose, and especially against top teams, they also lose.

I know it's still early in the season so there are still many chances. And there are still many people who support Ten Hag to stay at Man United and give him a longer chance for Man United. But how long will it take? But it seems that Man United has not thought about going there, and they are still united to do it.