[Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread

[koang]

I participated in the Premier Leagues voting on who will win the 2024/2025. With over 7,300 participants, Arsenal took the slight lead with 37% followed by Liverpool with 31%. The defending champ City at a distant third with 16%. I voted for Arsenal as well but not for a technical reason, I just thought that maybe they deserve it this time after coming close in previous seasons.

Meanwhile, in our forum voting (17 total votes), City has a commanding lead with 64+% over their rival Arsenal with 29+%

I am part of that 29%
Arsenal voters are the majority in the Premier League voting you participated in but the minority in the forum. So is this Arsenal's season?
However, only 16% of voters chose City which surprised me, their performance so far has been quite impressive, scoring 17 goals in 7 games but it seems their defense is still not optimal, as well as Arsenal's, only Liverpool among the top three has a good defense.

[Gurujebs]

I am part of that 29%
Arsenal voters are the majority in the Premier League voting you participated in but the minority in the forum. So is this Arsenal's season?
However, only 16% of voters chose City which surprised me, their performance so far has been quite impressive, scoring 17 goals in 7 games but it seems their defense is still not optimal, as well as Arsenal's, only Liverpool among the top three has a good defense.

It's actually 66% for Manchester City and not 16% for them. I think at this rate, Manchester City has monopolized Premier League that it's too obvious they are the one that are going to win this season trophy, I don't care if their defense is weak, other teams afe weak as well but one thing I love about their forward is that they don't joke with goals.

If Arsenal are going to be the favorite of this season, by now they would have be at the top of the table waiting to win the next game instead of Liverpool but they are right under Manchester City and nothing will change it until everyone is back from the international break.

[koang]

I am part of that 29%
Arsenal voters are the majority in the Premier League voting you participated in but the minority in the forum. So is this Arsenal's season?
However, only 16% of voters chose City which surprised me, their performance so far has been quite impressive, scoring 17 goals in 7 games but it seems their defense is still not optimal, as well as Arsenal's, only Liverpool among the top three has a good defense.

It's actually 66% for Manchester City and not 16% for them. I think at this rate, Manchester City has monopolized Premier League that it's too obvious they are the one that are going to win this season trophy, I don't care if their defense is weak, other teams afe weak as well but one thing I love about their forward is that they don't joke with goals.

If Arsenal are going to be the favorite of this season, by now they would have be at the top of the table waiting to win the next game instead of Liverpool but they are right under Manchester City and nothing will change it until everyone is back from the international break.

Please read carefully, and check my quote above...
This is just a voting, there is no guarantee that the voting winner will win the title at the end of the season, this is just for fun, so relax... don't take it too seriously.

Check the table, the gap points between Liverpool, City, and Arsenal are very tight, which indicates that the three teams still have an equal chance of winning the title. IMO

[sampoerna]

Yup, it often happens and there is no very save position to not get the possibility of injury. That's why every player is equipped with high physical abilities too, but still, it will not be that perfect to not get injured. Well, now, time for some players to get a longer rest from matches in the League, because not all players follow the national team. and this is good for restoring their energy, especially for those who are indeed less fit because of the tight match schedule so far especially in Europe.

This international break is indeed an opportunity for players who are not called up to the national team to restore their condition to a better condition. When the league starts again they will be fully prepared.

Although they may get a holiday, they must still maintain their condition with the portion that has been set by the coach or they add training portions according to their abilities.

Actually, even though they do not participate in the national team match, they usually do not get a holiday either. However, this time is used for full recovery or training. Like some Real Madrid players who also do personal training in the past few days, still with their discipline, such as Mbappe, Curtouis who just came back from injury, and several other players who did not participate in international matches. But of course, training is much calmer and not as tiring as participating in matches like that.

[Uruhara]

Talking about Liverpool, it seems like Arne Slot really knows how to continue the work that Jurgen Klopp has inherited in the Liverpool squad. Even Arne Slot was able to make several improvements that were slightly better than before. And yes, it's no mistake that we can start to have high hopes for Liverpool this season. Both in the Premier League and in the Champions League. And it looks like Liverpool was lucky to get a good replacement after Klopp left. And Arne slot is also lucky because he can become a coach at a club that already has a balanced squad that has been built by Klopp. So he just had to continue and make a few small touches to make it more optimal.

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Yes, for teams that do not have to send their players to play for the national team, they will be calmer because they do not have to worry when their players return injured.

However, on the other hand, the players certainly really want to defend the national team, it will be a source of pride for them to be able to defend their country. Especially if it is in a very prestigious event such as the World Cup or World Cup qualification for example.

yeah, that's the situation. On the one hand, clubs will feel calm if their players do not go to defend their respective national teams because they do not need to worry about their players getting injured while playing for the national team. But on the one hand, these players might feel a little sad because they can't represent their national team. But there are several players who voluntarily do not want to go to play for their national team. One reason could be because they want to recover after an injury. In several international breaks we always see several players returning to the club injured. and actually that's a normal thing. But for teams that are struggling to win titles in the domestic league or other big leagues, they must avoid this condition. They must do their best to keep their players fit and avoid injury.

It's a different story when players reject the national team call because they are injured and have to recover from their injuries. And in some cases there are also players who ignore the national team call because they are on vacation. But this is a rare case.

Because every player who is called up by the national team will usually be enthusiastic, because maybe for them it is the point where their best game is to successfully penetrate the national team which is very difficult.

[Rruchi man]

Talking about Liverpool, it seems like Arne Slot really knows how to continue the work that Jurgen Klopp has inherited in the Liverpool squad. Even Arne Slot was able to make several improvements that were slightly better than before. And yes, it's no mistake that we can start to have high hopes for Liverpool this season. Both in the Premier League and in the Champions League.

Arne Slot has had a better start to the Premier League than Klopp did, but regardless of this good start, it is difficult to imagine a manager just coming into the Premier League where we still have Pep and Arteta battling out to just come win the league. I reason that at some point in his run in the Premier League this season, Liverpool will begin to decline in performance and drop points. Overall performance will be good this season, but I do not think they would be able to win the League.

[Sim_card]

Talking about Liverpool, it seems like Arne Slot really knows how to continue the work that Jurgen Klopp has inherited in the Liverpool squad. Even Arne Slot was able to make several improvements that were slightly better than before. And yes, it's no mistake that we can start to have high hopes for Liverpool this season. Both in the Premier League and in the Champions League.

Arne Slot has had a better start to the Premier League than Klopp did, but regardless of this good start, it is difficult to imagine a manager just coming into the Premier League where we still have Pep and Arteta battling out to just come win the league. I reason that at some point in his run in the Premier League this season, Liverpool will begin to decline in performance and drop points. Overall performance will be good this season, but I do not think they would be able to win the League.

Nothing is impossible if you have the players and experience in the coaching field. I will not doubt that Liverpool is incapable of doing it, because they are big and strong team in EPL. Some years back, Leicester City came from relegation and win EPL, in the presence of Guardiola, Arsene Wenger and other good coaches. It will only be history for Slot and a remarkable day for him and Liverpool. The strongest club will always win either the coach came from nowhere or have being in the league for long.

[pawel7777]

Matchday 8 odds for all games:

Tottenham Hotspur x1.52; Draw x4.75; West Ham United x5.50
Fulham x2.45; Draw x3.50; Aston Villa FC x2.80
Ipswich Town x2.40; Draw x3.33; Everton x3.00
Manchester United x1.71; Draw x4.25; Brentford x4.33
Newcastle United x2.00; Draw x3.80; Brighton & Hove Albion x3.50
Southampton x2.33; Draw x3.60; Leicester City x2.90
Bournemouth x4.75; Draw x4.00; Arsenal FC x1.70
Wolverhampton Wanderers x7.50; Draw x5.66; Manchester City x1.33
Liverpool FC x1.69; Draw x4.20; Chelsea x4.33
Nottingham Forest x2.28; Draw x3.33; Crystal Palace x3.10

The biggest game of this round surely is Liverpool Vs Chelsea. The bookies don't have much hope in Chelsea grabbing a win, but I think it's possible. Liverpool has already lost at home this season to Nottm Forest. Chelsea is a bit inconsistent, but on a good day, they are really dangerous. Betting on Chelsea or maybe a double chance bet could be a good idea.

[sampoerna]

The biggest game of this round surely is Liverpool Vs Chelsea. The bookies don't have much hope in Chelsea grabbing a win, but I think it's possible. Liverpool has already lost at home this season to Nottm Forest. Chelsea is a bit inconsistent, but on a good day, they are really dangerous. Betting on Chelsea or maybe a double chance bet could be a good idea.

Currently, Chelsea's performance is sometimes quite good, it's just that their consistency is still not that strong. They do have Cole Palmer who is currently very popular in the football world because of his achievements. However, this is a club, and sometimes Chelsea club cannot be that optimal in competing. Oh yeah, Liverpool is also sometimes inconsistent, but at least not as bad as Chelsea. A draw might be the best result. But of course both clubs want to win. I think, I will still hold Liverpool to win here, although it certainly won't be that easy.

[bounceback]

Currently, Chelsea's performance is sometimes quite good, it's just that their consistency is still not that strong. They do have Cole Palmer who is currently very popular in the football world because of his achievements. However, this is a club, and sometimes Chelsea club cannot be that optimal in competing. Oh yeah, Liverpool is also sometimes inconsistent, but at least not as bad as Chelsea. A draw might be the best result. But of course both clubs want to win. I think, I will still hold Liverpool to win here, although it certainly won't be that easy.

Cole Palmer scored 6 goals of 7 appearance in Premier League and success creating 5 assists, under Enzo Maresca put him as attacking midfielder than left or right winger position and its really work with new position for him after having impressive performance. I think Cole Palmer would be big problem for Liverpool on upcoming match both team will face each other in this week, after international break seems Cole Palmer already for fighting to secure three points for Chelsea have good performance recently and the blues lead the top fourth standings position awhile.

My prediction Liverpool have bigger opportunity for winning the match because get most consistent performance than Chelsea at all competition.

[Tribalchief]

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Cole Palmer scored 6 goals of 7 appearance in Premier League and success creating 5 assists, under Enzo Maresca put him as attacking midfielder than left or right winger position and its really work with new position for him after having impressive performance. I think Cole Palmer would be big problem for Liverpool on upcoming match both team will face each other in this week, after international break seems Cole Palmer already for fighting to secure three points for Chelsea have good performance recently and the blues lead the top fourth standings position awhile.

My prediction Liverpool have bigger opportunity for winning the match because get most consistent performance than Chelsea at all competition.

Chelsea has been really great this season, and it shows that maresca is doing great. But I don't think that they are ready to face any big teams now. Out of about six big teams, they've only played City, and we all saw the result even though Chelsea dominated the game to some extent. I'm not sure if Chelsea will be able to play against a fast moving side like Liverpool this weekend. And I think Liverpool will make a good use of Chelsea's LB, because there is no way cucurella can mark Salah in a 1V1.

I've been impressed with Chelsea so far, but to be honest, I don't see this game going their way.

[Uruhara]

Talking about Liverpool, it seems like Arne Slot really knows how to continue the work that Jurgen Klopp has inherited in the Liverpool squad. Even Arne Slot was able to make several improvements that were slightly better than before. And yes, it's no mistake that we can start to have high hopes for Liverpool this season. Both in the Premier League and in the Champions League.

Arne Slot has had a better start to the Premier League than Klopp did, but regardless of this good start, it is difficult to imagine a manager just coming into the Premier League where we still have Pep and Arteta battling out to just come win the league. I reason that at some point in his run in the Premier League this season, Liverpool will begin to decline in performance and drop points. Overall performance will be good this season, but I do not think they would be able to win the League.

Yeah right. That could happen. And if that happens, it's actually something that usually happens every season. It's rare to get through a full season without experiencing a downturn. because usually there are some problems in the middle of the season. Either because several players are injured or because the busy match schedule makes the players tired and reduces their performance. Yes, but for now Liverpool is extraordinary with Slots. although we don't know how long this will last.

[ajiz138]

Yeah right. That could happen. And if that happens, it's actually something that usually happens every season. It's rare to get through a full season without experiencing a downturn. because usually there are some problems in the middle of the season. Either because several players are injured or because the busy match schedule makes the players tired and reduces their performance. Yes, but for now Liverpool is extraordinary with Slots. although we don't know how long this will last.

The ups and downs of performance experienced by a team are something common, very rare and I don't even know if there is a team with perfect wins in one season, what I know is those who have not experienced defeat and only felt a draw.

A draw for a team that has good performance in the season is a decline in my opinion. However, the decline they experienced was not that significant, or in other words they could still handle it by getting a draw.

[pawel7777]

There's some outrage going on regarding Man United terminating club's ambassador contract with Alex Ferguson:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c756g142gdxo
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-united-players-sent-sir-30165232

I think this news might have been blown out of proportion. Alex Ferguson was getting £2.165 million (~$2.82m) for his role as the clubs ambassador, but we all know at the age of 82, he's not very active in actually undertaking any promotional activities. It's possible that the club and Alex mutually agreed to terminate that contract.
What he was getting paid was around the average salary of Premier League players, and knowing Man United are not doing very well and there's a big chance they won't qualify for any European cups next season and will likely lose a lot of revenue from merchandise sales, they can't really afford to be throwing money around and need to start looking for savings.

Alex Ferguson will still remain as a non-executive director of the club, and he probably doesn't really need any more money than he already has.