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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2385 on: November 14, 2024, 09:28:00 AM »
Currently I am sure the club does not expect that Man United will improve rapidly with Ruud. And maybe if Amorim fails to bring positive changes to Man United then Ruud could be called back here and get a better contract and not just be a temporary coach. Because I feel Ruud deserves to be a coach who has a long contract at MU. Because we can see its performance now, which is very good. But hopefully Amorim can also bring good changes.

I think no one expected Ruud to deliver such result. Played about four game's if I remembered correctly, and didn't lose any. Got the first Europa league win this season (what ten hag failed to do). It is very impossible for him to work with Amorim, considering what he has done, and what he knows he can do.

I'm not sure if United will be opportune to get him, if eventually things doesn't work well with Amorim. I believe a club will be very quick in signing Ruud as soon as possible, probably before the end of the January transfer window.
Even though Man United could make Ruud an interim coach until the end of the season. But Man United seems to have been impressed with Amorim from the start. Because the approach taken also runs very quickly and smoothly. But Amorim was also a great coach at Sporting. But we don't know whether he will still be a great coach when he comes to a big club like MU.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2386 on: November 14, 2024, 10:34:59 AM »
Manchester City have two difficult opponent teams two consecutive matches in domestic league after international break, firstly have to focus at Champion League match and Man City must secure three points when facing Tottenham Hotspur and Liverpool in premier league matches.
This month is quite a bad month for Man City, even though they said they will soon turn things around, but looking at their opponents in November, it will still be difficult for them. Tottenham is their opponent who beat them in the EFL match, Man City will face Tottenham in the EPL matchday 12. Then there is matchday 13, Man City will face Liverpool, their main enemy. That's why, whatever it is, Pep Guardiola must plan this carefully and not miss the big chance to win. Although we understand that Tottenham and Liverpool are not easy opponents to beat, especially Liverpool who are in the first position of the Premier League, this will be an exciting match.

A disappointing result in November. Pep hasn't done anything good since entered November but it's a long season and Setbacks are part of the journey. They had to regroup and keep fighting.
Tottenham and Liverpool are great teams but losing the games in a row does not mean they are better than City.
So I'm still confident that Pep will be able to bring City back to their feet after the international break.
I can't wait to see the Big match Liverpool vs City...

Btw I don’t know why City can’t have backup player transfers, new young players City has are good but they still need strong players.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2387 on: November 14, 2024, 08:22:52 PM »
I can't wait to see the Big match Liverpool vs City...
Most of the big games this season have ended in draws; I will not be surprised that that game ends in a draw as well. Liverpool have shown that against big teams, they are not as confident as they look against the small teams. Manchester City are not the strongest this season, but they will be able to match Liverpool player for player.

Arsenal have more bad news: Ben White has had knee surgery and will be out for some weeks.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2388 on: November 14, 2024, 08:40:44 PM »
I see there are many interesting discussions about Manchester United, yes it is a very natural thing when a team changes coaches, especially the team has the status of a big team in the English League.

Amorim will get a heavy burden, because all hopes are on his shoulders now, somehow he has to give his best for Manchester United. He must go through the adaptation process in a short time, that is his first task.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2389 on: November 14, 2024, 10:39:05 PM »
Currently I am sure the club does not expect that Man United will improve rapidly with Ruud. And maybe if Amorim fails to bring positive changes to Man United then Ruud could be called back here and get a better contract and not just be a temporary coach. Because I feel Ruud deserves to be a coach who has a long contract at MU. Because we can see its performance now, which is very good. But hopefully Amorim can also bring good changes.
Amorim stay as Manchester United coach will be judged till after the end of this season. If no positive changes are seen in the Manchester United team, Manchester United management will think of what to do next, to decide the fate of Amorim as Manchester United coach. Only when that comes, the suggestion of calling Ruud to have a permanent deal with Manchester United as their head coach will arise. Whether it is possible or not

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2390 on: November 14, 2024, 11:02:11 PM »
This month is quite a bad month for Man City, even though they said they will soon turn things around, but looking at their opponents in November, it will still be difficult for them. Tottenham is their opponent who beat them in the EFL match, Man City will face Tottenham in the EPL matchday 12. Then there is matchday 13, Man City will face Liverpool, their main enemy.
A disappointing result in November. Pep hasn't done anything good since entered November but it's a long season and Setbacks are part of the journey. They had to regroup and keep fighting.
Tottenham and Liverpool are great teams but losing the games in a row does not mean they are better than City.
So I'm still confident that Pep will be able to bring City back to their feet after the international break.
I can't wait to see the Big match Liverpool vs City...

Btw I don’t know why City can’t have backup player transfers, new young players City has are good but they still need strong players.
It will not be easy for Pep and the club to be in such a bad condition and they have to change. Man City is not Man United, hopefully they can get back to their best performance again. Even Man United are now in the process of getting back to their best performance, I am sure Pep can bring Man City to do it too.

Amorim stay as Manchester United coach will be judged till after the end of this season. If no positive changes are seen in the Manchester United team, Manchester United management will think of what to do next, to decide the fate of Amorim as Manchester United coach. Only when that comes, the suggestion of calling Ruud to have a permanent deal with Manchester United as their head coach will arise. Whether it is possible or not
Amorim will use the 3-4-3 system at Man United, it is likely like that and get used to Amorin's training pattern at the club. This may take time so we can't expect instant results in the near future. However, Amorim certainly has his own target so that he can make Man United much bigger, and also there is certainly a big pressure for Amorim and his assistants because they will definitely be compared to previous interim coaches. And this will always be a concern and at the same time a challenge for Amorim.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2391 on: November 15, 2024, 05:38:31 AM »
Amorim stay as Manchester United coach will be judged till after the end of this season. If no positive changes are seen in the Manchester United team, Manchester United management will think of what to do next, to decide the fate of Amorim as Manchester United coach. Only when that comes, the suggestion of calling Ruud to have a permanent deal with Manchester United as their head coach will arise. Whether it is possible or not
Several upcoming matches later, Manchester United have easily opponent team and should Amorim secure or start his debut with the winning result. After appointing as manager and his first match face Ipswich Town as relegation team standing and must start well if want get intention from Manchester United fans.
Nistelrooy have over as interim manager and he leave Manchester United after not reach agreement for staying longer time as Amorim staff, maybe he want get another new club with his position as head coach looking his potential four consecutives matches with United without unbeaten and won 3 matches.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2392 on: November 15, 2024, 04:47:51 PM »
Currently I am sure the club does not expect that Man United will improve rapidly with Ruud. And maybe if Amorim fails to bring positive changes to Man United then Ruud could be called back here and get a better contract and not just be a temporary coach. Because I feel Ruud deserves to be a coach who has a long contract at MU. Because we can see its performance now, which is very good. But hopefully Amorim can also bring good changes.
Amorim stay as Manchester United coach will be judged till after the end of this season. If no positive changes are seen in the Manchester United team, Manchester United management will think of what to do next, to decide the fate of Amorim as Manchester United coach. Only when that comes, the suggestion of calling Ruud to have a permanent deal with Manchester United as their head coach will arise. Whether it is possible or not
Amorim will have a moral burden because with the interim coach, Manchester United can do even better. That makes us conclude that Amorim should be able to do the same thing, or even better.

Ruud Van Nistelrooy showed good things during his appointment as interim coach. Well, this can also be utilized by Amorim, I mean he can discuss with Nistelrooy what are the strengths and weaknesses that need to be fixed.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2393 on: November 15, 2024, 06:00:02 PM »
I can't wait to see the Big match Liverpool vs City...
Most of the big games this season have ended in draws; I will not be surprised that that game ends in a draw as well. Liverpool have shown that against big teams, they are not as confident as they look against the small teams. Manchester City are not the strongest this season, but they will be able to match Liverpool player for player.

Arsenal have more bad news: Ben White has had knee surgery and will be out for some weeks.

This match is a great opportunity for City to reduce the points gap, a draw is the same as losing.
Pep and the club have ambitions, the fans should be very disappointed if they travel to Liverpool and don't manage to win the game. They need results.
And we know, football is a game of results, a club doesn't get any points just for good performances.
Liverpool vs. Manchester City is to be a contrast in Premier League fortunes and I hope the underdogs keep it that way. :)

Injuries keep piling up. Everything that can go wrong for Arsenal has. Odegaard missed 12 matches too, Wishing him a speedy recovery...

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2394 on: November 15, 2024, 07:15:48 PM »
Currently I am sure the club does not expect that Man United will improve rapidly with Ruud. And maybe if Amorim fails to bring positive changes to Man United then Ruud could be called back here and get a better contract and not just be a temporary coach. Because I feel Ruud deserves to be a coach who has a long contract at MU. Because we can see its performance now, which is very good. But hopefully Amorim can also bring good changes.
Amorim stay as Manchester United coach will be judged till after the end of this season. If no positive changes are seen in the Manchester United team, Manchester United management will think of what to do next, to decide the fate of Amorim as Manchester United coach. Only when that comes, the suggestion of calling Ruud to have a permanent deal with Manchester United as their head coach will arise. Whether it is possible or not
Amorim will have a moral burden because with the interim coach, Manchester United can do even better. That makes us conclude that Amorim should be able to do the same thing, or even better.

Ruud Van Nistelrooy showed good things during his appointment as interim coach. Well, this can also be utilized by Amorim, I mean he can discuss with Nistelrooy what are the strengths and weaknesses that need to be fixed.
You have hit the hammer on the head of the nail. Since it's clear that the players are not the problem and Van Nistelrooy was able to win matches with them shows that they are ready to learn an improve their performance. So if Amorim comes in, he will continue from where Van Nistelrooy stopped and he will also get some vital information from Van Nistelrooy on how to go about the club performance and the players to strengthen the team.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2395 on: November 15, 2024, 09:04:18 PM »
Amorim stay as Manchester United coach will be judged till after the end of this season. If no positive changes are seen in the Manchester United team, Manchester United management will think of what to do next, to decide the fate of Amorim as Manchester United coach. Only when that comes, the suggestion of calling Ruud to have a permanent deal with Manchester United as their head coach will arise. Whether it is possible or not
Amorim will have a moral burden because with the interim coach, Manchester United can do even better. That makes us conclude that Amorim should be able to do the same thing, or even better.

Ruud Van Nistelrooy showed good things during his appointment as interim coach. Well, this can also be utilized by Amorim, I mean he can discuss with Nistelrooy what are the strengths and weaknesses that need to be fixed.
You have hit the hammer on the head of the nail. Since it's clear that the players are not the problem and Van Nistelrooy was able to win matches with them shows that they are ready to learn an improve their performance. So if Amorim comes in, he will continue from where Van Nistelrooy stopped and he will also get some vital information from Van Nistelrooy on how to go about the club performance and the players to strengthen the team.
Will that be possible for Amorim to choose to ask Van Nistelrooy how he goes about getting the better performance of Manchester United players? Even though that is a good idea, I think Van Nistelrooy would like to choose that path as the professional coach he is.

Before we think of the statement above, did Van Nistelrooy ask Ten Hag about what he had done wrong or what to be done to get Manchester United moving? We can say that Van Nistelrooy had that figured out by himself without asking for anyone's help on what to do. That's the same way it is expected of Amorim to study the Manchester United player's strengths and weaknesses. I believe he is doing that already, to study each Manchester United player with the matches they have played so far

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2396 on: November 15, 2024, 11:17:42 PM »
This match is a great opportunity for City to reduce the points gap, a draw is the same as losing.
Pep and the club have ambitions, the fans should be very disappointed if they travel to Liverpool and don't manage to win the game. They need results.
And we know, football is a game of results, a club doesn't get any points just for good performances.
Liverpool vs. Manchester City is to be a contrast in Premier League fortunes and I hope the underdogs keep it that way. :)

Injuries keep piling up. Everything that can go wrong for Arsenal has. Odegaard missed 12 matches too, Wishing him a speedy recovery...
Man City's position is still safe in the EPL runner-up position. but what you said is true, they must be able to get full 3 points in the match against Tottenham, because the next match against Liverpool, it will be very tough. that's why they have no choice but to win against Tottenham.

The distance between Man City and Liverpool is already at 5 points, while Arsenal and Chelsea who are below them are 4 points. if Man City cannot be that optimal against Tottenham, then they are at risk of being overtaken by their competitors. and this will not be good for their position in the EPL table.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2397 on: November 16, 2024, 05:10:32 AM »
Currently I am sure the club does not expect that Man United will improve rapidly with Ruud. And maybe if Amorim fails to bring positive changes to Man United then Ruud could be called back here and get a better contract and not just be a temporary coach. Because I feel Ruud deserves to be a coach who has a long contract at MU. Because we can see its performance now, which is very good. But hopefully Amorim can also bring good changes.
Amorim stay as Manchester United coach will be judged till after the end of this season. If no positive changes are seen in the Manchester United team, Manchester United management will think of what to do next, to decide the fate of Amorim as Manchester United coach. Only when that comes, the suggestion of calling Ruud to have a permanent deal with Manchester United as their head coach will arise. Whether it is possible or not
But it would be very bad for Man United if they continued to change coaches until next season. So I hope Amorim can fit in at Man United and make this team respected again in the Premier League. Because currently Man United no longer seems like a scary team for its opponents. Different from in the past. Usually the Man United club can always be more patient in watching the process. for example Ten Hag. And I think it will be the same for Amorim. Although the results are not that good. But as long as there is improvement, even if it's only a little, Amorim will probably continue to be given the opportunity for several seasons like Ten Hag.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2398 on: November 16, 2024, 02:00:29 PM »
Man City's position is still safe in the EPL runner-up position. but what you said is true, they must be able to get full 3 points in the match against Tottenham, because the next match against Liverpool, it will be very tough. that's why they have no choice but to win against Tottenham.

The distance between Man City and Liverpool is already at 5 points, while Arsenal and Chelsea who are below them are 4 points. if Man City cannot be that optimal against Tottenham, then they are at risk of being overtaken by their competitors. and this will not be good for their position in the EPL table.
Currently safe with Manchester City position standing at 2nd place but they have remaining many points left from Liverpool if loss upcoming match against Tottenham Hotspur, I don't think its good for Manchester City after losing four consecutives matches all competition and recently have two losses in premier league matches.
The Citizen must winning the match against Tottenham Hotspur if won't have many points gap with Liverpool upcoming match have easily opponent team against Southampton, recently Manchester City have 5 points left and would be bad for the premier league race if have many points left.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2399 on: November 16, 2024, 03:03:33 PM »
Amorim will have a moral burden because with the interim coach, Manchester United can do even better. That makes us conclude that Amorim should be able to do the same thing, or even better.

Ruud Van Nistelrooy showed good things during his appointment as interim coach. Well, this can also be utilized by Amorim, I mean he can discuss with Nistelrooy what are the strengths and weaknesses that need to be fixed.
You have hit the hammer on the head of the nail. Since it's clear that the players are not the problem and Van Nistelrooy was able to win matches with them shows that they are ready to learn an improve their performance. So if Amorim comes in, he will continue from where Van Nistelrooy stopped and he will also get some vital information from Van Nistelrooy on how to go about the club performance and the players to strengthen the team.
A good start but also a very stressful start for Amorim. Because I think when Amorim fails, the criticism he will receive will be even harsher than what Erik Ten Hag received.

But at this time I am quite optimistic that Amorim can handle it well. We just have to wait and see the touch he makes to the players. It should be noted that the players are not the problem as you say.

 

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