[Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread

[Sim_card]

It was really a disappointing match for Manchester United as the lost 0:3 to Bournemouth at the old Trafford this evening and their struggling form continue in the league, no body expected this kind of score line because Manchester united where expected to win at home to improve their cause in the league as they try to rebuild and come back to form and be in a good place before the end of the season so they can at least qualify for European competition next season but with this loss it's not a good one for team as they are not in a very good position currently in the league table

Arriving new manager Ruben Amorim still can't help Manchester United keep on the top performance, recently keep inconsistent performance after winning the last match from Manchester City and unbelievable today result after defeating by Bournemouth at home match.
Looks difficult reach the UEFA Europe League or Champion League spot standings in this season for Manchester United if still have consistent performance.

Maybe, we are expecting too much from a coach that's new in the club and is still trying to see the best strategy to use, and how he can get the players of his choice to fit into that plan. I wouldn't blame Amorim for anything until he gets the players of his choice. Winning City was a big relief because they are vulnerable this season.

[Agbe]

It was really a disappointing match for Manchester United as the lost 0:3 to Bournemouth at the old Trafford this evening and their struggling form continue in the league, no body expected this kind of score line because Manchester united where expected to win at home to improve their cause in the league as they try to rebuild and come back to form and be in a good place before the end of the season so they can at least qualify for European competition next season but with this loss it's not a good one for team as they are not in a very good position currently in the league table

Arriving new manager Ruben Amorim still can't help Manchester United keep on the top performance, recently keep inconsistent performance after winning the last match from Manchester City and unbelievable today result after defeating by Bournemouth at home match.
Looks difficult reach the UEFA Europe League or Champion League spot standings in this season for Manchester United if still have consistent performance.

Maybe, we are expecting too much from a coach that's new in the club and is still trying to see the best strategy to use, and how he can get the players of his choice to fit into that plan. I wouldn't blame Amorim for anything until he gets the players of his choice. Winning City was a big relief because they are vulnerable this season.

Yes currently speaking nobody can blame Amorim because he is just coming to the club with different players and squad with entirely different set of players and team all together so everyone needs to give Amorim the Benefits of the doubt and wait for a while until he gets the players of his choice so he can execute what is in his mind and bring his playing pattern and philosophy to the team because as of now he is only doing damage control with the players that he had currently as he is doing his best to make sure that Manchester United get the best results that they can.
I believe that united has already pen down players that they have in their interest and plan for the coming January window

[Zed0X]

Nottingham Forest barely made it out of the relegation zone last season but they are sitting at fourth place at the table now. They are almost guaranteed a spot for the next PL and maybe a European competition next year? Nobody would have expected this to happen at the start of the new season.

[Agbe]

Nottingham Forest barely made it out of the relegation zone last season but they are sitting at fourth place at the table now. They are almost guaranteed a spot for the next PL and maybe a European competition next year? Nobody would have expected this to happen at the start of the new season.

I must confess that the the surprise team of the season is forest which barely escape religation last season but this season they have really changed and is currently sitting fourth place above Manchester City and many big teams like united am really impressed about their performance and if they continue to this Way that they are going I see them making it to European competition next season.
Nobody expected them to be in this kind of position currently because as of last season this time they where fighting for their life's in the premier league table

[debra]

Nottingham Forest barely made it out of the relegation zone last season but they are sitting at fourth place at the table now. They are almost guaranteed a spot for the next PL and maybe a European competition next year? Nobody would have expected this to happen at the start of the new season.

This is cool, although the victory was by a small margin, but it is still a victory obtained by Nottm Forest so far. and they are very consistent. who would have thought that their performance would be this good this season. because, last season, Nottm Forest only finished in 17th position, almost entering the relegation zone. This is a very incredible progress. and now, this club is in the top 4, even above Man City and Aston Villa. Competing with Bournemouth.

[pawel7777]

Whatever Amorim is doing to Man United, it's not working out. But, in his defence, he has to play with what he inherited after Ten Hag. He probably will be allowed to do some shopping in the winter transfer window, but if there's no visible improvement after that, he might be in trouble.

Impressive performance by Liverpool. Mo Salah is now the sole leader of the top Premier League scorers with 15 goals to his name, overtaking Man City's Haaland, who hasn't improved his 13-goal count in a while.
If Liverpool doesn't hit any longer period of season fatigue and underperformance, they're on the best way to win the league. And that would be a great debut for Arne Slot.

[Uruhara]

Nottingham Forest barely made it out of the relegation zone last season but they are sitting at fourth place at the table now. They are almost guaranteed a spot for the next PL and maybe a European competition next year? Nobody would have expected this to happen at the start of the new season.

For Nottingham, if they can get a ticket to the Conference League or European league, that will be an extraordinary achievement. But if Nottingham turns out to be able to get a ticket to the UCL then I think this team will really bring a big surprise and they will be really amazing. Nobody ever expected to see this team competing so tightly in the top 4 rankings. Because usually they are only in the middle rank or even struggling to avoid the relegation zone. Maybe next season more unexpected things will happen. Even now there are many things that are beyond predictions.

[pieppiep]

Nottingham Forest barely made it out of the relegation zone last season but they are sitting at fourth place at the table now. They are almost guaranteed a spot for the next PL and maybe a European competition next year? Nobody would have expected this to happen at the start of the new season.

For Nottingham, if they can get a ticket to the Conference League or European league, that will be an extraordinary achievement. But if Nottingham turns out to be able to get a ticket to the UCL then I think this team will really bring a big surprise and they will be really amazing. Nobody ever expected to see this team competing so tightly in the top 4 rankings. Because usually they are only in the middle rank or even struggling to avoid the relegation zone. Maybe next season more unexpected things will happen. Even now there are many things that are beyond predictions.

Nottingham Forest teaches that football can always have its moments of surprising overturn. Team season this year is proof that hard work, dedication, coming together and love for what we do are without limit. Every single movement they make start a new expectation, and everyone win brings them assurance that they are not just a part of the championship, but are in equal rank as contenders. We all appreciate and understand the value of having support from all the stakeholders, players, staff, and fans in this success narrative. The potential and dedication they had, and still demonstrate allow Nottingham Forest to once again bring home the lesson, where determination has no limits. Bettering this performance next season would be a lovely thought, and what they have achieved is true success, built by everyone.

[Gurujebs]

Maybe, we are expecting too much from a coach that's new in the club and is still trying to see the best strategy to use, and how he can get the players of his choice to fit into that plan. I wouldn't blame Amorim for anything until he gets the players of his choice. Winning City was a big relief because they are vulnerable this season.

People think because Maresca was able to do something about Chelsea performance, Amorim good performance in Sporting can be replicate that here in Manchester United but they forgot that there was 3 good coach that left before he came, not every coach can be able to handle some teams especially when they are not too determine to win.

Amorim need to remix and reshuffle some of the players he is starting. I saw Ahmad performance the other day and I was surprised why they have been using Gernacho and Rashford instead of other players, they need to restrategize the players.

[Igebotz]

People think because Maresca was able to do something about Chelsea performance, Amorim good performance in Sporting can be replicate that here in Manchester United but they forgot that there was 3 good coach that left before he came, not every coach can be able to handle some teams especially when they are not too determine to win.

Amorim need to remix and reshuffle some of the players he is starting. I saw Ahmad performance the other day and I was surprised why they have been using Gernacho and Rashford instead of other players, they need to restrategize the players.

Both Amorim and Enzo Mascara are good managers; the only difference between one having a good season and the other struggling is that one inherited one of the best depth squads, went on a preseason with the team, and had time to reshuffle, whereas the other inherited a bunch of average players with no good squad depth.

 Amorim is not a magician, and the current United squad is uncoachable. He'd need a solid summer and preseason to turn things around.

[Sim_card]

Maybe, we are expecting too much from a coach that's new in the club and is still trying to see the best strategy to use, and how he can get the players of his choice to fit into that plan. I wouldn't blame Amorim for anything until he gets the players of his choice. Winning City was a big relief because they are vulnerable this season.

People think because Maresca was able to do something about Chelsea performance, Amorim good performance in Sporting can be replicate that here in Manchester United but they forgot that there was 3 good coach that left before he came, not every coach can be able to handle some teams especially when they are not too determine to win.

Amorim need to remix and reshuffle some of the players he is starting. I saw Ahmad performance the other day and I was surprised why they have been using Gernacho and Rashford instead of other players, they need to restrategize the players.

That was the problem Ten Hag had, he so much put all his confidence on Rashford and Gnarcho, keeping Ahmad on bench to waste his talent. Ahmad is on Amorim first eleven. While Rashford and Gnarcho is on the transfer list. I think it's too early for anyone to judge Amorim because he hasn't been able to make his team with the players of his choice.

[Uruhara]

Nottingham Forest barely made it out of the relegation zone last season but they are sitting at fourth place at the table now. They are almost guaranteed a spot for the next PL and maybe a European competition next year? Nobody would have expected this to happen at the start of the new season.

For Nottingham, if they can get a ticket to the Conference League or European league, that will be an extraordinary achievement. But if Nottingham turns out to be able to get a ticket to the UCL then I think this team will really bring a big surprise and they will be really amazing. Nobody ever expected to see this team competing so tightly in the top 4 rankings. Because usually they are only in the middle rank or even struggling to avoid the relegation zone. Maybe next season more unexpected things will happen. Even now there are many things that are beyond predictions.

Nottingham Forest teaches that football can always have its moments of surprising overturn. Team season this year is proof that hard work, dedication, coming together and love for what we do are without limit. Every single movement they make start a new expectation, and everyone win brings them assurance that they are not just a part of the championship, but are in equal rank as contenders. We all appreciate and understand the value of having support from all the stakeholders, players, staff, and fans in this success narrative. The potential and dedication they had, and still demonstrate allow Nottingham Forest to once again bring home the lesson, where determination has no limits. Bettering this performance next season would be a lovely thought, and what they have achieved is true success, built by everyone.

Well, Nottingham has taught a valuable lesson that even teams that are considered weak can eventually rise up and be able to compete with teams that are considered strong every season. Last season, Nottingham almost got relegated and even in the previous season too. But yeah this season is very different. And yes, they have done one of the biggest surprises this season. And I hope this team can maintain their performance until the end of the season. Because if one of the teams that was initially considered weak can prove themselves to be strong this season then that will be one of the interesting things that happens this season. Last season in La Liga something similar happened, namely Girona did it. And I think this season in the Premier League, Nottingham will do it.

[pawel7777]

The odds for all the games of round 18 (26th and 27th Dec), by Duelbits, are as follows:


Is anyone else tempted to place a smallish bet on a draw on Man City vs. Everton? Or do we think Everton is so weak that Man City in crisis can still easily defeat them?
Statistically speaking, Everton has the highest draw rate in the league (44%) and, in their last two games, they stole some points from Chelsea and Arsenal, both games ended in goalless draws.

[Uruhara]

The odds for all the games of round 18 (26th and 27th Dec), by Duelbits, are as follows:


Is anyone else tempted to place a smallish bet on a draw on Man City vs. Everton? Or do we think Everton is so weak that Man City in crisis can still easily defeat them?
Statistically speaking, Everton has the highest draw rate in the league (44%) and, in their last two games, they stole some points from Chelsea and Arsenal, both games ended in goalless draws.

I will still avoid betting on every match that Man City plays for now. unless I change my mind and start to get tempted. 
In this match, a draw could indeed occur. But even though Man City is in an unstable condition, it would be hard to believe if Man City also failed to get full points in the next match, namely against Everton.

[koang]

Man United missed another goal to Bournemouth for the first half, is this a sign of another defeat? We know Bournemouth now have a good winning run over a few games and this time they could potentially beat Man United at home.

Yep like Manchester United still can't recover, I think they still lack confidence they will win.
But this is just my prediction.

There’s a communication issue at the back. United are conceding this many goals with five defenders on the field. Their actions on the pitch appear to show that they can not do the basics in defense and attack.
Dedication and discipline are the two key areas that Manchester United need improvement.  Almost every chance the opposing team has ended up in the net and every chance they have ended up wide or over the bar. It’s just so poor