[Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread

[koang]

Manchester United lost again, who knows how long this team will finish with its bad game scheme? Currently, the position in the table 15 is closer to relegation if it continues like this, it will be even worse.
The next week will be against Everton, which we know this team is miraculously good under the leadership of coach Moyes, even Liverpool classmates are still held to a draw.

United wouldn't stop their weaknesses when they're on thr field. They play like shit and lack creativity when they reach their opponents post. My anger is that they wouldn't be able to go to relegation if not that would have served them right. These set of United players looks like the worst so far in history.

Don't know if every player or coach has no chemistry? So the game is not so solid, not creative they also seem to have no quality on the field even though they have several famous players.
Yeah maybe this is the worst player in history because they continue to be destroyed in the Premier League.

A step forward a step back, It's so heartbreaking.
Right now, United is just 12 points above the relegation zone but 14 points behind the top six. It's a staggering statistic for one of the big clubs.
Something is missing in the team, and cannot be addressed by changing a coach frequently.
And I'm trying to convince myself that Amorim is the right guy for the job, We have no choice, the only hope is for him to change his pattern till he gets his players.

[Agbe]

United is in a serious mess right now because with the looks of things United problems is bigger than what everyone thought because right now there is a school of thought that ten hang sacking was a mistake that he should have been allowed to at least finish the season because with the current state of United you can't really say if United is moving forward or backward

[Rruchi man]

United is in a serious mess right now because with the looks of things United problems is bigger than what everyone thought because right now there is a school of thought that ten hang sacking was a mistake that he should have been allowed to at least finish the season because with the current state of United you can't really say if United is moving forward or backward

They look stuck at the point they are at, one step forward and two steps backward each time. I pity the coach. He had such a good record before coming to the club, but now it looks like his appointment is in doubt because Manchester United have not shown much improvement since the sack of the last coach, and the bad news is that they have more problems since one of their brightest players Amad is now injured and will be unavailable for a while.

[Uruhara]

United is in a serious mess right now because with the looks of things United problems is bigger than what everyone thought because right now there is a school of thought that ten hang sacking was a mistake that he should have been allowed to at least finish the season because with the current state of United you can't really say if United is moving forward or backward

When Ten Hag left and Ruud van Nistelrooy took over temporarily, we could see a rapid improvement in Man United's performance. But when Amorim took over coaching from Ruud, it seemed like Man United was going down again. Although in several matches Amorim was able to produce good results. But with his experiments he continued to make Man United's performance worse. I personally don't understand the current situation in this team. Well it's very messy.

[Zed0X]

^ Sudden changes or shake up to the system could be messy for players and coaches. We might not see the results in the table but I think Amorim should stick to his plan/s for the club. He knows what he wants from the players and he's not someone that's pressured by status. Divas have no place in his squad.

[pieppiep]

United is in a serious mess right now because with the looks of things United problems is bigger than what everyone thought because right now there is a school of thought that ten hang sacking was a mistake that he should have been allowed to at least finish the season because with the current state of United you can't really say if United is moving forward or backward

When Ten Hag left and Ruud van Nistelrooy took over temporarily, we could see a rapid improvement in Man United's performance. But when Amorim took over coaching from Ruud, it seemed like Man United was going down again. Although in several matches Amorim was able to produce good results. But with his experiments he continued to make Man United's performance worse. I personally don't understand the current situation in this team. Well it's very messy.

Yes, Man United are going through a particularly tough period and this is definitely a cause for worry for all fans of the team. This latter has been a major issue raised by the constant changing of coaches over the last years as this has affected the team strategically and psychologically. It is well expected that he will bring such stability to that team to bring the team to a better direction. Maintaining tend of this game and choosing the right strategy are the areas of improvement that need to be upheld. Even though there have been some successes in several past games, it definitely looks forward to every decision made so as to have a better long-term outcome. All of the involved parties must wish to see the team at Manchester United performing its best and regaining its lost glory.

[Agbe]

United is in a serious mess right now because with the looks of things United problems is bigger than what everyone thought because right now there is a school of thought that ten hang sacking was a mistake that he should have been allowed to at least finish the season because with the current state of United you can't really say if United is moving forward or backward

They look stuck at the point they are at, one step forward and two steps backward each time. I pity the coach. He had such a good record before coming to the club, but now it looks like his appointment is in doubt because Manchester United have not shown much improvement since the sack of the last coach, and the bad news is that they have more problems since one of their brightest players Amad is now injured and will be unavailable for a while.

You're actually right because Amorin in sporting Lisbon was one of the best coaches in Europe that is why United went for him but with the way things are now many people has started doubting his credentials because ever since coming over to united there has not been any significant changes and impact that he has been able to make in the team even though with things are it will take a while before the players can adopt to Amorims philosophy and style of play

[koang]

^ Sudden changes or shake up to the system could be messy for players and coaches. We might not see the results in the table but I think Amorim should stick to his plan/s for the club. He knows what he wants from the players and he's not someone that's pressured by status. Divas have no place in his squad.

We know it's not his team... yet. Amorim is a smart man, he has a preferred style of football and knows what he's doing. If that's his long-term plan then he needs to stick to getting the players used to it to make things easier next season.
However, He now knows what he had (not much) and so should be adjusting.  He can keep many principles whilst tweaking a few things in the short term. IMO

[Agbe]

With the current state Manchester United finds it self the best plan that will be of benefit will be that of a long term plan because there is no immediate solution that will impact positively on the team so Amorin should focus more on building a team that will compete for titles in the next two to three seasons rather than getting results in the short term Amorin should dedicate the rest of the season to build the team and prepare players that can compete for the league in the future and most especially bring in quality players at the end of the season

[alltalk]

When Ten Hag left and Ruud van Nistelrooy took over temporarily, we could see a rapid improvement in Man United's performance. But when Amorim took over coaching from Ruud, it seemed like Man United was going down again. Although in several matches Amorim was able to produce good results. But with his experiments he continued to make Man United's performance worse. I personally don't understand the current situation in this team. Well it's very messy.

So far, I don't see a big difference between Ten Hag and Amorim. Ten Hag even did better because he could win 2 trophies for Man United. I agree that Ruud van Nistelrooy was a more suitable coach to manage Man United. He knows how to improve the mentality of the players, he could apply a proper strategy and formation for Man United. Unfortunately, Man United board doesn't really trust his ability because he has lack of experience in managing big teams. TBH, I'm a bit disappointed with Man United decision to change him with Amorim at that time.

[koang]

When Ten Hag left and Ruud van Nistelrooy took over temporarily, we could see a rapid improvement in Man United's performance. But when Amorim took over coaching from Ruud, it seemed like Man United was going down again. Although in several matches Amorim was able to produce good results. But with his experiments he continued to make Man United's performance worse. I personally don't understand the current situation in this team. Well it's very messy.

So far, I don't see a big difference between Ten Hag and Amorim. Ten Hag even did better because he could win 2 trophies for Man United. I agree that Ruud van Nistelrooy was a more suitable coach to manage Man United. He knows how to improve the mentality of the players, he could apply a proper strategy and formation for Man United. Unfortunately, Man United board doesn't really trust his ability because he has lack of experience in managing big teams. TBH, I'm a bit disappointed with Man United decision to change him with Amorim at that time.

Amorim is just another version of Ten Hag? I'm not ready for this conversation

The fact is that ETH had enormous transfer powers, and even had to personally scout players.
For years ETH was the de facto "recruitment czar" in terms of intentions and squad planning.
While others executed the actual transfers and negotiated the fees.

[ajiz138]

When Ten Hag left and Ruud van Nistelrooy took over temporarily, we could see a rapid improvement in Man United's performance. But when Amorim took over coaching from Ruud, it seemed like Man United was going down again. Although in several matches Amorim was able to produce good results. But with his experiments he continued to make Man United's performance worse. I personally don't understand the current situation in this team. Well it's very messy.

So far, I don't see a big difference between Ten Hag and Amorim. Ten Hag even did better because he could win 2 trophies for Man United. I agree that Ruud van Nistelrooy was a more suitable coach to manage Man United. He knows how to improve the mentality of the players, he could apply a proper strategy and formation for Man United. Unfortunately, Man United board doesn't really trust his ability because he has lack of experience in managing big teams. TBH, I'm a bit disappointed with Man United decision to change him with Amorim at that time.

The difference is that Erik Ten Hag plays with the players he wants, while Amorim is not at that point yet. Regarding Ruud, we actually can't judge in that short a time, because he only handled a few matches. Whereas if you look at it, actually in the first few matches Amorim can also show a little improvement.

I don't know I also don't really understand what Manchester United is going through, they have really lost their identity.

[Uruhara]

When Ten Hag left and Ruud van Nistelrooy took over temporarily, we could see a rapid improvement in Man United's performance. But when Amorim took over coaching from Ruud, it seemed like Man United was going down again. Although in several matches Amorim was able to produce good results. But with his experiments he continued to make Man United's performance worse. I personally don't understand the current situation in this team. Well it's very messy.

So far, I don't see a big difference between Ten Hag and Amorim. Ten Hag even did better because he could win 2 trophies for Man United. I agree that Ruud van Nistelrooy was a more suitable coach to manage Man United. He knows how to improve the mentality of the players, he could apply a proper strategy and formation for Man United. Unfortunately, Man United board doesn't really trust his ability because he has lack of experience in managing big teams. TBH, I'm a bit disappointed with Man United decision to change him with Amorim at that time.

Yes, at that time I also really hoped that Ruud would be given the opportunity at least until the end of the season to manage Man United. But yes, the club seems to have already made an appointment with Amorim. And perhaps at first the club did not expect that Ruud could produce such good results for Man United. And by the way, when Man United was coached by Ruud, did they ever lose? I don't remember.

[bounceback]

Yes, at that time I also really hoped that Ruud would be given the opportunity at least until the end of the season to manage Man United. But yes, the club seems to have already made an appointment with Amorim. And perhaps at first the club did not expect that Ruud could produce such good results for Man United. And by the way, when Man United was coached by Ruud, did they ever lose? I don't remember.

Firstly, Ruud Van Nistelrooy have good result with Manchester United as interim manager but when appointing as Leicester City manager he failed bring his teams out from relegation standings position. I don't think will be right appointing if back to Manchester United for replacing Ruben Amorim position have difficulty adapt well with manchester united.
Now between Man United and Leicester City have bad perform and actually both manager between Ruben Amorim or Ruud on huge pressure after failure with their teams.

[Agbe]

Liverpool stands the chance of extending their lead on the premier League table up to ten points today if they can get a victory over Aston Villa at away in the ongoing game this night, this match is going to be a tough match for Liverpool because Aston Villa too is not a bad team because they are in 9th position with 38 points so a win for Villa will see them move to up to seven position  which is a good one as they they have eyes on the top four spots so this game is open for the both team because they know what is at stake for them if any of them lose this game