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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #660 on: June 28, 2024, 09:00:30 PM »
When compared to other teams in Serie A, it is true that they do not have a more luxurious squad than the teams that are above them. However, in my opinion, that cannot be a benchmark that they must play unsatisfactorily or be unable to compete with better teams.

We can look at Leverkusen this season, do they have a better squad than Bayern Munich? I don't think so. Also Stuttgart do they have more luxurious players than Bayern Munich? but they can finish in a better ranking in the Bundesliga.

this also depends on the fact that the Italian Serie A is very competitive, small teams can make the difference and beat strong teams
See Sassuolo, relegated to Serie B, beat Inter twice last year. Just to understand.
this is reflected in the fact that it is a very tiring path, compared to other leagues
Yes, SerieA is competitive, but what I want to convey here is that a team will be in a better position even though their player composition is not better than the team above them.

One example I gave was in the Bundesliga when those who had squads that were not luxurious could finish in a better ranking. And AS Roma can also do that as long as they play solidly.

Now whether they can do that or not is up to them.

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #661 on: June 28, 2024, 11:37:31 PM »
Yes, SerieA is competitive, but what I want to convey here is that a team will be in a better position even though their player composition is not better than the team above them.
Yes, actually Serie A is quite competitive, and there are many big and famous clubs in that league. In fact, Atalanta won the UEFA Europa Legaue this season after winning against Leverkusne, who were the top favorites at that time with their extraordinary record. Yes, even though in the UCL, they were not optimal last season, but at least, this league can send 5 representatives to the UCL next season.

It's just that, in the top standing position, Inter Milan is still the dominant club. I don't know whether this will change or not, but many of the clubs in Serie A are competing fiercely between ranks number 2 - 5. Hopefully next season, the competition will be even more exciting and it won't just be Inter Milan who dominates. It would be more exciting to watch a league where the winner is determined by their end-of-season matches.
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #661 on: June 28, 2024, 11:37:31 PM »

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #662 on: June 29, 2024, 02:29:48 PM »
Yes, SerieA is competitive, but what I want to convey here is that a team will be in a better position even though their player composition is not better than the team above them.
Yes, actually Serie A is quite competitive, and there are many big and famous clubs in that league. In fact, Atalanta won the UEFA Europa Legaue this season after winning against Leverkusne, who were the top favorites at that time with their extraordinary record. Yes, even though in the UCL, they were not optimal last season, but at least, this league can send 5 representatives to the UCL next season.

It's just that, in the top standing position, Inter Milan is still the dominant club. I don't know whether this will change or not, but many of the clubs in Serie A are competing fiercely between ranks number 2 - 5. Hopefully next season, the competition will be even more exciting and it won't just be Inter Milan who dominates. It would be more exciting to watch a league where the winner is determined by their end-of-season matches.
This is what I want to see, just as I see the English league which provides a spectacle like that. This season alone they have to determine who will be the champion in the final week, that is very fun to see.

Serie A has many good teams, and some of their names are also very historic teams in Serie A. So they should also be able to show something even more competitive in the race for the Scudetto title.

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #663 on: June 29, 2024, 10:45:21 PM »
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Yes, hopefully next season, Serie A can be even more competitive, remembering that in the future there will also be more clubs joining the UCL and the UEFA Europa League too.
I read that Milan made an offer for Romero Lukaku!!!
But you see, before everyone insulted him now everyone wants him.. so the price goes up
You see what's happening, it's not clear. Contested by
Milan - Napoli - Roma
it makes me laugh, but aren't there other good strikers?
We know how bad Lukaku's image is and how many people treat the striker. In fact, Chelsea, oh well...
Yes, I also read the news that AC Milan also wants to sign Lukaku after the end of Lukaku's loan contract from Roma. There are only those who report that this is for a loan too, while Chelsea really wants to sell him.

But apart from Milan, Napoli is also one of the people who really wants Lukaku, especially since Conte became their new coach. So, this is still not fixed. Because I also read from one of the articles that Napoli have agreed to set an agreement to sign Lukaku, at least Napoli and Milan are in the race to get signing Lukaku.

https://sempremilan.com/report-napoli-close-agreement-chelsea-lukaku-milan-interest
https://sports.yahoo.com/milan-pushing-sign-chelsea-romelu-065500178.html
https://onefootball.com/id/berita/ac-milan-looking-to-sign-romelu-lukaku-and-tammy-abraham-39688522

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #664 on: June 30, 2024, 10:13:14 AM »
Well that's absolutely true. And there is a fact that almost all of the clubs in Serie A actually have simple squads. It's rare for expensive star players to be brought into Serie A. This is different from teams in the Premier League, LaLiga and Bundesliga. But what always amazes me about Serie A is that the clubs in Serie A are always good at utilizing the players they have. Even ordinary players can be transformed into expensive players in Serie A.
The teams are getting ready to play at their best and are looking for players to strengthen the teams
the will to do better is there and this year, this season we have seen it
5 teams have gone to the Champions League, so it means that in Italy we have worked well
Well, Italian clubs even dominated the UCL in the 2023 season. At that time, the majority of Serie A clubs qualified for the quarter-finals and semi-finals. But unfortunately last season the Serie A clubs actually fell early in the UCL. So last season could be said to be a season that was not very good for the Serie A clubs in the UCL. but I am sure that in the coming season the clubs from Serie A will show their dominance again.

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #665 on: June 30, 2024, 11:49:47 PM »
Yes, SerieA is competitive, but what I want to convey here is that a team will be in a better position even though their player composition is not better than the team above them.
Yes, actually Serie A is quite competitive, and there are many big and famous clubs in that league. In fact, Atalanta won the UEFA Europa Legaue this season after winning against Leverkusne, who were the top favorites at that time with their extraordinary record. Yes, even though in the UCL, they were not optimal last season, but at least, this league can send 5 representatives to the UCL next season.

It's just that, in the top standing position, Inter Milan is still the dominant club. I don't know whether this will change or not, but many of the clubs in Serie A are competing fiercely between ranks number 2 - 5. Hopefully next season, the competition will be even more exciting and it won't just be Inter Milan who dominates. It would be more exciting to watch a league where the winner is determined by their end-of-season matches.
This is what I want to see, just as I see the English league which provides a spectacle like that. This season alone they have to determine who will be the champion in the final week, that is very fun to see.

Serie A has many good teams, and some of their names are also very historic teams in Serie A. So they should also be able to show something even more competitive in the race for the Scudetto title.
Well, right?
A league like that definitely makes our adrenaline and our desire to keep watching until the league ends even stronger. Yes, however, if we have seen from a long time ago that the first position in a league is no longer being overtaken, then it certainly won't be as enthusiastic as when it was still really competitive. Like in the EPL, it is truly the most impressive and competitive league of the season.

Yes, you are right, Serie A also has many top clubs which are actually quite famous and big. However, unfortunately there are some of them who have really dropped this season, due to coaches, players and several other problems. Especially regarding their consistency which is quite lacking. Yes, hopefully in the next season, it will be even more competitive and enthusiastic.

Honestly, I want to see Juventus return to the peak of its glory, I really want this club to be in the top position until the end of the season.
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #666 on: July 01, 2024, 09:01:55 AM »
Well, Italian clubs even dominated the UCL in the 2023 season. At that time, the majority of Serie A clubs qualified for the quarter-finals and semi-finals. But unfortunately last season the Serie A clubs actually fell early in the UCL. So last season could be said to be a season that was not very good for the Serie A clubs in the UCL. but I am sure that in the coming season the clubs from Serie A will show their dominance again.

After Italy's departure from the European Championship, I think we should scale back Italian football a bit
it probably works thanks to the many foreigners who crowd our championship, otherwise we would be in a bad situation
this is because talent is no longer cultivated in the youth teams, the springs
you don't cultivate the growth, but you buy disposable type
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #666 on: July 01, 2024, 09:01:55 AM »


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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #667 on: July 01, 2024, 11:54:25 AM »
Well, Italian clubs even dominated the UCL in the 2023 season. At that time, the majority of Serie A clubs qualified for the quarter-finals and semi-finals. But unfortunately last season the Serie A clubs actually fell early in the UCL. So last season could be said to be a season that was not very good for the Serie A clubs in the UCL. but I am sure that in the coming season the clubs from Serie A will show their dominance again.

After Italy's departure from the European Championship, I think we should scale back Italian football a bit
it probably works thanks to the many foreigners who crowd our championship, otherwise we would be in a bad situation
this is because talent is no longer cultivated in the youth teams, the springs
you don't cultivate the growth, but you buy disposable type
I was very surprised by Italy's defeat at the Euros. And yes, this does show a quite worrying condition in Italian football itself. Maybe they should develop the potential of their local players better. But I also don't want to blame the players because I feel Spalletti is also responsible for the defeat because I feel the changes he made to the Italian national team squad were not that good. Last season the clubs from Serie A were eliminated very quickly from the UCL. And now the Italian national team has been eliminated quite quickly from the Euros. Well, conditions are not good there.

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #668 on: July 01, 2024, 12:05:47 PM »
I was very surprised by Italy's defeat at the Euros. And yes, this does show a quite worrying condition in Italian football itself. Maybe they should develop the potential of their local players better. But I also don't want to blame the players because I feel Spalletti is also responsible for the defeat because I feel the changes he made to the Italian national team squad were not that good. Last season the clubs from Serie A were eliminated very quickly from the UCL. And now the Italian national team has been eliminated quite quickly from the Euros. Well, conditions are not good there.

ahah

I'm honestly not surprised at all, the Italian team is really very weak and as other coaches who are better than me have rightly said, the current coach has overestimated the quality of the squad of players
 disgusting that we already knew, clearly losing like that is very humiliating, but let's remember that we didn't even qualify for the last World Cup, it should be a sign
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #669 on: July 01, 2024, 12:50:37 PM »
I was very surprised by Italy's defeat at the Euros. And yes, this does show a quite worrying condition in Italian football itself. Maybe they should develop the potential of their local players better. But I also don't want to blame the players because I feel Spalletti is also responsible for the defeat because I feel the changes he made to the Italian national team squad were not that good. Last season the clubs from Serie A were eliminated very quickly from the UCL. And now the Italian national team has been eliminated quite quickly from the Euros. Well, conditions are not good there.

ahah

I'm honestly not surprised at all, the Italian team is really very weak and as other coaches who are better than me have rightly said, the current coach has overestimated the quality of the squad of players
 disgusting that we already knew, clearly losing like that is very humiliating, but let's remember that we didn't even qualify for the last World Cup, it should be a sign
Yes you are absolutely right. I forgot about that fact. To be honest, I am one of those people who has too high hopes for Spalletti. Because I know that Spalletti has made Napoli reach the peak of its glory again after decades of always failing to win the title in Serie A. So when I heard that Spalletti was the coach of the Italian national team at that time I started to have high hopes for the coach. But yeah this is the result and well it seems that not all coaches who are great at managing clubs are good enough to manage the national team.

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #670 on: July 01, 2024, 05:36:36 PM »
I was very surprised by Italy's defeat at the Euros. And yes, this does show a quite worrying condition in Italian football itself. Maybe they should develop the potential of their local players better. But I also don't want to blame the players because I feel Spalletti is also responsible for the defeat because I feel the changes he made to the Italian national team squad were not that good. Last season the clubs from Serie A were eliminated very quickly from the UCL. And now the Italian national team has been eliminated quite quickly from the Euros. Well, conditions are not good there.
Lets not talk about it, it was a bad thing for everyone, even for us fans who are half angry.  Means because since we hadnt participated for years it was a relief, however we are not happy because we cant go out like this, beaten by two goals by Switzerland.
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #671 on: July 02, 2024, 08:29:39 AM »
I predicted it, regarding the Europeans that Italy would soon be out
and so it was, we don't have quality players, and we don't grow them so this is the result

getting back to topic, I see a lot of difficulty for everyone except for Inter, who confirmed a team that works with a coach already present
in my opinion they will dominate again
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #672 on: July 02, 2024, 11:35:42 AM »
I predicted it, regarding the Europeans that Italy would soon be out
and so it was, we don't have quality players, and we don't grow them so this is the result

getting back to topic, I see a lot of difficulty for everyone except for Inter, who confirmed a team that works with a coach already present
in my opinion they will dominate again
Well, for now, perhaps only Inter Milan can be expected to be in the most stable condition. because Inter Milan won't have many changes next season. They will just continue their work and improve on some of the things that were lacking last season. So it would be very natural if Inter Milan would eventually become the club that dominates Serie A again next season. Because several other strong teams may be busy adapting to their new coaches.

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #673 on: July 02, 2024, 03:17:54 PM »
This is what I want to see, just as I see the English league which provides a spectacle like that. This season alone they have to determine who will be the champion in the final week, that is very fun to see.

Serie A has many good teams, and some of their names are also very historic teams in Serie A. So they should also be able to show something even more competitive in the race for the Scudetto title.
Well, right?
A league like that definitely makes our adrenaline and our desire to keep watching until the league ends even stronger. Yes, however, if we have seen from a long time ago that the first position in a league is no longer being overtaken, then it certainly won't be as enthusiastic as when it was still really competitive. Like in the EPL, it is truly the most impressive and competitive league of the season.

Yes, you are right, Serie A also has many top clubs which are actually quite famous and big. However, unfortunately there are some of them who have really dropped this season, due to coaches, players and several other problems. Especially regarding their consistency which is quite lacking. Yes, hopefully in the next season, it will be even more competitive and enthusiastic.

Honestly, I want to see Juventus return to the peak of its glory, I really want this club to be in the top position until the end of the season.
They still have internal problems, so that affects their performance on the pitch. If we think briefly, then maybe we will think that there is nothing to do in the game. However, if we look further then we will get facts like that.

For example, when management fails to manage its team well, it will affect finances and finances will affect player signings. And that creates even more widespread problems.

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #674 on: July 02, 2024, 04:41:29 PM »
Honestly, I want to see Juventus return to the peak of its glory, I really want this club to be in the top position until the end of the season.
They still have internal problems, so that affects their performance on the pitch. If we think briefly, then maybe we will think that there is nothing to do in the game. However, if we look further then we will get facts like that.

For example, when management fails to manage its team well, it will affect finances and finances will affect player signings. And that creates even more widespread problems.
Could it be possible? In fact, if for example they can be as good and consistent as they were at the start of last season, they are not bad. However, their performance dropped more and more, their fighting power and winning mentality really didn't exist. I don't know if there is an internal problem, let alone with them. However, the hope is that with a new coach and several new players, Juventus should be able to be more consistent in improving their performance. Don't worry, their era is truly over. They must be able to rebuild the club's glorious era like the last few seasons.

Oh yes, for Juventus, there have been several recent transfers too, right? last time I saw them signing Douglas Luiz. This midfielder from Aston Villa had quite poor performance last season. Yes, in the end Juventus made him a 5 year contract with a fairly good fee, £42.35m.

Source:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cd19nn3dgzno
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13157993/douglas-luiz-juventus-sign-brazilian-midfielder-from-aston-villa

 

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