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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #690 on: July 04, 2024, 11:49:39 PM »
Honestly, I want to see Juventus return to the peak of its glory, I really want this club to be in the top position until the end of the season.
They still have internal problems, so that affects their performance on the pitch. If we think briefly, then maybe we will think that there is nothing to do in the game. However, if we look further then we will get facts like that.
Yes, often internal problems from management really affect the competence and quality of the club and its players. Of course this will be quite annoying because after all Juventus is a top club that has a long history of success in Serie A. But if they don't improve their management much better, this will continue to get worse. However, it seems, they are indeed working, and we'll see how they play their role for the progress and development of Juventus.

Oh yes, for Juventus, there have been several recent transfers too, right? last time I saw them signing Douglas Luiz. This midfielder from Aston Villa had quite poor performance last season. Yes, in the end Juventus made him a 5 year contract with a fairly good fee, £42.35m.
Yes, this is with a swap deal option with the addition of 2 Juventus players, namely Samuel Iling-Junior and Enzo Barrenechea?
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #690 on: July 04, 2024, 11:49:39 PM »

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #691 on: July 05, 2024, 12:06:50 AM »
Unlike every seasons Juventus has not really been on there best performance but I think there would be a positive change on there performance this coming season because they have actually done a lot of work on the club from getting new coach and hiring more good quality and experience players, so without being told Juventus will make a great impact on this upcoming season.
I know this very well, which is why I place enormous hopes in Thiago Motta, I hope that he brings light back where there is darkness and allows us, not just to win, but to return to being the strong team that could compete with the big teams.  I dont think I am asking for much.

If he is the hope, then something needs to be done for him to make the difference. I believe that when it comes to experimenting for a team to improve, then you have to try. The truth is I Want Juve to improve in every way, I want them to do better this season in Serie A and in the UCL, for them to get past the first phase and not be relegated to the Europa League again, because this is a team that has history and they don't deserve to go through the same Situation as before again. It's time for them to react and do things much better.
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #692 on: July 05, 2024, 04:23:53 AM »
Well, things like this indirectly make the players' mental state not good, either because they are sanctioned or so on. Management is making the same mistakes as in the past, and they are not learning from them. Hopefully the same thing doesn't happen again in the future.

However, they must be able to improve, especially in managing this club. The reason is that the problems come more from within, I mean from their own mistakes which should not have happened.
That's why I was actually quite sad when Allegri was fired from Juventus. because I think that Allegri is a great coach, especially when he managed to maintain the mentality of the Juventus players at that time when their club was in trouble. even one of their important players had to be banned from playing. This could actually throw the team's balance into chaos. but at that time Allegri was still able to maintain the balance of the Juventus team so that it remained in good condition.

Not only that. Juventus is also one of the teams where the players suffer the most injuries every season. Injury storms at Juventus often occur and once again Allegri can still handle them well. So actually I felt quite sad when Allegri had to leave. Allegri accompanies Juventus in difficult times.
Management had other considerations when they decided to part ways with Allegri, even though I also think that Allegri is still worth keeping, but that is all management's decision.

When Juventus' condition was not good, Allegri was still able to play a good game, yes, even though it was inconsistent at times, but overall I think this is still normal. They also managed to finish in the Champions League zone.
And last season, Juventus didn't even make many squad changes in the transfer market and only used players from the previous season, but Allegri made good use of them. but yes, I also have to admit that Juventus has been with Allegri for too long and it seems we are also curious about how Juventus will develop with the new coach.

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #693 on: July 05, 2024, 11:35:50 AM »
Could it be possible? In fact, if for example they can be as good and consistent as they were at the start of last season, they are not bad. However, their performance dropped more and more, their fighting power and winning mentality really didn't exist. I don't know if there is an internal problem, let alone with them. However, the hope is that with a new coach and several new players, Juventus should be able to be more consistent in improving their performance. Don't worry, their era is truly over. They must be able to rebuild the club's glorious era like the last few seasons.

Oh yes, for Juventus, there have been several recent transfers too, right? last time I saw them signing Douglas Luiz. This midfielder from Aston Villa had quite poor performance last season. Yes, in the end Juventus made him a 5 year contract with a fairly good fee, £42.35m.

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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cd19nn3dgzno
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13157993/douglas-luiz-juventus-sign-brazilian-midfielder-from-aston-villa


They finally started spending the money, also because they have no choice given that the team is what it is.
The thing that displeases many people is that they crucified Massimiliano Allegri who couldn't do more than he did with the staff he had.
He couldn't do miracles.
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #694 on: July 05, 2024, 12:58:06 PM »
Honestly, I want to see Juventus return to the peak of its glory, I really want this club to be in the top position until the end of the season.
They still have internal problems, so that affects their performance on the pitch. If we think briefly, then maybe we will think that there is nothing to do in the game. However, if we look further then we will get facts like that.For example, when management fails to manage its team well, it will affect finances and finances will affect player signings. And that creates even more widespread problems.
I am seeing that my beloved team, Juventus, is really active on the football transfer market at the moment.  I am happy that they are committing themselves and working, they should have done this a year ago but perhaps they decided not to do it since we werent playing in the Champions League.  I find it wrong, but we cant decide these things.
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #695 on: July 05, 2024, 02:32:09 PM »
Management had other considerations when they decided to part ways with Allegri, even though I also think that Allegri is still worth keeping, but that is all management's decision.

When Juventus' condition was not good, Allegri was still able to play a good game, yes, even though it was inconsistent at times, but overall I think this is still normal. They also managed to finish in the Champions League zone.
And last season, Juventus didn't even make many squad changes in the transfer market and only used players from the previous season, but Allegri made good use of them. but yes, I also have to admit that Juventus has been with Allegri for too long and it seems we are also curious about how Juventus will develop with the new coach.
Indeed, in the last few transfer windows, Juventus has been less active in looking for new players to join its squad. I think they also have a bit of financial problems that they are experiencing.

but as said, even so, Allegri is still able to maximize the existing squad and perhaps this will not be possible for other coaches. I don't mean to belittle, but usually the abilities of coaches differ, because some prefer players whose character meets their criteria.

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #696 on: July 05, 2024, 03:29:46 PM »
Management had other considerations when they decided to part ways with Allegri, even though I also think that Allegri is still worth keeping, but that is all management's decision.

When Juventus' condition was not good, Allegri was still able to play a good game, yes, even though it was inconsistent at times, but overall I think this is still normal. They also managed to finish in the Champions League zone.
And last season, Juventus didn't even make many squad changes in the transfer market and only used players from the previous season, but Allegri made good use of them. but yes, I also have to admit that Juventus has been with Allegri for too long and it seems we are also curious about how Juventus will develop with the new coach.
Indeed, in the last few transfer windows, Juventus has been less active in looking for new players to join its squad. I think they also have a bit of financial problems that they are experiencing.

but as said, even so, Allegri is still able to maximize the existing squad and perhaps this will not be possible for other coaches. I don't mean to belittle, but usually the abilities of coaches differ, because some prefer players whose character meets their criteria.
Since Thiago Motta appointed as Juventus manager, likely have better financial condition after spending around 100 million euro for signing Douglas 50 miilion euro and some new players have reach agreement deal waiting for press conference release.
Its difference with Juventus condition last season under Allegri and management most supported with their new manager Thiago Motta to sign any top players.
Juventus have target for next season must be the winner for domestic league and reach until higher round in Champion League after two season absent participants.

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #696 on: July 05, 2024, 03:29:46 PM »


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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #697 on: July 05, 2024, 04:15:29 PM »
No, your opinion is very warm, for me Napoli have to do something urgently, because this season is already we will see how the team will develop, therefore when we see some changes that they have made then things can be different, I could say that when you try to put together a good team you have to count on the luck factor, if not we see examples in other leagues like Chelsea, they have very good coaches and players and what have they achieved? absolutely nothing, so everything runs in favor of a player like Osimhen who is very good, and if they lose him then obviously everything will be much more down to earth.

I really like Victor Osimhen, both as a player and as a person. He is a generous man who gives, however I have noticed that he is emotional and touchy, so if you do something he doesn't like he remembers it
I'm sorry, the year the championship was won the team was doing very well, it hurts to see this happen

At some point during the 2 seasons ago saga with Napoli and Victor Osimhen, I thought Osimehn was actually doing too much and feeling entitled, but it's the opposite, it's literally Napoli that are really a shit team when it comes to respecting their players. After the whole drama Osimhen kept being professional and maintained silence and in the end signed a new contract with the club, but the disrespect continue, and now Kvaratskhelia is the new player the club has an issue with, there was also talks about the Napoli culb president travelling to Paris to convince PSG to sign Victor Osimhen, maybe legal but the club's actions are very unethical with their best players.
I think this is due to a lack of money, but it seems to me that it is not the right way, this reminds me of how Barcelona treated Messi, in which he himself lowered his own salary in order to stay at the club, sometimes clubs think they are more than a person, they think they can pass for the humanity and professionalism of a player, I myself have said that no player should be above another player, but there are things like this that deserve respect, without going too far, after a team like Manchester United treated CR7 very badly, a great Karma came upon them, and they still can't lift their heads, now with Napoli things are not going well for them.
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #698 on: July 05, 2024, 04:39:55 PM »
No, your opinion is very warm, for me Napoli have to do something urgently, because this season is already we will see how the team will develop, therefore when we see some changes that they have made then things can be different, I could say that when you try to put together a good team you have to count on the luck factor, if not we see examples in other leagues like Chelsea, they have very good coaches and players and what have they achieved? absolutely nothing, so everything runs in favor of a player like Osimhen who is very good, and if they lose him then obviously everything will be much more down to earth.

I really like Victor Osimhen, both as a player and as a person. He is a generous man who gives, however I have noticed that he is emotional and touchy, so if you do something he doesn't like he remembers it
I'm sorry, the year the championship was won the team was doing very well, it hurts to see this happen

At some point during the 2 seasons ago saga with Napoli and Victor Osimhen, I thought Osimehn was actually doing too much and feeling entitled, but it's the opposite, it's literally Napoli that are really a shit team when it comes to respecting their players. After the whole drama Osimhen kept being professional and maintained silence and in the end signed a new contract with the club, but the disrespect continue, and now Kvaratskhelia is the new player the club has an issue with, there was also talks about the Napoli culb president travelling to Paris to convince PSG to sign Victor Osimhen, maybe legal but the club's actions are very unethical with their best players.
I think this is due to a lack of money, but it seems to me that it is not the right way, this reminds me of how Barcelona treated Messi, in which he himself lowered his own salary in order to stay at the club, sometimes clubs think they are more than a person, they think they can pass for the humanity and professionalism of a player, I myself have said that no player should be above another player, but there are things like this that deserve respect, without going too far, after a team like Manchester United treated CR7 very badly, a great Karma came upon them, and they still can't lift their heads, now with Napoli things are not going well for them.

I'm not sure if this would be due to lack of money because at least they're not a team knowing to be winning trophies right ? And they were able to win the league the season just before the concluded one, while they didn't make any over the budget or significant transfers or signings over that period, so I really don't know where the money issue could have arise, but regardless if the budget and funds were to be an issue, that still doesn't justify the actions of the club towards these players to be honest.
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #699 on: July 06, 2024, 02:20:13 PM »
Indeed, in the last few transfer windows, Juventus has been less active in looking for new players to join its squad. I think they also have a bit of financial problems that they are experiencing.

but as said, even so, Allegri is still able to maximize the existing squad and perhaps this will not be possible for other coaches. I don't mean to belittle, but usually the abilities of coaches differ, because some prefer players whose character meets their criteria.
Since Thiago Motta appointed as Juventus manager, likely have better financial condition after spending around 100 million euro for signing Douglas 50 miilion euro and some new players have reach agreement deal waiting for press conference release.
Its difference with Juventus condition last season under Allegri and management most supported with their new manager Thiago Motta to sign any top players.
Juventus have target for next season must be the winner for domestic league and reach until higher round in Champion League after two season absent participants.
In my opinion, the target of becoming champions is still reasonable considering that their performance last season was also good and they could be in the top flight. But the question is whether they can do the same with their new coach?

They have also been absent from the Champions League for several seasons and they will return next season. With their return to the Champions League, the first thing they will do is play as well as possible to get good results too.

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #700 on: July 06, 2024, 11:42:26 PM »
I am seeing that my beloved team, Juventus, is really active on the football transfer market at the moment.  I am happy that they are committing themselves and working, they should have done this a year ago but perhaps they decided not to do it since we werent playing in the Champions League.  I find it wrong, but we cant decide these things.
Yes, the development of the Juventus transfer market this time is quite good. Even recently, they have signed some pretty good players and are still continuing to look for the best talented players for them.

Michele Di Gregorio, the goalkeeper of Monza, is confirmed to join Juventus in the current transfer market. They signed the goalkeeper for a fee of $19.50 million or 18m euros. This is quite worth it considering Di Gregorio's track record last season at his old club.

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/football/juventus-signs-michele-di-gregorio-from-monza-serie-a-transfer-news/article68373914.ece
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #701 on: July 07, 2024, 03:42:55 PM »
Inter Milan, as the team that holds the status of defending champion, will receive even heavier pressure next season, because their competitors will also definitely make improvements which will make them even better prepared to navigate the new season.

In the last few years, Serie A has always had different champions and maybe this will happen again next season, because the level of competition will be tougher in my opinion. Even though Juventus experienced setbacks, they were slowly able to show something good.

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #702 on: July 07, 2024, 11:26:21 PM »
Inter Milan, as the team that holds the status of defending champion, will receive even heavier pressure next season, because their competitors will also definitely make improvements which will make them even better prepared to navigate the new season.
Oh surely, next season's Serie A will most likely be much more competitive. Based on what happened last season, of course several clubs have intended and prepared their clubs to be able to perform more optimally.

So far, Inter Milan has signed several players to strengthen their squad, especially their midfield. Yes, they at least got Frattesi and Augusto to strengthen their midfield.

here is the summary of Inter Milan transfer:
https://www.transfermarkt.com/inter-mailand/transfers/verein/46/saison_id/2024

but on the other hand, other clubs in Serie A are also like that. They are also hunting for top players who can strengthen the club very well. It's not just AC Milan that will join the party for the next season of Serie A. There will be progress and development from several top clubs, such as Juventus, Napoli, and others who definitely want to achieve the highest achievements.
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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #703 on: July 08, 2024, 09:23:01 AM »
Inter Milan, as the team that holds the status of defending champion, will receive even heavier pressure next season, because their competitors will also definitely make improvements which will make them even better prepared to navigate the new season.

In the last few years, Serie A has always had different champions and maybe this will happen again next season, because the level of competition will be tougher in my opinion. Even though Juventus experienced setbacks, they were slowly able to show something good.
One interested with Serie A there are not any team can't defend their winner last season since Juventus dominance with six consecutive tittle over. Last season, Napoli as the winner failed defend their Scudetto and drastically dropped until outside of Europe league or Conference League spot standings finish in this season.
Next season, Juventus seems want back to the winning race and give huge pressure will Inter Milan success destroy with bad result of the defend winner? Since Juventus dominance over the winner of Scudetto can't defend their trophy or win back to back and Inter Milan will show us their possibility become the winner next season or Juventus one step forward after prepare next season very well.

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Re: [Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic
« Reply #704 on: July 08, 2024, 01:44:56 PM »
Inter Milan, as the team that holds the status of defending champion, will receive even heavier pressure next season, because their competitors will also definitely make improvements which will make them even better prepared to navigate the new season.

In the last few years, Serie A has always had different champions and maybe this will happen again next season, because the level of competition will be tougher in my opinion. Even though Juventus experienced setbacks, they were slowly able to show something good.

I really hope so, because otherwise the championship would be truly boring and therefore there would be no fun, in my opinion.
I would also like to see other teams fighting for the title and not an almost one-sided season like this one has been.
I thought someone could challenge Inter but instead nothing.
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