[Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic

[LUCKMCFLY]

However, now we will have a week's break, in which these poor players can finally rest
Now the Pogba issue is back in vogue
Juventus doesn't want him and he's practically at no cost

do you think any Italian team will take advantage of it? probably a second lane team, Roma, Lazio, Bologna...

The Pogba thing is something that can be seen as an opportunity , this player despite everything is very good, he has good technique, however I would say that Roma needs a player like him, without a doubt for me he is the best option for this team, however I think that when we are looking for a way to generate a better way for this team to go higher in the classification, it can be taken as a Premise that things can go better for them, of course this is something that I only speculate , but I would appreciate Having this player in the ranks of a team like Roma.

[ajiz138]

Addiction was the cause that made Pogba to dope before going to play on the pitch. There will be no place for him in Seria A and I don't think that any club will love to sign him in Europe. However, since he is a good player, he will definitely get a good club to play in. Maybe he will move over to SPL if they call for him.

the reality in my opinion is that he just needs to have a good season in any team willing to take him, by having a good season he can go back up
now i don't remember how old he is and i don't know if he might not like this waiting, so i don't know if something like this is in his plans

A good player like him should feel what it's like to be sanctioned for his own actions, this is a lesson for other players not to try to do something that makes them feel a loss.

It should also be remembered that the loss is not only him, but the team. I haven't heard anything about Pogba's future at this time, maybe he will come back with a good performance after the sanction and join another top team, we'll see.

[Uruhara]

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If we look at it now, then you are right that betting on Napoli has a big chance of winning. However, we never know what will happen to them next, not expecting but it could be that they are hit by a storm of injuries so that it makes them have to decline.

Napoli is currently lucky because they appointed Conte as coach, because he is one of the factors that made Napoli play well again as we see now.

Napoli seemed to have revived after Conte arrived and filled the coaching bench there. But they certainly won't run smoothly throughout the season and I also hope that the competition in Serie A can become even fiercer. Unlike in the last two seasons, we always see one team dominate from start to finish. And that's pretty boring. In the 2022-23 season we will also see Napoli dominate Serie A from the start and they even managed to make a big difference in points scored at that time. And then last season Inter Milan also dominated Serie A very well and they won the title as everyone expected. And this season I hope the competition will be even tighter.

[babo]

A good player like him should feel what it's like to be sanctioned for his own actions, this is a lesson for other players not to try to do something that makes them feel a loss.

It should also be remembered that the loss is not only him, but the team. I haven't heard anything about Pogba's future at this time, maybe he will come back with a good performance after the sanction and join another top team, we'll see.

Yes, he had no reason to use doping, sometimes I don't know what goes on in people's heads
without considering that doping is risky for the body
for example doping where they inject extra blood taken from you months before, the risk is that of tiring the heart..

[ajiz138]

A good player like him should feel what it's like to be sanctioned for his own actions, this is a lesson for other players not to try to do something that makes them feel a loss.

It should also be remembered that the loss is not only him, but the team. I haven't heard anything about Pogba's future at this time, maybe he will come back with a good performance after the sanction and join another top team, we'll see.

Yes, he had no reason to use doping, sometimes I don't know what goes on in people's heads
without considering that doping is risky for the body
for example doping where they inject extra blood taken from you months before, the risk is that of tiring the heart..

Maybe it has become a habit or they want to do something new, but it is still something that is not recommended to do, because the rules are also clear that players are prohibited from using doping.

before they became professional players, I think they were also equipped with knowledge like this, so there is no reason for them to say they don't know about this. The team will also definitely warn them not to do strange things that are prohibited by the applicable rules.

[Uruhara]

Maybe it has become a habit or they want to do something new, but it is still something that is not recommended to do, because the rules are also clear that players are prohibited from using doping.

before they became professional players, I think they were also equipped with knowledge like this, so there is no reason for them to say they don't know about this. The team will also definitely warn them not to do strange things that are prohibited by the applicable rules.

But actually we don't know whether Pogba is actually doping on purpose or not. Or is there really strong evidence for this that I didn't read the news?

But fortunately Pogba is now free from his 4 year ban and he was only banned for 18 months and it looks like that means he can return to playing in the near future. But I hope all of this can be a lesson for all other players to be more careful and not use doping. And they even have to be careful in using medical drugs, where the intention to treat a disease could end up being detected as doping users. If I'm not mistaken, Pogba used to be often injured and had problems with his health. And of course he often takes medication to restore his condition.

[Tribalchief]

Maybe it has become a habit or they want to do something new, but it is still something that is not recommended to do, because the rules are also clear that players are prohibited from using doping.

before they became professional players, I think they were also equipped with knowledge like this, so there is no reason for them to say they don't know about this. The team will also definitely warn them not to do strange things that are prohibited by the applicable rules.

Doping is not acceptable in sporting activities, and all professional and none professional athletes are aware of this. I feel, the main reason why some of these athletes indulge in this doping stuff is probably because they are desperate to earning their spot. I believe most of us hear watch football alot, and we know how desperate players are to be on the pitch and play good numbers of games. Those who are more desperate takes this things to enhance themselves inorder to perform more than others, and we all know that any player that performs better gets more chance/playing time than others.

Pogba is the injury prone type, so I believe he must have had to do what he felt would have helped him manage his situation, or what would have enhanced him more to performing better than others. The thing is, there are players or athletes that will still indulge in this thing either now, or later. And since his sentencing was reduced, from my calculation, he should be available in March.

[sampoerna]

Doping is not acceptable in sporting activities, and all professional and none professional athletes are aware of this. I feel, the main reason why some of these athletes indulge in this doping stuff is probably because they are desperate to earning their spot. I

Yes, that's right, wherever it is, in all sports, doping is not acceptable. There are several histories of athletes or sports players who had to pay fines and also return the medals they had won during that time, because they were proven to have used doping. Yes, this is unprofessional, and violates the main principles of athletes, and cheats other players or athletes too, it's unfair. That's why the sanctions are usually that severe.

For Pogba, this is also one of the reasons Juventus did not accept him back in the team, besides because they already have other players in his position, and several other things that made Juventus consider that Pogba was no longer fit to compete in Serie A, even in Europe.

[ajiz138]

Maybe it has become a habit or they want to do something new, but it is still something that is not recommended to do, because the rules are also clear that players are prohibited from using doping.

before they became professional players, I think they were also equipped with knowledge like this, so there is no reason for them to say they don't know about this. The team will also definitely warn them not to do strange things that are prohibited by the applicable rules.

But actually we don't know whether Pogba is actually doping on purpose or not. Or is there really strong evidence for this that I didn't read the news?

But fortunately Pogba is now free from his 4 year ban and he was only banned for 18 months and it looks like that means he can return to playing in the near future. But I hope all of this can be a lesson for all other players to be more careful and not use doping. And they even have to be careful in using medical drugs, where the intention to treat a disease could end up being detected as doping users. If I'm not mistaken, Pogba used to be often injured and had problems with his health. And of course he often takes medication to restore his condition.

Well in this case the player must also be careful, even though they do not use it intentionally, but when they are positive using it then there is no reason that can free them from punishment.

Maybe when they reason like that then it will slightly lighten the sanctions that will be received. But still punishment is punishment, and especially if they have to be sanctioned not to be able to play within the specified time, it is still detrimental.

[UNIVERSE]

Maybe it has become a habit or they want to do something new, but it is still something that is not recommended to do, because the rules are also clear that players are prohibited from using doping.

It is impossible that doping is his habit. Pogba won't be a world class player if he has a habit to use doping. In the club, there should regular test of drugs. He can't use doping regularly because it will be easy to find out when there is a medical test. Honestly, I don't really understand why he used doping because it is something easy to know in medical test. 

before they became professional players, I think they were also equipped with knowledge like this, so there is no reason for them to say they don't know about this. The team will also definitely warn them not to do strange things that are prohibited by the applicable rules.

How do you know this? If you have no proof, you can't spread this false issue.
I think it should be something new for Pogba because he has no bad issues about drugs previously.

[sampoerna]

Maybe it has become a habit or they want to do something new, but it is still something that is not recommended to do, because the rules are also clear that players are prohibited from using doping.

It is impossible that doping is his habit. Pogba won't be a world class player if he has a habit to use doping. In the club, there should regular test of drugs. He can't use doping regularly because it will be easy to find out when there is a medical test. Honestly, I don't really understand why he used doping because it is something easy to know in medical test. 

Based on the news before, Pogba admitted that he took supplements, after the samples and drug tests were done, he was positive for it. but he admitted that he did not know that the supplements contained testosterone in them, and he really admitted that he did not know.

Source here:
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/38391383/paul-pogba-failed-doping-test-due-supplement-source

And for now why his sentence or sanction was reduced from 4 years to 18 months, it was because the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) accepted his argument regarding it. but still he has been banned for 18 months and in the end now has a termination of contract from his club. and later will become a free agent and may have difficulty joining top clubs. But, somehow we will see later how his performance develops after being absent from football for 18 months.

Source here:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cvgdp6x459qo

[alltalk]

Yes, he had no reason to use doping, sometimes I don't know what goes on in people's heads
without considering that doping is risky for the body
for example doping where they inject extra blood taken from you months before, the risk is that of tiring the heart..

We don't know it. He may have an internal problem with his family. But as a professional player and a Muslim, he mustn't try to use doping because it is a forbidden drug. Besides it risks our body, it also will ruin career since it breaks the regulation in football. It is actually strange that Pogba used doping. Is this related to his injury problem? 

[koang]

Maybe it has become a habit or they want to do something new, but it is still something that is not recommended to do, because the rules are also clear that players are prohibited from using doping.

before they became professional players, I think they were also equipped with knowledge like this, so there is no reason for them to say they don't know about this. The team will also definitely warn them not to do strange things that are prohibited by the applicable rules.

He had the talent of all the world on his feet, but Doping has made him a bad man.
The decline of Pogba is so huge after being crowned one of the best just a few years ago. So Discipline in life is so important. IMO
However, everything has happened and he has accepted the consequences, the most important thing now is that he is back and the 2025 season will make the whole world happy.

[Uruhara]

Maybe it has become a habit or they want to do something new, but it is still something that is not recommended to do, because the rules are also clear that players are prohibited from using doping.

before they became professional players, I think they were also equipped with knowledge like this, so there is no reason for them to say they don't know about this. The team will also definitely warn them not to do strange things that are prohibited by the applicable rules.

But actually we don't know whether Pogba is actually doping on purpose or not. Or is there really strong evidence for this that I didn't read the news?

But fortunately Pogba is now free from his 4 year ban and he was only banned for 18 months and it looks like that means he can return to playing in the near future. But I hope all of this can be a lesson for all other players to be more careful and not use doping. And they even have to be careful in using medical drugs, where the intention to treat a disease could end up being detected as doping users. If I'm not mistaken, Pogba used to be often injured and had problems with his health. And of course he often takes medication to restore his condition.

Well in this case the player must also be careful, even though they do not use it intentionally, but when they are positive using it then there is no reason that can free them from punishment.

Maybe when they reason like that then it will slightly lighten the sanctions that will be received. But still punishment is punishment, and especially if they have to be sanctioned not to be able to play within the specified time, it is still detrimental.

And it's possible that Pogba will get relief from the sanctions he received also for that reason. because it is very possible for players who suffer frequent injuries to accidentally take drugs that can be detected as doping even though it is not doping or the aim is for a quick recovery. This player is very prone to injury and his body condition is not as fit as it seems. So when I heard about the case that happened to him I thought it was an accident. but whatever the reason, because he was positively detected using doping, either intentionally or unintentionally, sanctions must still be carried out. But it's nice that he will be back playing maybe next season. or earlier.

[ajiz138]

Well in this case the player must also be careful, even though they do not use it intentionally, but when they are positive using it then there is no reason that can free them from punishment.

Maybe when they reason like that then it will slightly lighten the sanctions that will be received. But still punishment is punishment, and especially if they have to be sanctioned not to be able to play within the specified time, it is still detrimental.

And it's possible that Pogba will get relief from the sanctions he received also for that reason. because it is very possible for players who suffer frequent injuries to accidentally take drugs that can be detected as doping even though it is not doping or the aim is for a quick recovery. This player is very prone to injury and his body condition is not as fit as it seems. So when I heard about the case that happened to him I thought it was an accident. but whatever the reason, because he was positively detected using doping, either intentionally or unintentionally, sanctions must still be carried out. But it's nice that he will be back playing maybe next season. or earlier.

Well, no one knows about that, but what is clear is that I have seen a short video showing Poga quite upset when he was asked by reporters about doping.

Whether he was upset because he did not use it, or he was upset because he used it, it is quite difficult to distinguish. But once again this is a lesson for him and also other players. Even if they do not use doping, it would be better for them to consult the team doctor or their personal doctor.