[Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic

[babo]

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Fortunately, this time Juventus managed to get a good result with 3 points against Udinese. I was a little doubtful about Juventus, but in the end, they were able to do it well. Even though one of them was an OG from Udinese, at least Nicolo Savona's goal made Juventus' victory even stronger.

if he didn't win this match they could actually go picking tomatoes instead of playing football
I'm a little disappointed with Juventus' performances
but I am very happy with the performance of my favorite team: Atalanta
they are doing really well

[koang]

Finally AS Roma was able to achieve victory after failing to achieve it in the last 3 matches. Although it was only a narrow victory, this was a very valuable victory for them.

However, even though they won, they still had to do some evaluations of what they showed in this match. This had to be done because they had to be able to improve in each match to get more satisfying results again.

I know a win is a win, but if the Torino defense hadn't made a mistake, Roma wouldn't have won. Without Torino's mistake, it would have been a draw.
Roma won by an accidental goal, but the coach is happy. lol
Juric sees a different game than the fans see. There is no team spirit to fight all out (championship mentality), but it is extraordinary for him... Serie B mentality.

Yes, if we look at it all, then there will indeed be a lot of criticism that will come even though they can win the match. But at least this victory makes them perhaps more motivated in the next match.

now it all depends on the performance of the coach and the players of AS Roma, because it is impossible for them to always rely on luck to win every match. They must be able to show a very good game if they want to consistently get positive results.

And now, Roma have lost again. Verona beat AS Roma 3-2 in the 11th giornata match at Marc'Antonio Bentegodi. Ivan Juric makes this team cannot defend properly as a team. Ivan Juric is very likely getting sacked after this game.
He has the same arrogance as Mou but with a hundredth of his trophies... he took Roma to Serie B, no more jokes.
If Roma wants to salvage anything from this disastrous season, fire Ivan Jurić and find the right coach. It has to be done, clueless coach.

[babo]

And now, Roma have lost again. Verona beat AS Roma 3-2 in the 11th giornata match at Marc'Antonio Bentegodi. Ivan Juric makes this team cannot defend properly as a team. Ivan Juric is very likely getting sacked after this game.
He has the same arrogance as Mou but with a hundredth of his trophies... he took Roma to Serie B, no more jokes.
If Roma wants to salvage anything from this disastrous season, fire Ivan Jurić and find the right coach. It has to be done, clueless coach.

I hope they realize that by sacking De Rossi they didn't improve the situation
unfortunately stupid management still exists in 2024
even if we have AI, the intelligence or rather the deficiency in the management of trivial things cannot take off. gg

[Uruhara]

Verona and Roma's current rankings are almost the same. Which indicates that the performance of the two is not much different at the moment. But I never expected that Roma would lose to Verona. Because before fighting Verona, we know that the previous week, Roma managed to beat Torino, which actually looked stronger than Verona. And I think this season Roma will really only continue to struggle in the middle rankings. And about Verona I don't think anything has changed with them. Last season, Verona was also ranked in the middle until the end of the season. And if Roma also does the same thing as Verona, namely continuing to be ranked in the middle then that will really be bad.

[Publictalk792]

Verona and Roma's current rankings are almost the same. Which indicates that the performance of the two is not much different at the moment. But I never expected that Roma would lose to Verona. Because before fighting Verona, we know that the previous week, Roma managed to beat Torino, which actually looked stronger than Verona. And I think this season Roma will really only continue to struggle in the middle rankings. And about Verona I don't think anything has changed with them. Last season, Verona was also ranked in the middle until the end of the season. And if Roma also does the same thing as Verona, namely continuing to be ranked in the middle then that will really be bad.

You make good point about Verona and Roma having similar rankings which means they are performing at similar level. It was surprising that Roma lost to Verona especially since they beat Torino week before. Roma up and down performance might mean they will stay in middle of rankings this season. Verona was also in the middle of the rankings last season and does not seem to be getting better. If Roma stays in middle like Verona it will be disappointing for Roma fans who expect more. Do you think Roma needs to change its coaches or players to improve and move up the rankings?

[Uruhara]

Verona and Roma's current rankings are almost the same. Which indicates that the performance of the two is not much different at the moment. But I never expected that Roma would lose to Verona. Because before fighting Verona, we know that the previous week, Roma managed to beat Torino, which actually looked stronger than Verona. And I think this season Roma will really only continue to struggle in the middle rankings. And about Verona I don't think anything has changed with them. Last season, Verona was also ranked in the middle until the end of the season. And if Roma also does the same thing as Verona, namely continuing to be ranked in the middle then that will really be bad.

You make good point about Verona and Roma having similar rankings which means they are performing at similar level. It was surprising that Roma lost to Verona especially since they beat Torino week before. Roma up and down performance might mean they will stay in middle of rankings this season. Verona was also in the middle of the rankings last season and does not seem to be getting better. If Roma stays in middle like Verona it will be disappointing for Roma fans who expect more. Do you think Roma needs to change its coaches or players to improve and move up the rankings?

I think the mistakes that happened to the Roma club started when they rushed to fire De Rossi. They didn't give the young coach much time there and instead fired him so quickly and replaced him with Juric which I don't think will make much of a difference. Maybe I would be happy if De Rossi was fired but his replacement was Xavi Hernandez or Pochettino or Tuchel. But replacing him with Juric was a little doubtful from the start. But I also don't want to underestimate Juric's coaching. because in several matches he was also able to improve Roma's performance. It's just that they are inconsistent. That is, good in one match and bad in another. Maybe firing the current coach is the same as making the situation worse there. because the players will really have to adapt again to the new coach. But if the results continue to get worse then there is no other choice but to fire him. The players that Roma currently has are not that bad. They even have players who last season managed to become top scorers in Laliga. Although unfortunately in Rome he seemed to lose his productivity. So yes, getting new, better players and changing coaches if the situation continues to get worse could indeed be a solution. even though it's the same as taking another high risk. but by having a new coach there is also the potential for good results.

[Yamzakid]

It's very surprising to see that Atalanta was able to end Napoli unbeaten record by defeating them 3-0 today in their clash. Lookman started the opening goal on the early minutes of the gamw game with a wonderful strike which went straight to the back of Napoli's goal post on the 10th minutes of the match. On the 31st minutes Lookman was able to score his second goal. Napoli looked very weak at home today and couldn't clap back any of these goals, until the 90+2 minutes, Retegui scored the last goal for Atalanta to seal up their victory. Napoli has dropped points today after staying unbeaten in their last 9 matches. If Inter wins their match this evening, Napoli will use only a point to be ahead of them.

I wasn't surprised when Napoli lost to Atlanta in their last match because Atlanta are a very good team with a strong attacking and have defensive style. Their midfield is also creative, and their game pattern is far better than Napoli's, so I think they deserved the win, and it's a great thing that they broke Napoli Seria unbeaten record.
Ademola Lookman was the game's best player and scored a brace. In my opinion, Atlanta will be able to compete with Napoli and Inter Milan for the Seria A title.

[koang]

And now, Roma have lost again. Verona beat AS Roma 3-2 in the 11th giornata match at Marc'Antonio Bentegodi. Ivan Juric makes this team cannot defend properly as a team. Ivan Juric is very likely getting sacked after this game.
He has the same arrogance as Mou but with a hundredth of his trophies... he took Roma to Serie B, no more jokes.
If Roma wants to salvage anything from this disastrous season, fire Ivan Jurić and find the right coach. It has to be done, clueless coach.

I hope they realize that by sacking De Rossi they didn't improve the situation
unfortunately stupid management still exists in 2024
even if we have AI, the intelligence or rather the deficiency in the management of trivial things cannot take off. gg

Yeah, I know what you mean. Since the day they left Mourinho alone, it was clear. Inadequate and scarce
The problem is that they don't understand anything, unfortunately or fortunately in football, you have to understand
And in the year we are living, the management has made some very heinous mistakes.
Their lack of intervention in a dramatic situation like this means they don't have much interest in Roma, maybe because they want to leave the potatoes to someone else. IMO

[babo]

I wasn't surprised when Napoli lost to Atlanta in their last match because Atlanta are a very good team with a strong attacking and have defensive style. Their midfield is also creative, and their game pattern is far better than Napoli's, so I think they deserved the win, and it's a great thing that they broke Napoli Seria unbeaten record.
Ademola Lookman was the game's best player and scored a brace. In my opinion, Atlanta will be able to compete with Napoli and Inter Milan for the Seria A title.

Exactly, consider that Atalanta, my team, is really strong and that Napoli could have suffered a decline after the positive series of matches played
He couldn't win forever, and the misstep obviously came
Not all is lost, they are still first in the standings

[Sim_card]

Finally AS Roma was able to achieve victory after failing to achieve it in the last 3 matches. Although it was only a narrow victory, this was a very valuable victory for them.

However, even though they won, they still had to do some evaluations of what they showed in this match. This had to be done because they had to be able to improve in each match to get more satisfying results again.

I know a win is a win, but if the Torino defense hadn't made a mistake, Roma wouldn't have won. Without Torino's mistake, it would have been a draw.
Roma won by an accidental goal, but the coach is happy. lol
Juric sees a different game than the fans see. There is no team spirit to fight all out (championship mentality), but it is extraordinary for him... Serie B mentality.

Yes, if we look at it all, then there will indeed be a lot of criticism that will come even though they can win the match. But at least this victory makes them perhaps more motivated in the next match.

now it all depends on the performance of the coach and the players of AS Roma, because it is impossible for them to always rely on luck to win every match. They must be able to show a very good game if they want to consistently get positive results.

And now, Roma have lost again. Verona beat AS Roma 3-2 in the 11th giornata match at Marc'Antonio Bentegodi. Ivan Juric makes this team cannot defend properly as a team. Ivan Juric is very likely getting sacked after this game.
He has the same arrogance as Mou but with a hundredth of his trophies... he took Roma to Serie B, no more jokes.
If Roma wants to salvage anything from this disastrous season, fire Ivan Jurić and find the right coach. It has to be done, clueless coach.

It is disheartened to see Roma is such poor performance since the beginning of the season without having any hope of transformation. It is not to sack Juric that is the problem, because De Rossi was sacked not quite long. The problem to for Roma to look for a professional coach for the team and not coaches that is coming to try their luck to see if things will work out for them. A good coach can revive the club.

[bounceback]

Exactly, consider that Atalanta, my team, is really strong and that Napoli could have suffered a decline after the positive series of matches played
He couldn't win forever, and the misstep obviously came
Not all is lost, they are still first in the standings

Atalanta have good capital before facing the top standings position Napoli because last four consecutives winning in domestic league more confidence take three points. However both teams have good performed in last several matches but Atalanta more promising performance and success defeating Napoli ovr 3-0. Its first home loss for Napoli and conceded 3 goals at one match and make their points too close on the top standings behind Inter Milan with one point remaining, for upcoming match if Napoli loss three points have drop to second of third place if possibility Inter and Atalanta success secure three points.

[babo]

Exactly, consider that Atalanta, my team, is really strong and that Napoli could have suffered a decline after the positive series of matches played
He couldn't win forever, and the misstep obviously came
Not all is lost, they are still first in the standings

Atalanta have good capital before facing the top standings position Napoli because last four consecutives winning in domestic league more confidence take three points. However both teams have good performed in last several matches but Atalanta more promising performance and success defeating Napoli ovr 3-0. Its first home loss for Napoli and conceded 3 goals at one match and make their points too close on the top standings behind Inter Milan with one point remaining, for upcoming match if Napoli loss three points have drop to second of third place if possibility Inter and Atalanta success secure three points.

Atalanta does things calmly, builds over time and not in months
note that Gasperini the coach had been called with more money elsewhere, and he refused
because in Atalanta it is built calmly and over time

you will see that in the next few years it will become even stronger than now

[Uruhara]

Atalanta does things calmly, builds over time and not in months
note that Gasperini the coach had been called with more money elsewhere, and he refused
because in Atalanta it is built calmly and over time

you will see that in the next few years it will become even stronger than now

It cannot be denied that Atalanta is the most stable from season to season. They haven't experienced a drastic decline in several seasons. And in fact they continue to increase even though it looks quite slow. But that is much better than a team that improves rapidly in one season but falls so low in the next season. It seems that I am also starting to like how the process is happening at the Atalanta club. Everything felt so peaceful there.

[Publictalk792]

It cannot be denied that Atalanta is the most stable from season to season. They haven't experienced a drastic decline in several seasons. And in fact they continue to increase even though it looks quite slow. But that is much better than a team that improves rapidly in one season but falls so low in the next season. It seems that I am also starting to like how the process is happening at the Atalanta club. Everything felt so peaceful there.

Atalanta consistency is very impressive. They keep getting better over time without big drops which is different from teams that quickly rise and fall. Their calm and organized way of working is refreshing and letting players focus on improving and working together leading to long term success. Good leadership and clear plan effective player growth consistent coaching and balanced team all help Atalanta stay stable. As result team peaceful atmosphere makes them enjoyable to support and their steady progress shows they have solid plan and foundation. This inspires trust and admiration from fans who prefer steady growth over brief moments of success.

[Uruhara]

It cannot be denied that Atalanta is the most stable from season to season. They haven't experienced a drastic decline in several seasons. And in fact they continue to increase even though it looks quite slow. But that is much better than a team that improves rapidly in one season but falls so low in the next season. It seems that I am also starting to like how the process is happening at the Atalanta club. Everything felt so peaceful there.

Atalanta consistency is very impressive. They keep getting better over time without big drops which is different from teams that quickly rise and fall. Their calm and organized way of working is refreshing and letting players focus on improving and working together leading to long term success. Good leadership and clear plan effective player growth consistent coaching and balanced team all help Atalanta stay stable. As result team peaceful atmosphere makes them enjoyable to support and their steady progress shows they have solid plan and foundation. This inspires trust and admiration from fans who prefer steady growth over brief moments of success.

yeah they build strength carefully and not in a hurry and yeah it looks better and feels calmer when we pay attention. Last season they played in the European League and managed to lift the trophy there. And that is an extraordinary achievement. And currently Atalanta is playing in the UCL and so far they have never lost even though they have had two draws and only 1 win.