[Football] Italian Serie A League Discussion & Betting Topic

[Agbe]

Well, Thiago Motta does have a big responsibility. As a young coach he has actually worked well. And maybe if he is given the opportunity in the next season he will be able to improve on his existing shortcomings. Because he should now realize what Juventus is lacking. It's just that currently there is a lot of news that Thiago Motta's relationship with the players is not good enough. Because there are several players who are even reportedly ignoring Thiago Motta.

Of course, Motta has the responsibility of the Juventus performance. He must improve Juventus performance because everyone expects a better performance. Unfortunately, Juventus performance is worse in the last match. They never won in the last 2 matches. They are getting far from the scudetto. Even they seems difficult to finish in the top 3. The reasonable target is to finish in UCL zone (4th place). But to finish in the top 4, he must have good relationship with the players. So they can play optimally.

it's clear that he's responsible
above all he didn't have such a difficult objective, he has to finish the championship in the top 4 to go to the Champions League, it doesn't seem like such a complicated thing to me
if he doesn't manage to get it, the season is practically wasted, and they've invested a lot of money

Juventus is doing great but finishing in the top four is something that is not realistic because right now looking at the standings on the table the first three teams are occupied and the only place left is the fourth place and there are alot of teams fighting for the fourth place so Juventus  has too be more convincing and more consistent going forward but for the top four spots personally speaking I doubt if Juventus can  finish at the top four spots.

Uruhara I appreciate your correction. The brain is on fire 🔥.

[koang]

Problems regarding players and coaches can sometimes have a big impact on the performance of the team itself. And indeed all of this must be resolved quickly. because if not, it will only result in the team not being in optimal condition. There are quite a lot of cases like this, namely disputes between coaches and players. Sometimes this also has a bad impact on the player. And sometimes in the end there will always be someone eliminated from one of the parties.

Agree. This week Thiago Motta was given an ultimatum by the management... no more experiments moving forward, return the players to their natural roles, field a more logical system, and restore Yildiz and Vlahovic to the starting line-up.
But I think this is beyond pathetic at this level. No serious management will tell a coach to choose certain players over others. lol
You can’t tell him what to do and how to do his job. More complicated...

[ajiz138]

Those who are strong in the domestic league are not necessarily champions in the Champions League, and those who play very well in the Champions League are not necessarily champions in the domestic league.

We always see this in the Champions League where teams usually show different performances between the two competitions. In the sense that they are not very consistent, only a few teams can do it.

Yes, sometimes a team's performance is very different in a very big competition. An example at the moment is Aston Villa, which always plays very well in the UCL, even though in the Premier League it seems Aston Villa is not playing well enough. And conversely Liverpool played well in the domestic league but they were bad in the UCL in the end and had to lose to PSG. Meanwhile, Inter Milan is always almost equal in all competitions.

That is a very good example of what happened this season, and we can't deny it because it really happened at the moment.

It really depends on the team and maybe there is even a role of bad luck. Many teams fail because they are unlucky in the games they play. Not only in the games, sometimes the draw of who will be their opponent is also a matter of luck.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Of course, Motta has the responsibility of the Juventus performance. He must improve Juventus performance because everyone expects a better performance. Unfortunately, Juventus performance is worse in the last match. They never won in the last 2 matches. They are getting far from the scudetto. Even they seems difficult to finish in the top 3. The reasonable target is to finish in UCL zone (4th place). But to finish in the top 4, he must have good relationship with the players. So they can play optimally.

Personally, I have to say one thing: Juve have to wake up. Right now, things are set up so that they don't lose qualification The fight is immense, I don't know, but things are more complicated now in this format, and because of this, it could be said that we are expecting the best Juve to qualify, They are being overtaken. Some say Juve won't qualify,  I say yes, all the problems, no matter how big they are, have a solution, and everything is for the team to move forward as it should be.

[babo]

Agree. This week Thiago Motta was given an ultimatum by the management... no more experiments moving forward, return the players to their natural roles, field a more logical system, and restore Yildiz and Vlahovic to the starting line-up.
But I think this is beyond pathetic at this level. No serious management will tell a coach to choose certain players over others. lol
You can?t tell him what to do and how to do his job. More complicated...

Here finally the management has woken up, Max Allegri was fired for much less and he had had a good season after all.
Now rumours are that he will be the new coach (again) of Milan who can't find peace.
These coaching changes always make me laugh a lot

[pieppiep]

Those who are strong in the domestic league are not necessarily champions in the Champions League, and those who play very well in the Champions League are not necessarily champions in the domestic league.

We always see this in the Champions League where teams usually show different performances between the two competitions. In the sense that they are not very consistent, only a few teams can do it.

Yes, sometimes a team's performance is very different in a very big competition. An example at the moment is Aston Villa, which always plays very well in the UCL, even though in the Premier League it seems Aston Villa is not playing well enough. And conversely Liverpool played well in the domestic league but they were bad in the UCL in the end and had to lose to PSG. Meanwhile, Inter Milan is always almost equal in all competitions.

I personally have never seen a game that can predicted especially if a team is set to feature in different competitions with different personalities. The performances can also be influenced by various aspects such as the level of competition that is calendered to make a match or condition of a certain player. As it has been evident in the case of Lautaro Martínez, there are always those few individuals who are able to make a difference especially in cases where their team requires that all important goal while other teams, despite having good players end up losing. This shows that a team can easily be balanced and indeed that’s the secret to any team with consistency in different competitions. It also implies that each season becomes more interesting as the teams face various difficulties on their way.

[Uruhara]

Those who are strong in the domestic league are not necessarily champions in the Champions League, and those who play very well in the Champions League are not necessarily champions in the domestic league.

We always see this in the Champions League where teams usually show different performances between the two competitions. In the sense that they are not very consistent, only a few teams can do it.

Yes, sometimes a team's performance is very different in a very big competition. An example at the moment is Aston Villa, which always plays very well in the UCL, even though in the Premier League it seems Aston Villa is not playing well enough. And conversely Liverpool played well in the domestic league but they were bad in the UCL in the end and had to lose to PSG. Meanwhile, Inter Milan is always almost equal in all competitions.

That is a very good example of what happened this season, and we can't deny it because it really happened at the moment.

It really depends on the team and maybe there is even a role of bad luck. Many teams fail because they are unlucky in the games they play. Not only in the games, sometimes the draw of who will be their opponent is also a matter of luck.

Well, in essence, there are many factors that make all of this happen. And usually it is about team mentality factors or team mental readiness, about luck or because the coach is just focusing more on one competition or something like that. But I am still always amazed by Inter Milan. Like last season, even though they failed in the UCL, they succeeded in the Domestic league. Then in the season before last season, even though in the domestic league like Serie A they failed, in the UCL they were able to reach the final. And at that time Inter Milan also continued to win the championship trophy in the domestic league. And BTW, Inter Milan rarely misses lifting the trophy. 

[babo]

Inter will certainly have to do something less because if they follow the Champions League and if they follow the championship they cannot dedicate themselves to all the championships and all the competitions so they will leave a little more space for Inter in certain contexts. Obviously I'm talking about the Italian Cup. In my opinion it is better for Inter to focus on the Champions League at the moment. It makes no sense to dedicate yourself to the Italian Cup which is decidedly inferior as a competition.

[koang]

Agree. This week Thiago Motta was given an ultimatum by the management... no more experiments moving forward, return the players to their natural roles, field a more logical system, and restore Yildiz and Vlahovic to the starting line-up.
But I think this is beyond pathetic at this level. No serious management will tell a coach to choose certain players over others. lol
You can?t tell him what to do and how to do his job. More complicated...

Here finally the management has woken up, Max Allegri was fired for much less and he had had a good season after all.
Now rumours are that he will be the new coach (again) of Milan who can't find peace.
These coaching changes always make me laugh a lot

Allegri is a good coach, knows how to handle star players, and also nurtures young talent but Allegri's style of calcio is boring and unattractive.
When Milan signed him, he replaced Pirlo with Montolivo then the coach went to Juve, and won trophies with Pirlo there. Complete sabotage. lol
And I don't understand why the management is pushing so hard narratively for Milan to accept Allegri.

[Uruhara]

Inter will certainly have to do something less because if they follow the Champions League and if they follow the championship they cannot dedicate themselves to all the championships and all the competitions so they will leave a little more space for Inter in certain contexts. Obviously I'm talking about the Italian Cup. In my opinion it is better for Inter to focus on the Champions League at the moment. It makes no sense to dedicate yourself to the Italian Cup which is decidedly inferior as a competition.

Yes, Inter Milan should really focus more on the Champions League. And in the domestic league they only need to focus on Serie A. But every season I see Inter Milan always try their best in all competitions. that's why they always lift the championship trophy every season. It's just that this could be what makes Inter Milan not optimal in the Champions League every season. Now Inter Milan is the only hope as a team that is still in the UCL representing other Italian teams. And I hope Inter Milan can be more total in the UCL this time. Because it has been a long time since Inter Milan no longer won the UCL title.

[ajiz138]

That is a very good example of what happened this season, and we can't deny it because it really happened at the moment.

It really depends on the team and maybe there is even a role of bad luck. Many teams fail because they are unlucky in the games they play. Not only in the games, sometimes the draw of who will be their opponent is also a matter of luck.

Well, in essence, there are many factors that make all of this happen. And usually it is about team mentality factors or team mental readiness, about luck or because the coach is just focusing more on one competition or something like that. But I am still always amazed by Inter Milan. Like last season, even though they failed in the UCL, they succeeded in the Domestic league. Then in the season before last season, even though in the domestic league like Serie A they failed, in the UCL they were able to reach the final. And at that time Inter Milan also continued to win the championship trophy in the domestic league. And BTW, Inter Milan rarely misses lifting the trophy. 

Talking about priorities, I always think that the Champions League and the domestic league are equally important to a team, except for other domestic competitions.

But it doesn't mean that when they have the same priority it will work well, because there are times when they have to fail in one competition and succeed in another. It is very difficult to get a double winner or even a treble winner.

[bounceback]

Talking about priorities, I always think that the Champions League and the domestic league are equally important to a team, except for other domestic competitions.

But it doesn't mean that when they have the same priority it will work well, because there are times when they have to fail in one competition and succeed in another. It is very difficult to get a double winner or even a treble winner.

For any teams still existing in Champion League and have few points left at domestic league will priority for both between domestic league and champion league, but difference with any teams have remaining many points at domestic league will focus at Champion League and must qualify until final round.
Arsenal is one team have many points left in domestic league, they won't loss opportunity without winning any tittle yet in this season after difficulty winning premier league tittle and want qualify until final round in Champion League or become the winner.

[koang]

Talking about priorities, I always think that the Champions League and the domestic league are equally important to a team, except for other domestic competitions.

But it doesn't mean that when they have the same priority it will work well, because there are times when they have to fail in one competition and succeed in another. It is very difficult to get a double winner or even a treble winner.

For any teams still existing in Champion League and have few points left at domestic league will priority for both between domestic league and champion league, but difference with any teams have remaining many points at domestic league will focus at Champion League and must qualify until final round.
Arsenal is one team have many points left in domestic league, they won't loss opportunity without winning any tittle yet in this season after difficulty winning premier league tittle and want qualify until final round in Champion League or become the winner.

I think Inter is a good example of this theory, Arsenal is only meant to exemplify inconsistent teams
Inter is still competing on three fronts and can still win the treble, Inzaghi is working hard to make this possible.
Only four teams can win the European treble this season: Barcelona, Real Madrid, PSG, and Inter Milan.
And It's great to see such competitive teams in the race for the treble.

[Uruhara]

That is a very good example of what happened this season, and we can't deny it because it really happened at the moment.

It really depends on the team and maybe there is even a role of bad luck. Many teams fail because they are unlucky in the games they play. Not only in the games, sometimes the draw of who will be their opponent is also a matter of luck.

Well, in essence, there are many factors that make all of this happen. And usually it is about team mentality factors or team mental readiness, about luck or because the coach is just focusing more on one competition or something like that. But I am still always amazed by Inter Milan. Like last season, even though they failed in the UCL, they succeeded in the Domestic league. Then in the season before last season, even though in the domestic league like Serie A they failed, in the UCL they were able to reach the final. And at that time Inter Milan also continued to win the championship trophy in the domestic league. And BTW, Inter Milan rarely misses lifting the trophy. 

Talking about priorities, I always think that the Champions League and the domestic league are equally important to a team, except for other domestic competitions.

But it doesn't mean that when they have the same priority it will work well, because there are times when they have to fail in one competition and succeed in another. It is very difficult to get a double winner or even a treble winner.

But the fact about Inter Milan in the domestic league is that they quite often get double winners and have even had triple winners. But of course they won't always be able to achieve extraordinary things like that. And they also occasionally need to focus more on bigger competitions that can bring their team a better reputation in Europe. And I think Inter Milan is actually quite ready for that. My hopes may be too high. But all that is because I really like Italian teams.

[sampoerna]

But the fact about Inter Milan in the domestic league is that they quite often get double winners and have even had triple winners. But of course they won't always be able to achieve extraordinary things like that. And they also occasionally need to focus more on bigger competitions that can bring their team a better reputation in Europe. And I think Inter Milan is actually quite ready for that. My hopes may be too high. But all that is because I really like Italian teams.

After several months at the beginning of the season, Inter Milan was in 2nd place because they lost to Napoli's dominance, but this time, they are very serious about making various efforts that ultimately made them occupy the first position in Serie A for now. It's just that they really have to be able to maintain this position because their readiness with Napoli is still quite tight.