[Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread

[bounceback]

Many thought that Dortmund would cause an upset but it never happened because Real Madrid always retain the title when they are in the final, but for BVB it is a great achievement that they are in the final this season despite not being able to face Madrid.

Real Madrid will not let that history be taken away from them, they will continue to carve up the trophy cabinet, but next season we will still be favoring Real Madrid again because they have a good squad.

Never any history or Real Madrid loss in the final match on Champion League, its make me believing 100% for Madrid will win their 15 of Champion League tittle than  Dortmund failed on their last final match season 2013 against Bayern Munich.

Madrid has dominance with composition teams than Dortmund and make them over confidence for winning Champion League trophy, next season they have signed Kylian Mbappe and make more than 80% ratio for winning the Champion League trophy and no doubt for put Madrid on the first list teams as strong candidate become the winner next season.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see Borussia Dortmund sell their valuable players, because that's what I often see almost every season they do. Actually, it doesn't matter either, because after all business will not be separated from football.

But do I think they can't make business and achievement targets work together? that's what they haven't done now. If they don't think about that, then I won't be surprised when they can no longer compete at the top of the Bundesliga.

Dortmund is a team that very often sells their star players. They prefer to get the money than keeping the players. They know the players have the dream to play in a bigger team, Dortmund never hinders their players to move. Even the players move to Bayern Munich, Dortmund has no problem. In same cases, Dortmund star players joined Bayern Munich and become the big players there. It never make Dortmund to be disappointed because they believe they can grow new star players. 

Dortmund isn't in their best shape in this season, there are many teams that can perform well, too. Leverkusen and Stuttgart performed amazing, even Bayern Munich can compete with them. So, It is not surprising to see Dortmund in a bad situation during the previous season. Let's see what Dortmund can do in the next season.

Well, this is also what their supporters are concerned about, because Borussia Dortmund will sell their players even to their rivals in the Bundesliga. And the supporters think this is ridiculous, on the other hand, they also think that Bayern Munich always coups their star players.

But that's what Borussia Dortmund is like, it wouldn't be Borussia Dortmund if they didn't sell their star players. They actually have a very good ability to find new talent, but they only use it for their business interests.

[UNIVERSE]

Never any history or Real Madrid loss in the final match on Champion League, its make me believing 100% for Madrid will win their 15 of Champion League tittle than  Dortmund failed on their last final match season 2013 against Bayern Munich.

If you checked the history of Real Madrid in the UCL final, they already reached the final for 18 times (including the current final). They got 3 defeats, they won 15 UCL finals. Sure, they never got losses in the UCL final since the season 1997-1998. So far, they always won the last 9 UCL finals. It is surely amazing records.

Madrid has dominance with composition teams than Dortmund and make them over confidence for winning Champion League trophy, next season they have signed Kylian Mbappe and make more than 80% ratio for winning the Champion League trophy and no doubt for put Madrid on the first list teams as strong candidate become the winner next season.

Real Madrid always has strong squad. They know very well how to build their squad and choose the right coach to manage the players. Ancelotti understands what the teams wants, they can manage the team wisely. Now, most of the players in Real Madrid are young players, the current squad will last a long time. For the next season, Real Madrid squad looks more convincing because they have Mbappe in their squad.

[salad daging]

Many thought that Dortmund would cause an upset but it never happened because Real Madrid always retain the title when they are in the final, but for BVB it is a great achievement that they are in the final this season despite not being able to face Madrid.

Real Madrid will not let that history be taken away from them, they will continue to carve up the trophy cabinet, but next season we will still be favoring Real Madrid again because they have a good squad.

Never any history or Real Madrid loss in the final match on Champion League, its make me believing 100% for Madrid will win their 15 of Champion League tittle than  Dortmund failed on their last final match season 2013 against Bayern Munich.

Madrid has dominance with composition teams than Dortmund and make them over confidence for winning Champion League trophy, next season they have signed Kylian Mbappe and make more than 80% ratio for winning the Champion League trophy and no doubt for put Madrid on the first list teams as strong candidate become the winner next season.

Real Madrid have never failed in a final in the last 20 years and have always won, so there's no doubt about it.

Real Madrid must lose in the semifinals or before because if it is in the final it will definitely never fail, this team has been nicknamed the king of Europe so I agree with the next season there is Mbappe Real Madrid will be even more powerful.

[ajiz138]

Madrid has dominance with composition teams than Dortmund and make them over confidence for winning Champion League trophy, next season they have signed Kylian Mbappe and make more than 80% ratio for winning the Champion League trophy and no doubt for put Madrid on the first list teams as strong candidate become the winner next season.

Real Madrid always has strong squad. They know very well how to build their squad and choose the right coach to manage the players. Ancelotti understands what the teams wants, they can manage the team wisely. Now, most of the players in Real Madrid are young players, the current squad will last a long time. For the next season, Real Madrid squad looks more convincing because they have Mbappe in their squad.

Real Madrid is a team that can manage its team well, from coaches to players, so that is one of the keys to their success.

They know very well what they have to do if they want to achieve an achievement and this is also supported by good management. Because after all, in a team there must be continuity between management, coaches and players, because if they don't have a good relationship then it will make them fall apart too.

[Captain Corporate]

I really do not think that many people really thought that Dortmund would win, I do not have like all the data in the world on who bet on which team and how much, but I would assume that more people probably bet on Real Madrid to win, and they were pretty right. Sportsbooks do not like those kinds of finals, like last year, and this year, because its usually a great team like City or Madrid, versus "smaller" teams like Inter and Dortmund. Don't get me wrong, both Inter and Dortmund are great teams, just not as great as the other two, those are just insanely better than anyone else in the world.

[Uruhara]

I really do not think that many people really thought that Dortmund would win, I do not have like all the data in the world on who bet on which team and how much, but I would assume that more people probably bet on Real Madrid to win, and they were pretty right. Sportsbooks do not like those kinds of finals, like last year, and this year, because its usually a great team like City or Madrid, versus "smaller" teams like Inter and Dortmund. Don't get me wrong, both Inter and Dortmund are great teams, just not as great as the other two, those are just insanely better than anyone else in the world.

Well in reality both Inter Milan and Dortmund were two teams that we didn't expect at all to qualify for the final. Last season Inter Milan qualified for the final by surprise. And this season Dortmund is also doing the same thing. but the end result is always the same. Namely, they will lose to the favorite team who also qualified for the final. Last season Man City won the final because they beat Inter Milan. And this season Real Madrid won because they managed to beat Dortmund. And yes, next season Real Madrid will be even more difficult to stop after having Mbappe.

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Well in reality both Inter Milan and Dortmund were two teams that we didn't expect at all to qualify for the final. Last season Inter Milan qualified for the final by surprise. And this season Dortmund is also doing the same thing. but the end result is always the same. Namely, they will lose to the favorite team who also qualified for the final. Last season Man City won the final because they beat Inter Milan. And this season Real Madrid won because they managed to beat Dortmund. And yes, next season Real Madrid will be even more difficult to stop after having Mbappe.

Regarding Inter Milan, in fact I see that this season they are better than the previous season, but they couldn't reach the final, even though previously they could achieve that, even though in the end they had to lose too.

However, this is something that is not surprising, because several of the favorite teams actually have to meet in the knockout round matches where they have to beat each other.

[alltalk]

Well, this is also what their supporters are concerned about, because Borussia Dortmund will sell their players even to their rivals in the Bundesliga. And the supporters think this is ridiculous, on the other hand, they also think that Bayern Munich always coups their star players.

Borussia Dortmund do it for many years, they already sold many star players to Bayern Munich. Only new supporters who are surprised with this fact, old supporters must understand it. There is nothing wrong with Bayern Munich, it is okay to give offers to any player. If the players are loyal with Dortmund, they won't move to Bayern Munich. Marco Reus is one of the players who never left Dortmund, it is a perfect example of a loyal player.

But that's what Borussia Dortmund is like, it wouldn't be Borussia Dortmund if they didn't sell their star players. They actually have a very good ability to find new talent, but they only use it for their business interests.

Yep. Dortmund is a seller, they very often sold a star player. But they never stopped to raise other star players. Dortmund is a team that really knows how to make a business in growing star payers. They bought the players with cheap prices and sell them to get huge money.

[Zed0X]

Well, this is also what their supporters are concerned about, because Borussia Dortmund will sell their players even to their rivals in the Bundesliga. And the supporters think this is ridiculous, on the other hand, they also think that Bayern Munich always coups their star players.

Borussia Dortmund do it for many years, they already sold many star players to Bayern Munich. Only new supporters who are surprised with this fact, old supporters must understand it. There is nothing wrong with Bayern Munich, it is okay to give offers to any player.

It's not just the new fans that reacts negatively to that but also their emotional (maybe passionate?) fans. They have their favorites and also want the best for their teams but they do not see things from the team's business perspective. As time tells us, can still remain in the top 4 of Bundesliga and play for CL after selling their top players.

[ajiz138]

It's not just the new fans that reacts negatively to that but also their emotional (maybe passionate?) fans. They have their favorites and also want the best for their teams but they do not see things from the team's business perspective. As time tells us, can still remain in the top 4 of Bundesliga and play for CL after selling their top players.

Maybe their target is just that, competing at the top to be able to get tickets to go to the Champions League, and after they have had enough and are no longer targeting the championship title that their supporters have longed for.

They should also give offerings to the supporters, because we can see how loyal they are to the team, we even know that Borussia Dortmund is one of the teams that has supporters who have very high loyalty to their favorite team.

[UNIVERSE]

Real Madrid is a team that can manage its team well, from coaches to players, so that is one of the keys to their success.

Real Madrid understands about the principle to build a good team. They always find our proper players to be the successors. Not only the president and the coaches who know well to build the team, the scouts also have a big role to select the players. The insight and seriousness in building a team are the keys to Real Madrid success.

Because after all, in a team there must be continuity between management, coaches and players, because if they don't have a good relationship then it will make them fall apart too.

The president or the owner of the club has a big role for the continuity of the club. The club management, coaches, and players are selected by the president or the owner, too. There is no good future of the club if they have no ability to choose the right club management, coaches, and the player. And they must be very serious to choose all the parties of the club by spending a lot of money. The financial of the club is also very crucial here.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Borussia Dortmund sell their valuable players, because that's what I often see almost every season they do. Actually, it doesn't matter either, because after all business will not be separated from football.

But do I think they can't make business and achievement targets work together? that's what they haven't done now. If they don't think about that, then I won't be surprised when they can no longer compete at the top of the Bundesliga.

Dortmund is a team that very often sells their star players. They prefer to get the money than keeping the players. They know the players have the dream to play in a bigger team, Dortmund never hinders their players to move. Even the players move to Bayern Munich, Dortmund has no problem. In same cases, Dortmund star players joined Bayern Munich and become the big players there. It never make Dortmund to be disappointed because they believe they can grow new star players. 

Dortmund isn't in their best shape in this season, there are many teams that can perform well, too. Leverkusen and Stuttgart performed amazing, even Bayern Munich can compete with them. So, It is not surprising to see Dortmund in a bad situation during the previous season. Let's see what Dortmund can do in the next season.

Well, this is also what their supporters are concerned about, because Borussia Dortmund will sell their players even to their rivals in the Bundesliga. And the supporters think this is ridiculous, on the other hand, they also think that Bayern Munich always coups their star players.

But that's what Borussia Dortmund is like, it wouldn't be Borussia Dortmund if they didn't sell their star players. They actually have a very good ability to find new talent, but they only use it for their business interests.

The truth is that it makes me sad that he is ending his player, because it is a team that was consolidated as it is, this season that passed very emotional things happened, what happened with Klopp, what happened with many players who are retiring from German football, the truth is it is the end of a cycle of great football stars and coaches, for me Dortmund is one of the teams that should be respected the most, they have never lost their prestige and have always known how to keep their heads held high, what happened in the UCL was something that is normal, it is not a reason for shame, they played against a team that is very connected with players who are very in tune with everything, for me Dortmund is a worthy representation of  German football.

[vegasus]

Real Madrid is a team that can manage its team well, from coaches to players, so that is one of the keys to their success.

Real Madrid understands about the principle to build a good team. They always find our proper players to be the successors. Not only the president and the coaches who know well to build the team, the scouts also have a big role to select the players. The insight and seriousness in building a team are the keys to Real Madrid success.

It cannot be denied that so far, Real Madrid has always been a solid team. And so far, it seems like they have never been hit by a specific case, such as a financial crisis or something else, right? This is because well management really has an influence. And this makes all units within Real Madrid even better.

Even though it was previously doubted after the era of Ronaldo and his friends, that Real Madrid's performance would decline, that was not proven at all. Because, they have also given birth and have various very talented players again and again. So, Real Madrid remains strong.

But that's what Borussia Dortmund is like, it wouldn't be Borussia Dortmund if they didn't sell their star players. They actually have a very good ability to find new talent, but they only use it for their business interests.

Dortmund has been famous like that for a long time. For some reason, they often sell talented players, whatever the condition. And after moving from Dortmund, many of these players skyrocketed their careers and even became top players who were always introduced by their new clubs. And again, Dortmund will remain like that.

But after they reach the UCL final this season, will they also do the same thing by selling their own players who are being targeted by other clubs? Hmmm, maybe this business is more promising.

[alltalk]

It's not just the new fans that reacts negatively to that but also their emotional (maybe passionate?) fans. They have their favorites and also want the best for their teams but they do not see things from the team's business perspective. As time tells us, can still remain in the top 4 of Bundesliga and play for CL after selling their top players.

I can imagine how the feeling of the fans when their favorite players moving to another team. I was a fan of Ronaldo when he played in Real Madrid, I am very sad when he decided to move to Juventus. I can understand if there are some fanatic fans of Dortmund that feel unsatisfied when the club sell them to Bayern Munich or other teams. Even if there will be new star players, it may not as well as the previous star players. However, Dortmund management has their own way, they always focus on the business. But they are good that they still can survive in the top 5 even if they lose many star players. They even can reach the final UCL this season although they sold Bellingham. I really appreciate Dortmund, this team is amazing.