[Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread

[ajiz138]

Most good coaches knows that the best way to play City is using a defensive method and counter attack, because Pep football pattern is a dominating one and if you feel that you are strong, before you know it they will penetrate your defense because they will always dominate the game and there is nothing you can do to stop them. This was the lesson that Ancelotti learned from his mistakes last two season when he lost to Pep in the semifinals. Arsenal coach also showed Ancelotti how to play City and draw the match.

But the method shown by Arsenal last season was actually much more effective because Arsenal beat Man City several times last season. So the strategy used by Arteta is quite good, but that's only in the domestic league. But Ancelotti and Real Madrid know better the strategies that can be used to beat all the clubs they face. That is the strength of Ancelotti. And yes, he always learns from mistakes and corrects them in the following season. So Real Madrid finally won the title again in the UCL last season.

Each coach has their own strategy to face a team that is considered very strong, they might learn from other teams and adopt the strategy they use. But will it work like before? I don't think so.

They will also definitely adjust based on the squad they have, and they will also give a little touch based on their respective strategies. The same strategy carried out by two different coaches does not guarantee the same thing will happen.

[debra]

I see it as very difficult for City to take the title from Madrid, now Madrid has very good players, and for me with the help of a player with the characteristics of Mbappé it will be much harder, also I think that Ancelotti gave Pep a lesson when they played only defensively, like a good Italian he showed him that Madrid is multifaceted, they can not only play attack, counterattack, when they say they are playing defensively they are a wall, now if they play the same leaving Mbappé alone in point who when he runs leaves everyone in his way, it will be more interesting

Even if Real Madrid has many good players, it doesn't guarantee Real Madrid to play better this season. You must watch their first match in La Liga, they got a surprising result against Mallorca. They got a draw result against a small team in La Liga, it is not impossible if Man City can defeat them in UCL. Mbappe seems to take time to adjust to Real Madrid's game style. Considering the match against Mallorca, it won't be easy for Mbappe to play with his best with Real Madrid.

[alltalk]

Each coach has their own strategy to face a team that is considered very strong, they might learn from other teams and adopt the strategy they use. But will it work like before? I don't think so.

Yep. Every coach has own tactics, specifically when playing against a strong team. Mostly the coach will prefer to play a more defensive if he will face a stronger team. Whether it will work well or not, it purely depends on the performance of the players in the field. Arteta looks having good strategy when they play against Man City. This also can be applied when Arsenal will play against a stronger team in UCL matches.

They will also definitely adjust based on the squad they have, and they will also give a little touch based on their respective strategies. The same strategy carried out by two different coaches does not guarantee the same thing will happen.

If you refer this to Arsenal team, I think Arsenal has great squad. Arteta has quality players in their squad, so it won't be difficult to deal with a strong team like Man City or Real Madrid. But Arteta needs to ensure that Arsenal players having good mentality. This sometimes has a bigger role in a big match.

[ajiz138]

Each coach has their own strategy to face a team that is considered very strong, they might learn from other teams and adopt the strategy they use. But will it work like before? I don't think so.

Yep. Every coach has own tactics, specifically when playing against a strong team. Mostly the coach will prefer to play a more defensive if he will face a stronger team. Whether it will work well or not, it purely depends on the performance of the players in the field. Arteta looks having good strategy when they play against Man City. This also can be applied when Arsenal will play against a stronger team in UCL matches.

They will also definitely adjust based on the squad they have, and they will also give a little touch based on their respective strategies. The same strategy carried out by two different coaches does not guarantee the same thing will happen.

If you refer this to Arsenal team, I think Arsenal has great squad. Arteta has quality players in their squad, so it won't be difficult to deal with a strong team like Man City or Real Madrid. But Arteta needs to ensure that Arsenal players having good mentality. This sometimes has a bigger role in a big match.

Well, a good mentality is also really needed, it's useless for them to have a luxurious squad but they don't have the mentality. At first glance, it has no direct connection to the game, but psychology works in situations like this.

If they go down to the field to win the game, then that will be good for them. But if they go down to the field with a pessimistic feeling, that's what will have a bad impact on their mentality.

[Uruhara]

Well, a good mentality is also really needed, it's useless for them to have a luxurious squad but they don't have the mentality. At first glance, it has no direct connection to the game, but psychology works in situations like this.

If they go down to the field to win the game, then that will be good for them. But if they go down to the field with a pessimistic feeling, that's what will have a bad impact on their mentality.

So true. And actually the biggest concern and weakness in the Arsenal squad is not in the depth of the squad or in the strategy that Arteta uses for the team. But Arsenal's weakness in the last few seasons lies in the mentality of their players themselves. Everything has been proven in several seasons where Arsenal are only able to play well in the domestic league but in big competitions like the UCL they always lose their best performance. As if they weren't a strong team. Even though they should be able to play with the same quality as Man City.

[Sim_card]

Well, a good mentality is also really needed, it's useless for them to have a luxurious squad but they don't have the mentality. At first glance, it has no direct connection to the game, but psychology works in situations like this.

If they go down to the field to win the game, then that will be good for them. But if they go down to the field with a pessimistic feeling, that's what will have a bad impact on their mentality.

So true. And actually the biggest concern and weakness in the Arsenal squad is not in the depth of the squad or in the strategy that Arteta uses for the team. But Arsenal's weakness in the last few seasons lies in the mentality of their players themselves. Everything has been proven in several seasons where Arsenal are only able to play well in the domestic league but in big competitions like the UCL they always lose their best performance. As if they weren't a strong team. Even though they should be able to play with the same quality as Man City.

City is a club that has no fear and wl not panic when playing in UCL with big clubs because the players and coach have the zeal to brk g home the trophy and that is what motivates them. I don't knowable why Arsenal is finding it difficult to understand how to play their opponents in UCL. Maybe it is because they are not use to playing a club from differenteague, it shows that they are weak and only strong with clubs that they are used to in the same league with them.

[pawel7777]

So I've just learned that the group stage of the UCL will be replaced by the new format, the League stage:
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-ne/
with similar changes done to the Europa League and the Conference League.

What's the community consensus on those changes? Do you think it's a step in the right direction? I have mixed feelings about this.

[pawel7777]

I guess we won't see any Turkish teams in the Champions League this season. First, Fenerbahce got eliminated by Lille, and today Galatasaray failed to win against the Swiss champions, Young Boys.
As much as Lille is a strong team from the top of the French league, one of the strongest in Europe, you would expect more from Galatasaray against YB. Galatasaray dominated the league last season, scoring an impressive 102 points, but tonight, they were unable to do anything and the game must've been a disappointment for the Turkish fans.
Something bad happened to Turkish football over the recent years, it could be that due to tough economic situation in the country (high inflation and all that) clubs got poorer and can't attract or retain talented players.

[Captain Corporate]

It is seriously humiliating that we couldn't beat a team that is quarter of our value, and the amount of money we spend just to lose to them is insane when you look at the salaries of both teams and how much money they spend on transfers as well. The reality is that we built a team just for champions league, and we failed to even go there, which means that we spent money that we will not be getting. Galatasaray is a much better team than this and I have no idea why we sucked so badly for both games, don't be fooled by the two goals, that was unexpected, this game we looked like the game could be 5 hours long and we would still not score. Such a terrible game, such a terrible result.

[ajiz138]

Well, a good mentality is also really needed, it's useless for them to have a luxurious squad but they don't have the mentality. At first glance, it has no direct connection to the game, but psychology works in situations like this.

If they go down to the field to win the game, then that will be good for them. But if they go down to the field with a pessimistic feeling, that's what will have a bad impact on their mentality.

So true. And actually the biggest concern and weakness in the Arsenal squad is not in the depth of the squad or in the strategy that Arteta uses for the team. But Arsenal's weakness in the last few seasons lies in the mentality of their players themselves. Everything has been proven in several seasons where Arsenal are only able to play well in the domestic league but in big competitions like the UCL they always lose their best performance. As if they weren't a strong team. Even though they should be able to play with the same quality as Man City.

In the last 2 seasons that I have seen, they always lose their balance when the competition is at the end of the season, that is what ultimately makes them fail to get something very big.

Now I want to see if they are much better or not, but I see there is a positive development that they showed last season. Their mentality is slowly forming, but the problem is that it is not enough to make them win the title.

[Zed0X]

Since your favorite top leagues will be starting with the 2024-2025 season soon, why don't we start placing our vote for this season's winner? The usual favorites are there on the list but feel free to mention if your team is not there.

Polls are locked why don't you open them? So that others can vote for their favorite team.

Inter Milan not in the poll? I think this team has a lot of fans especially for Serie A lovers.

My bad, I came to check the result of the poll but noticed just now that I forgot to unlock it after editing.
Anyway, members can start voting now. Inter Milan already added and the list is still open for your favorite team (if not yet included).

[LUCKMCFLY]

I see it as very difficult for City to take the title from Madrid, now Madrid has very good players, and for me with the help of a player with the characteristics of Mbappé it will be much harder, also I think that Ancelotti gave Pep a lesson when they played only defensively, like a good Italian he showed him that Madrid is multifaceted, they can not only play attack, counterattack, when they say they are playing defensively they are a wall, now if they play the same leaving Mbappé alone in point who when he runs leaves everyone in his way, it will be more interesting

Even if Real Madrid has many good players, it doesn't guarantee Real Madrid to play better this season. You must watch their first match in La Liga, they got a surprising result against Mallorca. They got a draw result against a small team in La Liga, it is not impossible if Man City can defeat them in UCL. Mbappe seems to take time to adjust to Real Madrid's game style. Considering the match against Mallorca, it won't be easy for Mbappe to play with his best with Real Madrid.

You're right, what Madrid did against Mallorca did disconcert me a little. We've seen that they have a great team, but they've been through things like that before. I remember that a long time ago Madrid had a fall like that and even though they had very good players they couldn't win, and most of them were pure stars, and it cost them a lot. By the way, it was when Barcelona had Dinho in their ranks, and wow, in Madrid there was Ronaldo, Zidane, Roberto Carlos, Beckham, among other good ones and they couldn't win. I hope that doesn't happen now.

[bounceback]

Finally 36 teams participants for UEFA Champion League season 2024/25 completed after last three teams Slovan Bratislava, Crvena zvezda and Lille are qualified.
Upcoming few days later will draw and waiting with new format which one team will face each other, are there any big match with phase league format of Champion League because only the top eight teams are directly qualified. The 9th until 24th standings team will face each other on playoff round for getting eight place left qualify to knock out round and new format taken eight matches with four home and four away matches.

[koang]

Finally 36 teams participants for UEFA Champion League season 2024/25 completed after last three teams Slovan Bratislava, Crvena zvezda and Lille are qualified.
Upcoming few days later will draw and waiting with new format which one team will face each other, are there any big match with phase league format of Champion League because only the top eight teams are directly qualified. The 9th until 24th standings team will face each other on playoff round for getting eight place left qualify to knock out round and new format taken eight matches with four home and four away matches.

Yep. New Champions League, new challenges. Big change from the previous.
Every team plays 8 games. 2 opponents from each pot, home and away Against pot 1, pot 2, pot 3, and pot 4 teams.
This season's Champions League is gonna be a fire but no slot for Manchester United and Chelsea, they are not good enough for the Champions League
The Champions League is the creme de la creme of European football

[pawel7777]

Here's the table of all the pots and fixtures for the "eague stage.
Credit to naira for his post on BTT: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498806.msg64476408#msg64476408

The way this table is presented is quite confusing, i.e. the first column listing all the teams is separate to the fixtures part of the table.
But the main takeaway from the tournament structure changes is that the league (or pot) stage will not feature teams playing 2 games against each other (home/away) but, instead, each team will play 8 games against 8 different teams.
Some could say it's not necessarily fair, but I can live with that.