[Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread

[joniboini]

But every time I see Paris Saint Germain in the Champions League, I always doubt them. Well, in this match, Bayern Munich will be more favored than them, it is quite difficult to steal a victory for Paris Saint Germain.

That's not surprising. I think most people also think that way. They underachieved in the UCL so many times, even when they had Mbappe and other star players. Not to mention they failed to find a suitable coach to manage the dressing room and the fans. I think people also say the same thing about City before they won the UCL, at least that's what I heard in my circle.

This proves that so far Real Madrid has relied too much on their main players and not made thorough preparations for their second tier players.

Is there a team that managed to play their bench players without a significant impact on their results? Even City is struggling without Rodri as of now.

[ajiz138]

But every time I see Paris Saint Germain in the Champions League, I always doubt them. Well, in this match, Bayern Munich will be more favored than them, it is quite difficult to steal a victory for Paris Saint Germain.

That's not surprising. I think most people also think that way. They underachieved in the UCL so many times, even when they had Mbappe and other star players. Not to mention they failed to find a suitable coach to manage the dressing room and the fans. I think people also say the same thing about City before they won the UCL, at least that's what I heard in my circle.

Yes, it turns out that there are many people who have the same thoughts as what I think. And that is based on a very basic reason when we look at Paris Saint Germain's performance in the Champions League.

Even now they are also listed as one of the teams that have never won a title in the Champions League, even though they are a giant of Ligue 1. But that alone is not enough to make them achieve something they really want.

[Uruhara]

This proves that so far Real Madrid has relied too much on their main players and not made thorough preparations for their second tier players.

Is there a team that managed to play their bench players without a significant impact on their results? Even City is struggling without Rodri as of now.

This season, it seems like there isn't any. But last season Man City managed to do it. At that time De Bruyne had not returned and then Haaland was also injured. And we know that even last season Man City didn't have Gundogan. But Pep managed to play several second tier players whose quality was not much different from the main players. And at that time, one of Man City's second tier players was Alvarez. but currently if Haaland is injured then Man City will have difficulties because Alvarez has moved. But this season everything looks different. Because Man City even failed to maintain consistency when one of their main players was injured. And Real Madrid actually quite often experiences situations where several of their main players are injured. It's just that it's quite rare for their back line to be hit by a storm of injuries. And that's what makes Real Madrid look unprepared.

[pieppiep]

This proves that so far Real Madrid has relied too much on their main players and not made thorough preparations for their second tier players.

Is there a team that managed to play their bench players without a significant impact on their results? Even City is struggling without Rodri as of now.

This season, it seems like there isn't any. But last season Man City managed to do it. At that time De Bruyne had not returned and then Haaland was also injured. And we know that even last season Man City didn't have Gundogan. But Pep managed to play several second tier players whose quality was not much different from the main players. And at that time, one of Man City's second tier players was Alvarez. but currently if Haaland is injured then Man City will have difficulties because Alvarez has moved. But this season everything looks different. Because Man City even failed to maintain consistency when one of their main players was injured. And Real Madrid actually quite often experiences situations where several of their main players are injured. It's just that it's quite rare for their back line to be hit by a storm of injuries. And that's what makes Real Madrid look unprepared.

In every great team, there is always a period that someone or several important players may get dropped and this is rabbit that challenges the profonndity of the bench and the versatility in the tactics. For teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid this can be seen as part of the nature of the constant evolution of a competition. Thus, it is apparent that backup premiers are highly desirable as well as mandatory to constant team’s performance for the entire campaign. Furthermore, continuity is not achieved by the efficacy of those unique key players, but through the overall organised tactical formation in both offence and defence. Based on this, it is possible to focus on the achievements of this situation – to look for new possibilities in the existing team and move forward.

[Uruhara]

This season, it seems like there isn't any. But last season Man City managed to do it. At that time De Bruyne had not returned and then Haaland was also injured. And we know that even last season Man City didn't have Gundogan. But Pep managed to play several second tier players whose quality was not much different from the main players. And at that time, one of Man City's second tier players was Alvarez. but currently if Haaland is injured then Man City will have difficulties because Alvarez has moved. But this season everything looks different. Because Man City even failed to maintain consistency when one of their main players was injured. And Real Madrid actually quite often experiences situations where several of their main players are injured. It's just that it's quite rare for their back line to be hit by a storm of injuries. And that's what makes Real Madrid look unprepared.

In every great team, there is always a period that someone or several important players may get dropped and this is rabbit that challenges the profonndity of the bench and the versatility in the tactics. For teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid this can be seen as part of the nature of the constant evolution of a competition. Thus, it is apparent that backup premiers are highly desirable as well as mandatory to constant team’s performance for the entire campaign. Furthermore, continuity is not achieved by the efficacy of those unique key players, but through the overall organised tactical formation in both offence and defence. Based on this, it is possible to focus on the achievements of this situation – to look for new possibilities in the existing team and move forward.

The readiness of all teams will really be tested throughout the season. Both in terms of core players and reserve players. But if a team is hit by an injury storm in the sense that the number of injured players is too large then it will still be really difficult to deal with. And currently Man City is even having difficulties because too many of their core players are injured. Real Madrid is also the same, only Real Madrid only had several defenders and midfield players injured. The current condition of Man City is much more worrying. I hope they can get through it well.

[Tribalchief]

The readiness of all teams will really be tested throughout the season. Both in terms of core players and reserve players. But if a team is hit by an injury storm in the sense that the number of injured players is too large then it will still be really difficult to deal with. And currently Man City is even having difficulties because too many of their core players are injured. Real Madrid is also the same, only Real Madrid only had several defenders and midfield players injured. The current condition of Man City is much more worrying. I hope they can get through it well.

I think Manchester city has one problem, and that's the absence of Rodri. So, it's not as if they are currently having too many injuries. Manchester city can of course play without certain players like KDB and Haaland in front, but the absence of Rodri is the beginning of their down fall. And as for Real Madrid, the injury list is definitely a problem. And it's not just a regular injury list, but the injuries of their key players. I'm just waiting to see how Ancelotti will play the next game without his CBs, because it seems only Rudiger is active for the now. Alaba might be fit to return next year.

[Yamzakid]

Manchester city can of course play without certain players like KDB and Haaland in front, but the absence of Rodri is the beginning of their down fall.

I completely disagree with this. Pep Guardiola won't make this mistake because Haaland and Kelvin Debruyne are the team's pillars, and Debruyne provided the majority of the assists that were turned into goals for Manchester City. Haaland is the player with the most goals, and even though Manchester City has a second striker, I don't think he can perform as well as Haaland. given their poor play right now, If Pep Guardiola makes the mistake of benching KDB and Haaland, fans around the world will insult him because the Manchester City does not have a striker like Haaland and the player that'll create assists like KDB.

[Tribalchief]

I completely disagree with this. Pep Guardiola won't make this mistake because Haaland and Kelvin Debruyne are the team's pillars, and Debruyne provided the majority of the assists that were turned into goals for Manchester City. Haaland is the player with the most goals, and even though Manchester City has a second striker, I don't think he can perform as well as Haaland. given their poor play right now, If Pep Guardiola makes the mistake of benching KDB and Haaland, fans around the world will insult him because the Manchester City does not have a striker like Haaland and the player that'll create assists like KDB.

Disagreeing to this seems like you started following up with Manchester city since when Haaland joined. You might want to check out some of city's game before the arrival of Haaland. I'm not saying that these players are not important, but I'm just trying to bring out priorities here. Haven't you watched games where Haaland goes missing?. Since the start of the season, what has become of KDB?. Even Gundogan starts ahead of him(though Gundogan isn't even playing at the level compared to before his previous departure).

I will say it again, Manchester city can win games without KDB and Haaland, but same thing won't happen if Rodri is absent. Ooh I see, it seems you are still using last two season's rating to evaluate the current team. It doesn't work that way. No doubt, KDB is very good, but his performance dropped since two seasons ago (maybe due to that long term injury that he had). I believe you know how to use your search engine, so check out the stats and  make an evaluation.

You've to understand that pep needs a consistent player maker in his team. KDB has been doing that for long, but it seems pep has opted to use a winger this time, and that happens to be savinho.

Haaland on the other hand is also very good, but you and I knows what happens when Manchester city plays against a very defensive side. And, also try to evaluate Manchester city 's last four games that they lost, and see who the true pillar is, because I believe both Haaland and KDB where fit.

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The readiness of all teams will really be tested throughout the season. Both in terms of core players and reserve players. But if a team is hit by an injury storm in the sense that the number of injured players is too large then it will still be really difficult to deal with. And currently Man City is even having difficulties because too many of their core players are injured. Real Madrid is also the same, only Real Madrid only had several defenders and midfield players injured. The current condition of Man City is much more worrying. I hope they can get through it well.

I think Manchester city has one problem, and that's the absence of Rodri. So, it's not as if they are currently having too many injuries. Manchester city can of course play without certain players like KDB and Haaland in front, but the absence of Rodri is the beginning of their down fall. And as for Real Madrid, the injury list is definitely a problem. And it's not just a regular injury list, but the injuries of their key players. I'm just waiting to see how Ancelotti will play the next game without his CBs, because it seems only Rudiger is active for the now. Alaba might be fit to return next year.

The absence of a valuable player for a team will be quite noticeable, especially if they do not have a replacement that is quite comparable to the missing player. So this affects their game.

I agree that Rodri's absence creates an open gap for Manchester City, which ultimately makes their game no longer like before. This actually happened when they lost KDB last season, but they were still able to recover quickly.

[babo]

Manchester city can of course play without certain players like KDB and Haaland in front, but the absence of Rodri is the beginning of their down fall.

I completely disagree with this. Pep Guardiola won't make this mistake because Haaland and Kelvin Debruyne are the team's pillars, and Debruyne provided the majority of the assists that were turned into goals for Manchester City. Haaland is the player with the most goals, and even though Manchester City has a second striker, I don't think he can perform as well as Haaland. given their poor play right now, If Pep Guardiola makes the mistake of benching KDB and Haaland, fans around the world will insult him because the Manchester City does not have a striker like Haaland and the player that'll create assists like KDB.

it could be that he has to rest them, you shouldn't forget that the players play a lot of games and therefore get tired
Leaving him on the bench to rest is therefore not such a stupid idea
maybe Haaland is tired so he is resting him, but on the bench in case he is needed

[Yamzakid]

I completely disagree with this. Pep Guardiola won't make this mistake because Haaland and Kelvin Debruyne are the team's pillars, and Debruyne provided the majority of the assists that were turned into goals for Manchester City. Haaland is the player with the most goals, and even though Manchester City has a second striker, I don't think he can perform as well as Haaland. given their poor play right now, If Pep Guardiola makes the mistake of benching KDB and Haaland, fans around the world will insult him because the Manchester City does not have a striker like Haaland and the player that'll create assists like KDB.

Disagreeing to this seems like you started following up with Manchester city since when Haaland joined. You might want to check out some of city's game before the arrival of Haaland. I'm not saying that these players are not important, but I'm just trying to bring out priorities here. Haven't you watched games where Haaland goes missing?. Since the start of the season, what has become of KDB?. Even Gundogan starts ahead of him(though Gundogan isn't even playing at the level compared to before his previous departure).

It is impossible to compare KDB and Gundugann because, when you look at Debruyne performance in every season, he has more assists than any other Man City player. Also when it comes to scoring goals, since the arrival of KDB no Man City midfielder has ever scored more goals than KDB. I agree with you that there are games where Haaland is missing, but the reason for this is that KDB and Haaland understand each other, and if one of them is not playing, City used to struggle before they win. If you look at their past games this season, you can see that Manchester City used to struggled before they score.
If you look at City's performance at the beginning of the season, they were performing better than they are now. This was due to KDB's presence, because KDB gave Haland the most assists, but since his injury, City has been struggling.

I will say it again, Manchester city can win games without KDB and Haaland, but same thing won't happen if Rodri is absent. Ooh I see, it seems you are still using last two season's rating to evaluate the current team. It doesn't work that way. No doubt, KDB is very good, but his performance dropped since two seasons ago (maybe due to that long term injury that he had). I believe you know how to use your search engine, so check out the stats and  make an evaluation.

What you can tell me is that Rodri is the most active player in Manchester City and is a fantastic defensive midfielder, but he lacks creativity unless he is paired with KDB, that is when they will create more chances. Rodri and other players would not treat the opponent well if KDB and Haaland are not there because City lacks a second striker like Haaland.

[armanda90]

What you can tell me is that Rodri is the most active player in Manchester City and is a fantastic defensive midfielder, but he lacks creativity unless he is paired with KDB, that is when they will create more chances. Rodri and other players would not treat the opponent well if KDB and Haaland are not there because City lacks a second striker like Haaland.

I think completing when De bruyne and Rodry play together how to make Manchester City midfielder get creativity, Rodry have strong with defense but several time success scoring amazing goals from out penalty box. But De Bruyne more creativities players for Manchester City how creating assists and make easily for Haaland scoring goals every match when De Bruyne not absent.
Manchester City must adapt well without Rodry and they have Kovacic or Gundogan are playing well for holding midfielder, right now De Bruyne have return from injury and City need to win in champion league after defeating by Sporting Lisbon as last game week match.

[ajiz138]

In the Premier League, Liverpool just recorded another win when facing Southampton. The next match is against Real Madrid in the Champions League. This is clearly not easy for them.

I am curious about them, whether they will be able to maintain their winning record in this Champions League, or will they suffer their first defeat. Honestly, it is difficult to predict this match, because both teams that will meet are big teams, although one of them is in a bad situation.

[Uruhara]

Don't forget, friends, today UCL is being held again. There will be around 9 matches today. And the match that most interests us all is probably the same match between Bayern and PSG. It will definitely be a fierce match. And I'm curious which team will be your favorite in this match?

Bayern as the host might be the favorite. And I might take that risk.

[pieppiep]

In the Premier League, Liverpool just recorded another win when facing Southampton. The next match is against Real Madrid in the Champions League. This is clearly not easy for them.

I am curious about them, whether they will be able to maintain their winning record in this Champions League, or will they suffer their first defeat. Honestly, it is difficult to predict this match, because both teams that will meet are big teams, although one of them is in a bad situation.

While Real Madrid presents a big test for a Liverpool team that has impressed in the domestic league, so impressive are they they have the quality and potential to come away with a positive result. A note within a note is every game in the tournament, but I think the team is very decisive, the mentality of winning is decisive, and a strategy is very decisive. We can still see a fierce match because Real Madrid are still a team full of experience and potential. But if Liverpool can offer enough defence, as well as focus, they can remain in the game and make a surprise match.