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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1125 on: November 29, 2024, 01:12:15 PM »
Liverpool under klopp play a counter football, which is unlike slot that plays a possession type of football and counter as well. The thing is, this Liverpool team is already used to counter due to the fast moving players. And as for the madrid game against Liverpool, I believe no one was actually expecting Madrid to win right?, Because they haven't being that good this season. Mbappe was literally laughed at on social media. Missing penalty even made things worst for him. I'm actually feeling bad for him because he has really struggled to meet up to expectations.
Surely every coach has a different philosophy with their game. But what I appreciate is when Arne Slot did it in a good way, their transition was not so visible from Klopp's coaching relay to Slot.

This is a success, because something that was worried at the beginning did not happen and even Liverpool could show something extraordinary from the game they showed under Slot's direction.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1125 on: November 29, 2024, 01:12:15 PM »

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1126 on: November 29, 2024, 04:36:27 PM »
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 both klopp and Slot play a similar kind of football that is why this Liverpool team is doing well because klopp too played a possession and counter football which is almost thesame kind of game pattern, both both manegers played counter attack and pressing their opponent so the player's are already used to that and it's working perfectly good for the team in general I the departure of klopp is not really felt by the club because the new coach is playing just like klopp and that is what others club's are lacking when a coach is going they should bring a coach that has similar playing pattern to the one that is leaving so that the player's can quickly adapt to the playing pattern of the new coach

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1127 on: November 29, 2024, 06:21:46 PM »
Yep, because there's a new Don in town.
Don Arne's flawless Champions League campaign continues following his victory over Don Carlo :)
Slot changes the system, There's a lot of confidence in and around the team. Not just the player but the team.
Sometimes I don't even get to predict the approach he wants to take, something I can guess during Klopp's time at Liverpool.
Liverpool played well in this game, it’s not like Madrid has the worst performance just that Liverpool is that good.

Liverpool under klopp play a counter football, which is unlike slot that plays a possession type of football and counter as well. The thing is, this Liverpool team is already used to counter due to the fast moving players. And as for the madrid game against Liverpool, I believe no one was actually expecting Madrid to win right?, Because they haven't being that good this season. Mbappe was literally laughed at on social media. Missing penalty even made things worst for him. I'm actually feeling bad for him because he has really struggled to meet up to expectations.

Yeah, you are right. Slot attacking style and impressive performances have caught the eye, everyone's touch is near perfect too.
Seeing how they continue to develop and perform throughout the season is exciting.

I'm genuinely concerned about what’s going on with Mbappé. A player of his caliber fading like this doesn’t sit right with me but we know, Real Madrid is not PSG [regarding the pressure]. There is a different environment and Ancelotti isn’t helping by starting him despite poor performances. It was obvious that night something was wrong with him.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1128 on: November 29, 2024, 10:47:50 PM »
I'm genuinely concerned about what’s going on with Mbappé. A player of his caliber fading like this doesn’t sit right with me but we know, Real Madrid is not PSG [regarding the pressure]. There is a different environment and Ancelotti isn’t helping by starting him despite poor performances. It was obvious that night something was wrong with him.

I believe no player will want to be in his place currently. The truth is, football sometimes works in a mysterious way. That's why, somethings, we see some players that are 100% prone to injury, but when they join another club, they play well without injury. A player like Emile Smith Rowe is a perfect example. Since leaving Arsenal to join Fulham, he has been consistent, which is unlike when he was with Arsenal.

While there are other players that perform well in a club, but fail to replicate same in other clubs, and mbappe happens to be in this position. It's so sad.
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1129 on: November 30, 2024, 09:28:36 AM »
It's weird to see Real Madrid so low in the UCL table, it's clearly not their best season, but they still have 3 games left to play, which are:
Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)

Salzburg should be an easy 3 points. Atalanta is really strong this season, currently 2nd in Serie A and 5th in the UCL, it will be hard to earn any points on them. Brest is struggling in Ligue 1 with only 4 wins and 7 losses, they are doing OK in the UCL but that's due to the 3 wins over a relatively weak team, I think Real should be able to win.
I expect Real to finish the league stage with at least 12 points, which would put them in the play-offs.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1130 on: November 30, 2024, 10:43:50 PM »
I'm genuinely concerned about what’s going on with Mbappé. A player of his caliber fading like this doesn’t sit right with me but we know, Real Madrid is not PSG [regarding the pressure]. There is a different environment and Ancelotti isn’t helping by starting him despite poor performances. It was obvious that night something was wrong with him.

I believe no player will want to be in his place currently. The truth is, football sometimes works in a mysterious way. That's why, somethings, we see some players that are 100% prone to injury, but when they join another club, they play well without injury. A player like Emile Smith Rowe is a perfect example. Since leaving Arsenal to join Fulham, he has been consistent, which is unlike when he was with Arsenal.

While there are other players that perform well in a club, but fail to replicate same in other clubs, and mbappe happens to be in this position. It's so sad.

The mystery of football :) And yeah, Emile Smith Rowe has been a great addition to Fulham, he's finally getting a chance to play in the first team consistently and I think he's found his level and is enjoying his time in West London.
No pressure at Fulham like at Arsenal, he’s clearly enjoying his football, Very bittersweet to watch Emile Smith Rowe flourish at Fulham.
Oh wait.. next week it’s Saka vs Emile Smith Rowe 8)

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1131 on: November 30, 2024, 11:54:47 PM »
Liverpool under klopp play a counter football, which is unlike slot that plays a possession type of football and counter as well. The thing is, this Liverpool team is already used to counter due to the fast moving players. And as for the madrid game against Liverpool, I believe no one was actually expecting Madrid to win right?, Because they haven't being that good this season. Mbappe was literally laughed at on social media. Missing penalty even made things worst for him. I'm actually feeling bad for him because he has really struggled to meet up to expectations.
Surely every coach has a different philosophy with their game. But what I appreciate is when Arne Slot did it in a good way, their transition was not so visible from Klopp's coaching relay to Slot.

This is a success, because something that was worried at the beginning did not happen and even Liverpool could show something extraordinary from the game they showed under Slot's direction.
I even marveled how Arne Slot is making good use of Liverpool players without making any new signings of players other than sticking with Liverpool players Klopp left in the team.

There are coaches it would be, they will try to sign new players or have a poor start at the beginning of the season. Here we are seeing a beautiful performance from Liverpool in Premier League and Champions League matches. They are even topping both leagues, being the title race contenders of both leagues

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1131 on: November 30, 2024, 11:54:47 PM »


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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1132 on: December 01, 2024, 12:47:33 PM »
It's weird to see Real Madrid so low in the UCL table, it's clearly not their best season, but they still have 3 games left to play, which are:
Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)

Salzburg should be an easy 3 points. Atalanta is really strong this season, currently 2nd in Serie A and 5th in the UCL, it will be hard to earn any points on them. Brest is struggling in Ligue 1 with only 4 wins and 7 losses, they are doing OK in the UCL but that's due to the 3 wins over a relatively weak team, I think Real should be able to win.
I expect Real to finish the league stage with at least 12 points, which would put them in the play-offs.
My hope is the same, namely that Real Madrid can qualify for the next stage. because I'm also not used to seeing Real Madrid have a pretty bad performance in the UCL. 3 defeats from 5 matches really makes Real Madrid look like they are not Real Madrid. Against Atalanta it might be difficult but against Brest and Salzburg it shouldn't be that difficult for Real Madrid. So you should get full points from these two matches. And it would be great if Real Madrid also managed to beat Atalanta.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1133 on: December 01, 2024, 01:08:14 PM »
Surely every coach has a different philosophy with their game. But what I appreciate is when Arne Slot did it in a good way, their transition was not so visible from Klopp's coaching relay to Slot.

This is a success, because something that was worried at the beginning did not happen and even Liverpool could show something extraordinary from the game they showed under Slot's direction.
I even marveled how Arne Slot is making good use of Liverpool players without making any new signings of players other than sticking with Liverpool players Klopp left in the team.

There are coaches it would be, they will try to sign new players or have a poor start at the beginning of the season. Here we are seeing a beautiful performance from Liverpool in Premier League and Champions League matches. They are even topping both leagues, being the title race contenders of both leagues
I see there are advantages here, one of which is the chemistry of the players has been created so that it is very beneficial for Arne Slot when he does not make many major changes from within his squad.

It is undeniable that chemistry is one of the things that can make a team successful and it will be very helpful for the coach. Because the coach can more easily implement the desired strategy when his players already have very good chemistry.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1134 on: December 01, 2024, 03:20:04 PM »
It's weird to see Real Madrid so low in the UCL table, it's clearly not their best season, but they still have 3 games left to play, which are:
Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)

Salzburg should be an easy 3 points. Atalanta is really strong this season, currently 2nd in Serie A and 5th in the UCL, it will be hard to earn any points on them. Brest is struggling in Ligue 1 with only 4 wins and 7 losses, they are doing OK in the UCL but that's due to the 3 wins over a relatively weak team, I think Real should be able to win.
I expect Real to finish the league stage with at least 12 points, which would put them in the play-offs.
My hope is the same, namely that Real Madrid can qualify for the next stage. because I'm also not used to seeing Real Madrid have a pretty bad performance in the UCL. 3 defeats from 5 matches really makes Real Madrid look like they are not Real Madrid. Against Atalanta it might be difficult but against Brest and Salzburg it shouldn't be that difficult for Real Madrid. So you should get full points from these two matches. And it would be great if Real Madrid also managed to beat Atalanta.

I like the part where the wingers have the ball but nobody is in the box.. Or when they are on a counter but pass the ball backward or laterally for no reason. lol
Without Kross Madrid is just an ordinary club and even worse without Vini then Mbappe came and the team went to shit.
I hate to sound pessimistic but I think Madrid should focus on La Liga now. They have a chance there. It's over for them in the Champions League. IMO

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1135 on: December 01, 2024, 09:31:32 PM »
It's weird to see Real Madrid so low in the UCL table, it's clearly not their best season, but they still have 3 games left to play, which are:
Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)
My prediction is that the remaining 3 matches will be won by Real Madrid.
But we never know the results later, but Real Madrid is now under performance.

After this result, it can be seen whether Real Madrid will qualify directly or continue this play-off round also depends on the victory of other teams because other clubs are trying to win points to qualify so as not to enter the playof zone.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1136 on: December 01, 2024, 09:34:11 PM »
It's weird to see Real Madrid so low in the UCL table, it's clearly not their best season, but they still have 3 games left to play, which are:
Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)

Salzburg should be an easy 3 points. Atalanta is really strong this season, currently 2nd in Serie A and 5th in the UCL, it will be hard to earn any points on them. Brest is struggling in Ligue 1 with only 4 wins and 7 losses, they are doing OK in the UCL but that's due to the 3 wins over a relatively weak team, I think Real should be able to win.
I expect Real to finish the league stage with at least 12 points, which would put them in the play-offs.
My hope is the same, namely that Real Madrid can qualify for the next stage. because I'm also not used to seeing Real Madrid have a pretty bad performance in the UCL. 3 defeats from 5 matches really makes Real Madrid look like they are not Real Madrid. Against Atalanta it might be difficult but against Brest and Salzburg it shouldn't be that difficult for Real Madrid. So you should get full points from these two matches. And it would be great if Real Madrid also managed to beat Atalanta.

I like the part where the wingers have the ball but nobody is in the box.. Or when they are on a counter but pass the ball backward or laterally for no reason. lol
Without Kross Madrid is just an ordinary club and even worse without Vini then Mbappe came and the team went to shit.
I hate to sound pessimistic but I think Madrid should focus on La Liga now. They have a chance there. It's over for them in the Champions League. IMO
I don't think that it is over yet for Madrid despite their poor performance in most of their UCL matches, because if they lose to Atalanta, and win the rest of their matches, Madrid might qualify with play off for the best losers. However, I think there's more hope for Madrid in Laliga than UCL, because Barcelona have failed to keep up with their consistency.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1137 on: December 01, 2024, 10:56:40 PM »
both klopp and Slot play a similar kind of football that is why this Liverpool team is doing well because klopp too played a possession and counter football which is almost thesame kind of game pattern, both both manegers played counter attack and pressing their opponent so the player's are already used to that and it's working perfectly good for the team in general I the departure of klopp is not really felt by the club because the new coach is playing just like klopp and that is what others club's are lacking when a coach is going they should bring a coach that has similar playing pattern to the one that is leaving so that the player's can quickly adapt to the playing pattern of the new coach
I think huge difference tactician between Klopp and Arne Slot then impact both of them for Liverpool, under Arne Slot era have instant impact how Liverpool dominance not only in premier league but also Liverpool success winning all matches in Champion League.
Must memorize under Arne Slot Liverpool not make huge recruitment new player and only few players but success bring dominance Liverpool in premier league from Manchester City and seems bigger potential for winning domestic league trophy in this season.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1138 on: December 02, 2024, 11:46:42 AM »
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 both klopp and Slot play a similar kind of football that is why this Liverpool team is doing well because klopp too played a possession and counter football which is almost thesame kind of game pattern, both both manegers played counter attack and pressing their opponent so the player's are already used to that and it's working perfectly good for the team in general I the departure of klopp is not really felt by the club because the new coach is playing just like klopp and that is what others club's are lacking when a coach is going they should bring a coach that has similar playing pattern to the one that is leaving so that the player's can quickly adapt to the playing pattern of the new coach
Well, basically Arne Slot and Jurgen Klopp have almost the same coaching style and indeed this was prepared from the start before Klopp left. And Klopp also seemed very happy when Slot was the name of the coach who would replace him. and the players at Liverpool don't need much adaptation because there haven't been many changes at the club apart from the coach who also has the same pattern and strategy as Klopp. Even Liverpool was not very active in adding new players in the transfer market yesterday. And this is what makes the Liverpool squad remain the same and can develop more maturely because there are no updates that require a lot of adaptation there.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1139 on: December 03, 2024, 09:18:00 AM »
I don't think that it is over yet for Madrid despite their poor performance in most of their UCL matches, because if they lose to Atalanta, and win the rest of their matches, Madrid might qualify with play off for the best losers. However, I think there's more hope for Madrid in Laliga than UCL, because Barcelona have failed to keep up with their consistency.

Mathematically, Yes, Madrid still has a chance of qualifying, perhaps through the playoffs, but with three matches remaining, Madrid must win all matches to increase their chances.
However, it seems that the new format of the Champions League this season is very difficult for Real Madrid.
And Carlo Ancelotti's job has been made even harder after losing Vinicius Junior and Rodrygo to injury.

 

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