[Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread

[LUCKMCFLY]

I'm genuinely concerned about what’s going on with Mbappé. A player of his caliber fading like this doesn’t sit right with me but we know, Real Madrid is not PSG [regarding the pressure]. There is a different environment and Ancelotti isn’t helping by starting him despite poor performances. It was obvious that night something was wrong with him.

The best answer to that is simple, don't put him in as a starter, he's not up to par yet, they should go with the lineup they had before he arrived at Madrid, for me Vinicius does 100% better than him, but that's my opinion, when something goes wrong it wouldn't hurt to put Mbappe in to play, but when the game has developed better, because the truth is he's not doing anything, you can't see that he's playing with effort, with desire, and it's a shame that he doesn't take advantage of such an opportunity that many would like to have, if he's there, he has to improve, if not, unfortunately he shouldn't be a starter.

[LUCKMCFLY]

You should leave Mourinho out of this and not think of him coming back because he is currently doing great in fenarbach in turkey the problem with Mourinho is that his style of football has been outdated and he can't make any meaningful progress with his defensive kind of football one thing he needs to know is that football is dynamic and also evolving that's what he has come to terms with if Mourinho is to make any meaningful progress in his carrier going forward then he has to change tactics and play more of an attacking kind of football as the era of defending and getting teams on the counter is gone now adays team's play possession and pressing football he is also struggling with this his style of play in turkey and if he continues this way I see him being sacked again in turkey

Well I wouldn't dare to say that their football is obsolete just because it is more focused on being defensive, because the most defensive football in the world is the Italian one and it still seems that it gives good results, I think that Mou's moment could be any one, rather what Mou is missing is that he links other strategies that are more aggressive but maintaining a defensive focus because the counterattacks that he plans are very effective, but instead of focusing on a game from the middle down, they should do it from the middle up, always pressing, that's all I can say about him and that clearly he could direct not only in Turkey but in any elite team in the world.

[ajiz138]

You should leave Mourinho out of this and not think of him coming back because he is currently doing great in fenarbach in turkey the problem with Mourinho is that his style of football has been outdated and he can't make any meaningful progress with his defensive kind of football one thing he needs to know is that football is dynamic and also evolving that's what he has come to terms with if Mourinho is to make any meaningful progress in his carrier going forward then he has to change tactics and play more of an attacking kind of football as the era of defending and getting teams on the counter is gone now adays team's play possession and pressing football he is also struggling with this his style of play in turkey and if he continues this way I see him being sacked again in turkey

Well I wouldn't dare to say that their football is obsolete just because it is more focused on being defensive, because the most defensive football in the world is the Italian one and it still seems that it gives good results, I think that Mou's moment could be any one, rather what Mou is missing is that he links other strategies that are more aggressive but maintaining a defensive focus because the counterattacks that he plans are very effective, but instead of focusing on a game from the middle down, they should do it from the middle up, always pressing, that's all I can say about him and that clearly he could direct not only in Turkey but in any elite team in the world.

There is always a debate about this, because it depends on strategy and each coach has his own style. Regarding Mourinho, some people say so, but some others say different things.

I personally can't say this is right or wrong, because when you win there won't be a discussion like this. This only happens when the team handled by Mourinho loses. So overall I think this is subjective.

[Agbe]

You should leave Mourinho out of this and not think of him coming back because he is currently doing great in fenarbach in turkey the problem with Mourinho is that his style of football has been outdated and he can't make any meaningful progress with his defensive kind of football one thing he needs to know is that football is dynamic and also evolving that's what he has come to terms with if Mourinho is to make any meaningful progress in his carrier going forward then he has to change tactics and play more of an attacking kind of football as the era of defending and getting teams on the counter is gone now adays team's play possession and pressing football he is also struggling with this his style of play in turkey and if he continues this way I see him being sacked again in turkey

Well I wouldn't dare to say that their football is obsolete just because it is more focused on being defensive, because the most defensive football in the world is the Italian one and it still seems that it gives good results, I think that Mou's moment could be any one, rather what Mou is missing is that he links other strategies that are more aggressive but maintaining a defensive focus because the counterattacks that he plans are very effective, but instead of focusing on a game from the middle down, they should do it from the middle up, always pressing, that's all I can say about him and that clearly he could direct not only in Turkey but in any elite team in the world.

There is always a debate about this, because it depends on strategy and each coach has his own style. Regarding Mourinho, some people say so, but some others say different things.

I personally can't say this is right or wrong, because when you win there won't be a discussion like this. This only happens when the team handled by Mourinho loses. So overall I think this is subjective.

weather subjective or not the fact is football has really changed allot few years now that is why coaches like pep is dominant any league he goes that's simple traceable to his approach and style of possession and attracting kind of play yes you can defend and get results but that is not guarantee that your going to be doing well with that kind of pattern of play because you can't be defending and start building from the back in football right now allot of teams are strengthening their attack so when you're defense is cut open you will definitely suffer and that is what is happening to Mourinho

[LUCKMCFLY]

weather subjective or not the fact is football has really changed allot few years now that is why coaches like pep is dominant any league he goes that's simple traceable to his approach and style of possession and attracting kind of play yes you can defend and get results but that is not guarantee that your going to be doing well with that kind of pattern of play because you can't be defending and start building from the back in football right now allot of teams are strengthening their attack so when you're defense is cut open you will definitely suffer and that is what is happening to Mourinho

Well, you can say that up until now Pep has been seen to have done much more than Mourinho, not for nothing but every time City plays poor Pep feels those games as if he were right there playing, this could mean that Coah is going through a lot of anxiety problems, at least they won 3 points in the PL, which is why he can sleep well after a very losing streak, but there is still a long way to go, I know that teams go through disappointments, but Man City are defending Champions, they must do something quickly , because as far as I know, they want to be champions again.

[ajiz138]

There is always a debate about this, because it depends on strategy and each coach has his own style. Regarding Mourinho, some people say so, but some others say different things.

I personally can't say this is right or wrong, because when you win there won't be a discussion like this. This only happens when the team handled by Mourinho loses. So overall I think this is subjective.

weather subjective or not the fact is football has really changed allot few years now that is why coaches like pep is dominant any league he goes that's simple traceable to his approach and style of possession and attracting kind of play yes you can defend and get results but that is not guarantee that your going to be doing well with that kind of pattern of play because you can't be defending and start building from the back in football right now allot of teams are strengthening their attack so when you're defense is cut open you will definitely suffer and that is what is happening to Mourinho

I remember when Mourinho was at Real Madrid, at that time he was criticized a lot for the strategy he implemented, and in one match (I don't remember which team it was against) and at that time he implemented tactics that were not in accordance with his wishes, the result was they lost.

Here it became a weapon for Mou that with a strategy that was not in accordance with what he thought did not make his team play better.

[koang]

I'm genuinely concerned about what’s going on with Mbappé. A player of his caliber fading like this doesn’t sit right with me but we know, Real Madrid is not PSG [regarding the pressure]. There is a different environment and Ancelotti isn’t helping by starting him despite poor performances. It was obvious that night something was wrong with him.

The best answer to that is simple, don't put him in as a starter, he's not up to par yet, they should go with the lineup they had before he arrived at Madrid, for me Vinicius does 100% better than him, but that's my opinion, when something goes wrong it wouldn't hurt to put Mbappe in to play, but when the game has developed better, because the truth is he's not doing anything, you can't see that he's playing with effort, with desire, and it's a shame that he doesn't take advantage of such an opportunity that many would like to have, if he's there, he has to improve, if not, unfortunately he shouldn't be a starter.

Yep, It should be a heat map for Mbappe for a few games, and never to touch a penalty again, he must eat the bench until he's serious.
It's time to admit that he has destroyed the team, it's time to put him on the bench and give Endrick space.
But the world doesn’t work like that. Mbappe is a player wanted by the president directly, there’s no way the coach can bench him.

[Sim_card]

I just finished watching Liverpool match versus Girona, and it was very interesting. Only one scored by Sallah through a penalty kick made the difference in the match as Liverpool has won all their matches. In the next few minutes, Real Madrid vs Atalanta match will kick off and that's the match of the day.

[salad daging]

I just finished watching Liverpool match versus Girona, and it was very interesting. Only one scored by Sallah through a penalty kick made the difference in the match as Liverpool has won all their matches. In the next few minutes, Real Madrid vs Atalanta match will kick off and that's the match of the day.

Liverpool became an unbeaten team for 6 matches, it is interesting that this team really showed great performance, although 1 goal against Girona but it brought full points.

Atalanta vs Real Madrid 1 goal led by Madrid through Mbappe's goal.
But why was Mbappe substituted? Is he injured? Like it's not bad? I have to see this news.

[Agbe]

I just finished watching Liverpool match versus Girona, and it was very interesting. Only one scored by Sallah through a penalty kick made the difference in the match as Liverpool has won all their matches. In the next few minutes, Real Madrid vs Atalanta match will kick off and that's the match of the day.

Liverpool became an unbeaten team for 6 matches, it is interesting that this team really showed great performance, although 1 goal against Girona but it brought full points.

Atalanta vs Real Madrid 1 goal led by Madrid through Mbappe's goal.
But why was Mbappe substituted? Is he injured? Like it's not bad? I have to see this news.

Nice win for Liverpool this night with a convincing 1:0 victory over Girona this is one of Liverpool best start in the champion's league Hans slopt is really doing a great job at Liverpool,  the interesting part of it is that Liverpool is playing just like when they were under klopp with high pressing kind of game, even though they didn't score much goals today it was really a convincing win for Liverpool with three points on the bag for therm it will help them on the table standing in the champion's league this season knowing that the format has changed unlike previous years where it used to be in groups of four teams each

[Zed0X]

Atalanta making it difficult for Madrid to gain three points and improve their position in the knock off stage With how aggressive they are playing now and enough time to play, there's a high likelihood of a 3-3 draw.

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But why was Mbappe substituted? Is he injured? Like it's not bad? I have to see this news.

Yeah, he appears to be injured but we'll have to wait for an official statement to explain the extent of the injury.

[sampoerna]

Atalanta vs Real Madrid 1 goal led by Madrid through Mbappe's goal.
But why was Mbappe substituted? Is he injured? Like it's not bad? I have to see this news.

The final result, Real Madrid won against Atalanta with a score of 2 - 3


Atalanta almost equalized after their second goal in the 65th minute by Ademoia Lookman. However, in the end, Real Madrid was able to maintain the score until the end.

Very impressed with Vini JR who just returned from injury, and immediately contributed 1 goal and an assist too. This time, the Real Madrid trio Mbappe, Vini JR, and Bellingham made the fans satisfied with their contributions.

[pawel7777]

Atalanta and Real put on a good show tonight. Real with 3-2 win, but I think a draw would be a fairer result. And they would be splitting points if not for the wasted chance by Retegui in the additional time.

Liverpool with another win. They are unstoppable in the UCL this season, with six straight wins.

Odds for all games of tomorrow's round (from duelbits):


Pretty decent payout for Barcelona (x1.90). Their performance in La Liga has dropped a bit recently, but they are still at the top of the table. Dortmund is definitely underperforming in the Bundesliga, but they are doing really well in the Champions League, at least so far (4 wins and 1 loss, same as Barcelona).

[20Bet]

As we may noticed, Dortmund has problems with consistency and injuries, but their strong home supporters at Signal Iduna Park will give them a nice boost tonight. Although Barcelona is leading La Liga, their players look and some of them like Marc-Andre ter Stegen and Ansu Fati are still injured (high % Ronald Araujo will be back today). Well, I believe Dortmund will win 3-2 because of their home advantage.

[Uruhara]

As we may noticed, Dortmund has problems with consistency and injuries, but their strong home supporters at Signal Iduna Park will give them a nice boost tonight. Although Barcelona is leading La Liga, their players look and some of them like Marc-Andre ter Stegen and Ansu Fati are still injured (high % Ronald Araujo will be back today). Well, I believe Dortmund will win 3-2 because of their home advantage.

I might have a different prediction. Because I think Barcelona will really win this match. In fact, I estimate that Barcelona will score more than 2 goals. Dortmund might be a very tough opponent. In fact, their toughness was able to surprise everyone last season because this team made it to the final in the UCL last season. but I think Barcelona is still much tougher. And yes I will favorite Barcelona.