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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1185 on: December 15, 2024, 01:35:31 PM »
Well some people say KDB is the key to Manchester City's game, and that's true because when they lost this player, Manchester City slipped a bit. But in a short time they were able to overcome it.

However, when Rodri was lost it was more pronounced, I don't mean to compare the two, because they both contributed. However, some people started to say that Rodri was the key to Manchester City's game.
Both player's are exceptional player's in Manchester city but let not compare because kdb has been the main engine room of Manchester city and I don't personally think that it's because of any of the players that they are currently struggling yes they players have there influence in the team but looking at the city situation critically I can say that they have been in their peak for a while and it's natural that they will experience this kind of situation so it will take a while before they will get back to their former glory, because even  if Rodri come back today Manchester city is going to still struggle
You are right, they were at their peak, especially when they won the Champions League for the first time, that was their peak. Well after that the decline was felt, and this season it is even more visible.

I am afraid this has something to do with the psychology of the players, I mean when they are at their peak, sometimes they do things they shouldn't do, like underestimating opponents and so on, and psychologically that can happen.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1186 on: December 15, 2024, 08:19:06 PM »
Well some people say KDB is the key to Manchester City's game, and that's true because when they lost this player, Manchester City slipped a bit. But in a short time they were able to overcome it.

However, when Rodri was lost it was more pronounced, I don't mean to compare the two, because they both contributed. However, some people started to say that Rodri was the key to Manchester City's game.
Both player's are exceptional player's in Manchester city but let not compare because kdb has been the main engine room of Manchester city and I don't personally think that it's because of any of the players that they are currently struggling yes they players have there influence in the team but looking at the city situation critically I can say that they have been in their peak for a while and it's natural that they will experience this kind of situation so it will take a while before they will get back to their former glory, because even  if Rodri come back today Manchester city is going to still struggle
You are right, they were at their peak, especially when they won the Champions League for the first time, that was their peak. Well after that the decline was felt, and this season it is even more visible.

I am afraid this has something to do with the psychology of the players, I mean when they are at their peak, sometimes they do things they shouldn't do, like underestimating opponents and so on, and psychologically that can happen.
I don't think so, the problem is that most clubs have understood their game pattern and how to outsmart them on the field to take advantage of them. Pep needs to try a new game pattern and see if that will work for him. It's useless having all your players back and still losing. Imagine United won City today from one goal down.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1187 on: December 16, 2024, 02:21:59 PM »

You are right, they were at their peak, especially when they won the Champions League for the first time, that was their peak. Well after that the decline was felt, and this season it is even more visible.

I am afraid this has something to do with the psychology of the players, I mean when they are at their peak, sometimes they do things they shouldn't do, like underestimating opponents and so on, and psychologically that can happen.
Your theory could be correct. And maybe it could have been like that at first. Or it could also be because this team is too used to good results, so when they experience bad results their self-confidence easily falls. Because they are not used to losing. So it is quite difficult to restore their self-confidence. This could happen not to the players but to the coach, namely Pep, who even looks quite burdened.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1188 on: December 16, 2024, 07:10:01 PM »
Well some people say KDB is the key to Manchester City's game, and that's true because when they lost this player, Manchester City slipped a bit. But in a short time they were able to overcome it.

However, when Rodri was lost it was more pronounced, I don't mean to compare the two, because they both contributed. However, some people started to say that Rodri was the key to Manchester City's game.
Both player's are exceptional player's in Manchester city but let not compare because kdb has been the main engine room of Manchester city and I don't personally think that it's because of any of the players that they are currently struggling yes they players have there influence in the team but looking at the city situation critically I can say that they have been in their peak for a while and it's natural that they will experience this kind of situation so it will take a while before they will get back to their former glory, because even  if Rodri come back today Manchester city is going to still struggle
You are right, they were at their peak, especially when they won the Champions League for the first time, that was their peak. Well after that the decline was felt, and this season it is even more visible.

I am afraid this has something to do with the psychology of the players, I mean when they are at their peak, sometimes they do things they shouldn't do, like underestimating opponents and so on, and psychologically that can happen.
Pep really needs to get his players psychological state back to before as they seems to be confused and down casted psychologically speaking because they are losing self esteem and confidence as the day is going by just imagine Manchester City losing a match that they where already a goal ahead to Manchester United of all teams that are fighting for their survival in the Premier League and even in Europe

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1189 on: December 17, 2024, 07:44:09 AM »
Well some people say KDB is the key to Manchester City's game, and that's true because when they lost this player, Manchester City slipped a bit. But in a short time they were able to overcome it.

However, when Rodri was lost it was more pronounced, I don't mean to compare the two, because they both contributed. However, some people started to say that Rodri was the key to Manchester City's game.
Both player's are exceptional player's in Manchester city but let not compare because kdb has been the main engine room of Manchester city and I don't personally think that it's because of any of the players that they are currently struggling yes they players have there influence in the team but looking at the city situation critically I can say that they have been in their peak for a while and it's natural that they will experience this kind of situation so it will take a while before they will get back to their former glory, because even  if Rodri come back today Manchester city is going to still struggle
You are right, they were at their peak, especially when they won the Champions League for the first time, that was their peak. Well after that the decline was felt, and this season it is even more visible.

I am afraid this has something to do with the psychology of the players, I mean when they are at their peak, sometimes they do things they shouldn't do, like underestimating opponents and so on, and psychologically that can happen.
I don't think so, the problem is that most clubs have understood their game pattern and how to outsmart them on the field to take advantage of them. Pep needs to try a new game pattern and see if that will work for him. It's useless having all your players back and still losing. Imagine United won City today from one goal down.
Exactly. Most teams have to understand their game patterns. Pep Guardiola never knew a time like this would come when teams will study them, and win them in a match like a mediocre team. Their yesterday's lost match to Manchester United was the height of it, for Pep Guardiola to think of what other football tactics he would introduce Manchester City to because it is no longer the excuse that his key players are injured because they are all back except for Rodri

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1190 on: December 17, 2024, 08:17:34 AM »
Pep really needs to get his players psychological state back to before as they seems to be confused and down casted psychologically speaking because they are losing self esteem and confidence as the day is going by just imagine Manchester City losing a match that they where already a goal ahead to Manchester United of all teams that are fighting for their survival in the Premier League and even in Europe
I think Pep and the Man City players are both experiencing psychological pressure. Because everyone is definitely not used to bad situations like what happened this season. Because this team has been in its glory days for too long. So when this team is in a bad situation, we immediately see that the team's psychology is experiencing a decline. The crisis of confidence in this team must be immediately restored. If not, Man City could really fail to advance to the next stage.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1191 on: December 17, 2024, 12:59:17 PM »
I think Pep and the Man City players are both experiencing psychological pressure. Because everyone is definitely not used to bad situations like what happened this season. Because this team has been in its glory days for too long. So when this team is in a bad situation, we immediately see that the team's psychology is experiencing a decline. The crisis of confidence in this team must be immediately restored. If not, Man City could really fail to advance to the next stage.
The main thing to think about is not to be the best, but to be together with the team at a bad moment and to wish to continue together. We understand this each year is a new narrative and oftentimes coaching success is defined by how they respond to various challenges. Man City have a great deal of quality and experience, and that is always handy to have when coming through experiences such as the ones above. When everyone encourages one another and stays in touch and keeps on believing in what we are doing, this team should get back to the best. In my opinion this is a test that, when confronted with hard work and belief, can be the genesis of something larger.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1192 on: December 18, 2024, 08:44:07 AM »
I doubt Man city for this season. But I hope they can at least qualify for the next stage even though they have to go through the play-offs first. And actually this week Man City really faced a tough challenge. because they have to collect full points so they can stay in the play-off zone. But it will be a little difficult with their current condition considering that the team they will face is also a strong team, namely PSG.

Luckily, PSG also experienced a series of poor results in the UCL. So I will not favor anyone in this match. Because for me these two teams make me doubt.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1193 on: December 18, 2024, 12:59:11 PM »
I doubt Man city for this season. But I hope they can at least qualify for the next stage even though they have to go through the play-offs first. And actually this week Man City really faced a tough challenge. because they have to collect full points so they can stay in the play-off zone. But it will be a little difficult with their current condition considering that the team they will face is also a strong team, namely PSG.

Luckily, PSG also experienced a series of poor results in the UCL. So I will not favor anyone in this match. Because for me these two teams make me doubt.
I think city should focus more on getting back to their form than planning of qualifying for the next round in the champion's league because with the way their current form is and where they find them self it's clear that they can't go far in this year's campaign so they should forget about the champions league and focus more on home and how they can finish at a good position in the premier league so they can play in the champions league next season as they are in a very bad form currently and even if they make it to the playoffs the probability of them qualifying from the playoff will be hard

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1194 on: December 18, 2024, 01:49:37 PM »
I doubt Man city for this season. But I hope they can at least qualify for the next stage even though they have to go through the play-offs first. And actually this week Man City really faced a tough challenge. because they have to collect full points so they can stay in the play-off zone. But it will be a little difficult with their current condition considering that the team they will face is also a strong team, namely PSG.

Luckily, PSG also experienced a series of poor results in the UCL. So I will not favor anyone in this match. Because for me these two teams make me doubt.

I also have doubts, in the Premier League he has sunk to -9 points from the top
I don't think there are any particular problems in Manchester City so even worse, I really don't understand this absolutely negative trend
maybe the players are simply tired
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1195 on: December 18, 2024, 03:13:40 PM »

You are right, they were at their peak, especially when they won the Champions League for the first time, that was their peak. Well after that the decline was felt, and this season it is even more visible.

I am afraid this has something to do with the psychology of the players, I mean when they are at their peak, sometimes they do things they shouldn't do, like underestimating opponents and so on, and psychologically that can happen.
Your theory could be correct. And maybe it could have been like that at first. Or it could also be because this team is too used to good results, so when they experience bad results their self-confidence easily falls. Because they are not used to losing. So it is quite difficult to restore their self-confidence. This could happen not to the players but to the coach, namely Pep, who even looks quite burdened.
yes, that could be the first trigger and after that they have some more problems. Like you said about Pep for example, he could be under a lot of pressure, although I am not so sure because he is a very experienced coach.

But the opportunity is still there, they have to evaluate everything before it gets worse. It is never too late because the competition will continue every year.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1196 on: December 18, 2024, 08:27:35 PM »
I doubt Man city for this season. But I hope they can at least qualify for the next stage even though they have to go through the play-offs first. And actually this week Man City really faced a tough challenge. because they have to collect full points so they can stay in the play-off zone. But it will be a little difficult with their current condition considering that the team they will face is also a strong team, namely PSG.

Luckily, PSG also experienced a series of poor results in the UCL. So I will not favor anyone in this match. Because for me these two teams make me doubt.

I also have doubts, in the Premier League he has sunk to -9 points from the top
I don't think there are any particular problems in Manchester City so even worse, I really don't understand this absolutely negative trend
maybe the players are simply tired
I think that their problem is that clubs have known how to play City and they're now vulnerable to their opponents because their opponents know their weak point. If not, I don't see any reason why the problem isn't solved yet despite that most of the players are back from injury.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1197 on: December 18, 2024, 09:53:48 PM »
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I think Pep and the Man City players are both experiencing psychological pressure. Because everyone is definitely not used to bad situations like what happened this season. Because this team has been in its glory days for too long. So when this team is in a bad situation, we immediately see that the team's psychology is experiencing a decline. The crisis of confidence in this team must be immediately restored. If not, Man City could really fail to advance to the next stage.
It's not that they are not used to bad situations because we've also seen them struggle in the past seasons but still recovered towards the end and won the title. I can agree that winning for so long probably made some of the long time players like Halaand become lazy and unmotivated. I've seen a video analysis on how they lost to Man United in the Premier League and it highlighted how poor he was.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1198 on: December 19, 2024, 12:33:23 PM »
at the moment I see a slightly difficult situation for all the big teams in Europe
Manchester City went backwards
Real Madrid has several problems, including Mbappe's injury
Even Inter, Milan and Juventus in Italy are not doing well at all

it becomes difficult to understand who could win 
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1199 on: December 19, 2024, 02:06:47 PM »
at the moment I see a slightly difficult situation for all the big teams in Europe
Manchester City went backwards
Real Madrid has several problems, including Mbappe's injury
Even Inter, Milan and Juventus in Italy are not doing well at all

it becomes difficult to understand who could win
I think with the current position of teams in the champions league this season it's still too far for us to be talking about who is favorite and who is going to win because with the current form that we are seeing almost all big teams are struggling and is in a very dicey situation, but let say after the playoffs we can really talk about who is likely to win based on the performance of the teams that played in the play off we still have a long way to go and we are not even up to the half of the footballing season

 

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