[Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread

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at the moment I see a slightly difficult situation for all the big teams in Europe
Manchester City went backwards
Real Madrid has several problems, including Mbappe's injury
Even Inter, Milan and Juventus in Italy are not doing well at all

it becomes difficult to understand who could win

Yes you are right, some big teams that are favored have internal problems that affect their performance. I rarely see this happening at the same time, but this season I see it.

Maybe this is a bad season for some teams that have problems at the same time. Even though in terms of preparation at the beginning of the season we saw that they had made good preparations, but this is football, sometimes it cannot be predicted.

[Uruhara]

at the moment I see a slightly difficult situation for all the big teams in Europe
Manchester City went backwards
Real Madrid has several problems, including Mbappe's injury
Even Inter, Milan and Juventus in Italy are not doing well at all

it becomes difficult to understand who could win

The new system or new format also makes the results more unpredictable this season. And what was most unexpected was seeing some of the strongest clubs struggling to qualify for the play-offs. This seems like a joke but this is what is happening. Man City and PSG will even fight in the next match and it looks like one of them could fail to qualify for the Play-offs if they lose. Meanwhile, we know that these two teams are one of the strongest here. And yes, Real Madrid, which should be the strongest team here, can only occupy the play-off zone and have to fight through the play-off round to get to the next stage. What an unexpected season. And I didn't even know there would be any surprises, especially in the next stage. The worst thing is if these teams fail in the play-off round. 

[Agbe]

at the moment I see a slightly difficult situation for all the big teams in Europe
Manchester City went backwards
Real Madrid has several problems, including Mbappe's injury
Even Inter, Milan and Juventus in Italy are not doing well at all

it becomes difficult to understand who could win

The new system or new format also makes the results more unpredictable this season. And what was most unexpected was seeing some of the strongest clubs struggling to qualify for the play-offs. This seems like a joke but this is what is happening. Man City and PSG will even fight in the next match and it looks like one of them could fail to qualify for the Play-offs if they lose. Meanwhile, we know that these two teams are one of the strongest here. And yes, Real Madrid, which should be the strongest team here, can only occupy the play-off zone and have to fight through the play-off round to get to the next stage. What an unexpected season. And I didn't even know there would be any surprises, especially in the next stage. The worst thing is if these teams fail in the play-off round. 

The new format has really exposed the the flaws of a lot of Big teams as they are currently struggling to qualify for the next rounds the the previous format you will see one big team in a group of four so they will easily qualify for the next round easily but this season the table has turned for a lot of Big teams because you will have to play a lot of teams to get off the play off zone for you a team to automatically qualify for the next rounds I for see either Manchester City or PSG leaving the competition early this year

[Gurujebs]

The new format has really exposed the the flaws of a lot of Big teams as they are currently struggling to qualify for the next rounds the the previous format you will see one big team in a group of four so they will easily qualify for the next round easily but this season the table has turned for a lot of Big teams because you will have to play a lot of teams to get off the play off zone for you a team to automatically qualify for the next rounds I for see either Manchester City or PSG leaving the competition early this year

The new format made us realize that not everyone that pass the group stage is actually that strong, they just happen to be favour because the teams in that group are not as strong as many expected but now that all teams has to battle together, they can no longer hide and take advantage of minor clubs anymore, that's why even the previous tops teams are now struggling.

Another thing you also need to consider is the fact that there is a play off place big enough for a second chance for many teams. Unlike when third place in the group are the ones that used to qualify.

[ajiz138]

Once again Paris Saint Germain's performance in the Champions League this season is not good, they are now in an unfavorable position and even they have to get out of the top 24. This is clearly not good for them.

On the other hand, teams from the same league can actually perform well this season, LOSC and Brest for example. Even the two teams I mentioned are in a safer place in the top 8. This is clearly a very reverse difference when looking at them in the Domestic League.

[armanda90]

Once again Paris Saint Germain's performance in the Champions League this season is not good, they are now in an unfavorable position and even they have to get out of the top 24. This is clearly not good for them.

On the other hand, teams from the same league can actually perform well this season, LOSC and Brest for example. Even the two teams I mentioned are in a safer place in the top 8. This is clearly a very reverse difference when looking at them in the Domestic League.

In my opining, PSG opportunity qualify to knock out round directly have been over after the achievement until games week 6 and have two difficult matches left. but not close opportunity get one spot for playoff round depend the next match result against Manchester City, if can beat City have bigger opportunity for playoff round spot but the last match opponent team Stuttgart have the same position with PSG reach to knock out round by finish on playoff round spot standings.
In this season, PSG performance in Champion League not quit well yet just winning 2 of 6 matches is not good result for PSG if want secure to 16 of round.

[ajiz138]

Once again Paris Saint Germain's performance in the Champions League this season is not good, they are now in an unfavorable position and even they have to get out of the top 24. This is clearly not good for them.

On the other hand, teams from the same league can actually perform well this season, LOSC and Brest for example. Even the two teams I mentioned are in a safer place in the top 8. This is clearly a very reverse difference when looking at them in the Domestic League.

In my opining, PSG opportunity qualify to knock out round directly have been over after the achievement until games week 6 and have two difficult matches left. but not close opportunity get one spot for playoff round depend the next match result against Manchester City, if can beat City have bigger opportunity for playoff round spot but the last match opponent team Stuttgart have the same position with PSG reach to knock out round by finish on playoff round spot standings.
In this season, PSG performance in Champion League not quit well yet just winning 2 of 6 matches is not good result for PSG if want secure to 16 of round.

Yes, they still have a chance to at least be in the play-off round even though they have to fight tooth and nail to get a win in the last 2 matches. But I also won't be surprised when in the end they have to fail to win and bury their hopes of being in the last 16 and once again they have to fail to compete in the Champions League.
They have to fix and evaluate everything, because in the Champions League they are not a team that can be said to be special.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Yes, they still have a chance to at least be in the play-off round even though they have to fight tooth and nail to get a win in the last 2 matches. But I also won't be surprised when in the end they have to fail to win and bury their hopes of being in the last 16 and once again they have to fail to compete in the Champions League.
They have to fix and evaluate everything, because in the Champions League they are not a team that can be said to be special.

I can only say one thing, with respect to PSG, they have to play as if it were a final, or there is another way, if they do not play that way things will hardly go well for them, if PSG draw it is the same as losing, they have to win, the tremendous pressure that Luis Enrique must be feeling at this moment is not normal, it is very strong, that is why I think he has to do something urgent, and the most urgent thing is to win these games that they have left, because there is no other way, mathematically they have a chance but it is very difficult to achieve it although it is not impossible.

[Uruhara]

The new system or new format also makes the results more unpredictable this season. And what was most unexpected was seeing some of the strongest clubs struggling to qualify for the play-offs. This seems like a joke but this is what is happening. Man City and PSG will even fight in the next match and it looks like one of them could fail to qualify for the Play-offs if they lose. Meanwhile, we know that these two teams are one of the strongest here. And yes, Real Madrid, which should be the strongest team here, can only occupy the play-off zone and have to fight through the play-off round to get to the next stage. What an unexpected season. And I didn't even know there would be any surprises, especially in the next stage. The worst thing is if these teams fail in the play-off round. 

The new format has really exposed the the flaws of a lot of Big teams as they are currently struggling to qualify for the next rounds the the previous format you will see one big team in a group of four so they will easily qualify for the next round easily but this season the table has turned for a lot of Big teams because you will have to play a lot of teams to get off the play off zone for you a team to automatically qualify for the next rounds I for see either Manchester City or PSG leaving the competition early this year

And actually this season I think it's quite surprising. Because looking at the current UCL standings is really hard to believe. Because most of the strong teams are struggling in the play-off zone, even PSG is outside the Play-off zone. Real Madrid, Man City, Juventus AC Milan, Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid and Dortmund. All of them are currently in the play-off zone. And the new format seems to have succeeded in bringing a surprise to everyone.

[ajiz138]

Yes, they still have a chance to at least be in the play-off round even though they have to fight tooth and nail to get a win in the last 2 matches. But I also won't be surprised when in the end they have to fail to win and bury their hopes of being in the last 16 and once again they have to fail to compete in the Champions League.
They have to fix and evaluate everything, because in the Champions League they are not a team that can be said to be special.

I can only say one thing, with respect to PSG, they have to play as if it were a final, or there is another way, if they do not play that way things will hardly go well for them, if PSG draw it is the same as losing, they have to win, the tremendous pressure that Luis Enrique must be feeling at this moment is not normal, it is very strong, that is why I think he has to do something urgent, and the most urgent thing is to win these games that they have left, because there is no other way, mathematically they have a chance but it is very difficult to achieve it although it is not impossible.

I agree with you, sometimes a draw is like a defeat and that applies to Paris Saint Germain right now. There is no other choice for them than to win.

I also sometimes wonder at them, why they always fail in the Champions League, although on some occasions I can also find reasons why they always have to fail. What is even more unfortunate is when they cannot maximize their financially healthy condition.

[joniboini]

I also sometimes wonder at them, why they always fail in the Champions League, although on some occasions I can also find reasons why they always have to fail. What is even more unfortunate is when they cannot maximize their financially healthy condition.

Yeah, I saw at least 5 videos talking about PSG failures a few months ago. I think people are just throwing darts because they don't know the inside story. Some people argue that their squad building is terrible, individual players can't work together due to their ego (especially when they have Neymar, Mbappe, etc), the coach can't control the dressing room because the players don't trust him, etc. I guess all of them can be true, but you can also argue that they got unlucky at times. That's just how football is. Somehow result is the deciding factor even though you can't really control the scoreline, especially in the Champions League. CMIIW.

[ajiz138]

I also sometimes wonder at them, why they always fail in the Champions League, although on some occasions I can also find reasons why they always have to fail. What is even more unfortunate is when they cannot maximize their financially healthy condition.

Yeah, I saw at least 5 videos talking about PSG failures a few months ago. I think people are just throwing darts because they don't know the inside story. Some people argue that their squad building is terrible, individual players can't work together due to their ego (especially when they have Neymar, Mbappe, etc), the coach can't control the dressing room because the players don't trust him, etc. I guess all of them can be true, but you can also argue that they got unlucky at times. That's just how football is. Somehow result is the deciding factor even though you can't really control the scoreline, especially in the Champions League. CMIIW.

Yes what you said could be the reason why they keep failing in the Champions League, including luck. Because like it or not sometimes luck works in football.

Although it might be considered a reason that will come for other reasons, but we also can't eliminate it from one of the factors. Looking back when they had the 3 best players in the attack line, logically it was a very big opportunity for them, but in football logic doesn't always work.

[Agbe]

at the moment I see a slightly difficult situation for all the big teams in Europe
Manchester City went backwards
Real Madrid has several problems, including Mbappe's injury
Even Inter, Milan and Juventus in Italy are not doing well at all

it becomes difficult to understand who could win

I think the current struggling form of most big teams in Europe is due to improved performance from the traditional small teams, these teams have improved and strengthen their squad and has become more ambitious in the various leagues and the big teams didn't see it coming that is why they are struggling to find their form in their respective leagues

[salad daging]

And actually this season I think it's quite surprising. Because looking at the current UCL standings is really hard to believe. Because most of the strong teams are struggling in the play-off zone, even PSG is outside the Play-off zone. Real Madrid, Man City, Juventus AC Milan, Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid and Dortmund. All of them are currently in the play-off zone. And the new format seems to have succeeded in bringing a surprise to everyone.

There may be more big teams in the playoffs now because of the difficulty of competing in the UCL with the new format.
Maybe only Liverpool and a few other teams will qualify while other teams will try hard to qualify in the playoffs.
Although 2 matches are left now and which teams will survive the playoffs.

[Uruhara]

And actually this season I think it's quite surprising. Because looking at the current UCL standings is really hard to believe. Because most of the strong teams are struggling in the play-off zone, even PSG is outside the Play-off zone. Real Madrid, Man City, Juventus AC Milan, Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid and Dortmund. All of them are currently in the play-off zone. And the new format seems to have succeeded in bringing a surprise to everyone.

There may be more big teams in the playoffs now because of the difficulty of competing in the UCL with the new format.
Maybe only Liverpool and a few other teams will qualify while other teams will try hard to qualify in the playoffs.
Although 2 matches are left now and which teams will survive the playoffs.

Well that's right. But if you look again at this time, the difference in points between 3rd place and the ranking of the teams in the playoff zone is actually really thin. So it's possible that the results of 1 match will quickly change the ranking. Because the difference between 3rd place and 12th place is only 1 point. with rank 14 also only 2 points. Which means one match result can make a drastic change between rankings 3 to 14. The last two matches will be really hot, I think.