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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1215 on: December 29, 2024, 06:15:45 PM »
Well that's right. But if you look again at this time, the difference in points between 3rd place and the ranking of the teams in the playoff zone is actually really thin. So it's possible that the results of 1 match will quickly change the ranking. Because the difference between 3rd place and 12th place is only 1 point. with rank 14 also only 2 points. Which means one match result can make a drastic change between rankings 3 to 14. The last two matches will be really hot, I think.
clearly, the result of 1 match will be able to change the standings of several teams, it can be seen when the distance between their points is not far from each other. This makes the competition more intense because they have to ensure victory to ensure their position remains safe and can even be in a better position.

now there are only 2 matches left, it will be a determinant for several teams, who will qualify automatically and who will be thrown into the play-off round.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1215 on: December 29, 2024, 06:15:45 PM »

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1216 on: December 29, 2024, 06:45:55 PM »
Well that's right. But if you look again at this time, the difference in points between 3rd place and the ranking of the teams in the playoff zone is actually really thin. So it's possible that the results of 1 match will quickly change the ranking. Because the difference between 3rd place and 12th place is only 1 point. with rank 14 also only 2 points. Which means one match result can make a drastic change between rankings 3 to 14. The last two matches will be really hot, I think.
The game week 7 result matches we can easily for predictable about which one teams have bigger opportunity will set playoff round standings or reach the top eight position. Latest standings position only Liverpool and Barcelona have secure their spot as top eight standings teams finish but the other teams have thin points difference and difficult for predicting will get slot for qualifying to knock out round.
Looking left two opponent team, I think Inter Milan favorable team for directly qualifying to knock out round because have easily opponent teams against Sparta Praha and Monaco.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1217 on: December 29, 2024, 08:27:52 PM »
And actually this season I think it's quite surprising. Because looking at the current UCL standings is really hard to believe. Because most of the strong teams are struggling in the play-off zone, even PSG is outside the Play-off zone. Real Madrid, Man City, Juventus AC Milan, Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid and Dortmund. All of them are currently in the play-off zone. And the new format seems to have succeeded in bringing a surprise to everyone.
There may be more big teams in the playoffs now because of the difficulty of competing in the UCL with the new format.
Maybe only Liverpool and a few other teams will qualify while other teams will try hard to qualify in the playoffs.
Although 2 matches are left now and which teams will survive the playoffs.
Well that's right. But if you look again at this time, the difference in points between 3rd place and the ranking of the teams in the playoff zone is actually really thin. So it's possible that the results of 1 match will quickly change the ranking. Because the difference between 3rd place and 12th place is only 1 point. with rank 14 also only 2 points. Which means one match result can make a drastic change between rankings 3 to 14. The last two matches will be really hot, I think.

16 points from a possible 24 would almost certainly be enough to finish in the top eight, guaranteeing a last-16 spot in the new year, five wins and a draw from eight matches, or other combinations.
So the teams will target at least three wins from eight to give them the best chance of reaching the Champions League knockout rounds.
And I agree, The last two matches will be hot

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1218 on: December 29, 2024, 09:54:32 PM »
I agree with you, sometimes a draw is like a defeat and that applies to Paris Saint Germain right now. There is no other choice for them than to win.

I also sometimes wonder at them, why they always fail in the Champions League, although on some occasions I can also find reasons why they always have to fail. What is even more unfortunate is when they cannot maximize their financially healthy condition.

I think about this is what many of us call "lack of luck" and that is something that is very valid, when they were with Messi and Neymar together with Mbappé they did not win any UCL, so if these monsters did nothing and that being almost the best trident in the world, then nothing can be done, for me it was lack of luck, for the others I don't know, they played badly, they did not do badly, in view of this this is what I conclude, and for now they still Continue counting on that same luck, I see them very far from being able to get a UCL.
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1219 on: December 31, 2024, 07:42:43 PM »
Plenty of time till the next round, scheduled for 21st/22nd January, but we only have two rounds to go in the first-ever league stage.
I don't expect there to be any major changes in the top 8 (which will progress to the next round without play-offs). Some ay Brest, currently ranked 7th, doesn't belong there and expect them to drop down, but I think they can handle Shakhtar Donetsk in the next round, and even if they lose to Real in the final round, they should still have enough points to go through.
Similar thing with Aston Villa. Their Premier League performance was far from impressive recently, but the remaining UCL games are not the hardest ones (Monaco away and Celtic at home) so they'll probably earn at least 3-4 points which should be enough to stay in the top 8.

LOSC Lille might struggle to hold on to their current 8th place, as they're playing their next game against Liverpool, who are unstoppable lately, but, as the British team is already guaranteed to go through to the next round, they might go easier on the French.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1220 on: December 31, 2024, 07:53:24 PM »
I think about this is what many of us call "lack of luck" and that is something that is very valid, when they were with Messi and Neymar together with Mbappé they did not win any UCL, so if these monsters did nothing and that being almost the best trident in the world, then nothing can be done, for me it was lack of luck, for the others I don't know, they played badly, they did not do badly, in view of this this is what I conclude, and for now they still Continue counting on that same luck, I see them very far from being able to get a UCL.

Some combinations aren't necessarily in my opinion. PSG has money to give obviously otherwise I don't see any reason why they have to combine Messi and Mbape with Neymar, it was a bad combination because we Messi is a light since he started his football career and Mbape been lucky to win the World cup at young age has alot of hype around him, the comparism to Messi and disrespect was too much and I'm glad he left after 2 years.

It's the same reason Real Madrid are having difficult time now, that club doesn't need Mbape but they forcedly take him as free transfer just to make it looks like they are not desperate but they are, that's why the team is also struggling now, when you have too much of I too know players, you will have under performance.
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1221 on: December 31, 2024, 07:57:48 PM »
I agree with you, sometimes a draw is like a defeat and that applies to Paris Saint Germain right now. There is no other choice for them than to win.

I also sometimes wonder at them, why they always fail in the Champions League, although on some occasions I can also find reasons why they always have to fail. What is even more unfortunate is when they cannot maximize their financially healthy condition.

I think about this is what many of us call "lack of luck" and that is something that is very valid, when they were with Messi and Neymar together with Mbappé they did not win any UCL, so if these monsters did nothing and that being almost the best trident in the world, then nothing can be done, for me it was lack of luck, for the others I don't know, they played badly, they did not do badly, in view of this this is what I conclude, and for now they still Continue counting on that same luck, I see them very far from being able to get a UCL.
I don't think it's lack of luck, because during the time of Mbappe, Messi and Neymar in the club, they didn't go far in UCL. It's lack of commitment to take UCL serious so that they can build the team to the standards of UCL strong clubs. UCL is bigger than PSG, so they should improve their performance if they want to win UCL.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1222 on: December 31, 2024, 08:26:14 PM »
I agree with you, sometimes a draw is like a defeat and that applies to Paris Saint Germain right now. There is no other choice for them than to win.

I also sometimes wonder at them, why they always fail in the Champions League, although on some occasions I can also find reasons why they always have to fail. What is even more unfortunate is when they cannot maximize their financially healthy condition.

I think about this is what many of us call "lack of luck" and that is something that is very valid, when they were with Messi and Neymar together with Mbappé they did not win any UCL, so if these monsters did nothing and that being almost the best trident in the world, then nothing can be done, for me it was lack of luck, for the others I don't know, they played badly, they did not do badly, in view of this this is what I conclude, and for now they still Continue counting on that same luck, I see them very far from being able to get a UCL.
I don't think it's lack of luck, because during the time of Mbappe, Messi and Neymar in the club, they didn't go far in UCL. It's lack of commitment to take UCL serious so that they can build the team to the standards of UCL strong clubs. UCL is bigger than PSG, so they should improve their performance if they want to win UCL.
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1223 on: January 01, 2025, 05:48:28 PM »
And I agree, The last two matches will be hot

For me the most crucial games will be for Madrid and PSG, who are on the tightrope, well PSG even more so Madrid did get some fresh air when they won, but they can't compete any more. They have to win everything that comes their way if they want to go through, because they don't have a direct pass and a team like Madrid shouldn't be left out, that's something that many expect, so in view of this these games won't be normal, they will be finals for them, or well at least that's how I see them. I think Ancestilli is clear about that, as is Luis Enrique with PSG.
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1224 on: January 01, 2025, 06:04:15 PM »
Well that's right. But if you look again at this time, the difference in points between 3rd place and the ranking of the teams in the playoff zone is actually really thin. So it's possible that the results of 1 match will quickly change the ranking. Because the difference between 3rd place and 12th place is only 1 point. with rank 14 also only 2 points. Which means one match result can make a drastic change between rankings 3 to 14. The last two matches will be really hot, I think.
clearly, the result of 1 match will be able to change the standings of several teams, it can be seen when the distance between their points is not far from each other. This makes the competition more intense because they have to ensure victory to ensure their position remains safe and can even be in a better position.

now there are only 2 matches left, it will be a determinant for several teams, who will qualify automatically and who will be thrown into the play-off round.
Yes, and the remaining two matches will feel like a final match for some teams who are struggling to qualify for the Play-off round like PSG. And in the middle ranks everyone will fight to get up to 8th place so they can qualify without having to go through the play-off round. I don't know how but I'm starting to like the new format of UCL now. Because the atmosphere becomes more exciting and more unpredictable.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1225 on: January 02, 2025, 12:38:24 AM »
Some combinations aren't necessarily in my opinion. PSG has money to give obviously otherwise I don't see any reason why they have to combine Messi and Mbape with Neymar, it was a bad combination because we Messi is a light since he started his football career and Mbape been lucky to win the World cup at young age has alot of hype around him, the comparism to Messi and disrespect was too much and I'm glad he left after 2 years.

It's the same reason Real Madrid are having difficult time now, that club doesn't need Mbape but they forcedly take him as free transfer just to make it looks like they are not desperate but they are, that's why the team is also struggling now, when you have too much of I too know players, you will have under performance.
Well that's an excellent point of view and what you say is valid because Madrid's performance isn't very good, I don't know if you remember when Madrid had Zidane, Ronaldo, Beckham and others who were very good, Barcelona beat them because they only had one star and it was Dinho, not even Messi, because Messi was just starting, Messi only started to shine when Dinho left, that's when Messi began to be seen and to become what he is, but why? Because Barcelona played for him, on the other hand MADRID Ancelotti has Mbappé as his savior and that's something I don't agree with , I really hope they move forward.
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1226 on: January 02, 2025, 01:54:34 PM »
clearly, the result of 1 match will be able to change the standings of several teams, it can be seen when the distance between their points is not far from each other. This makes the competition more intense because they have to ensure victory to ensure their position remains safe and can even be in a better position.

now there are only 2 matches left, it will be a determinant for several teams, who will qualify automatically and who will be thrown into the play-off round.
Yes, and the remaining two matches will feel like a final match for some teams who are struggling to qualify for the Play-off round like PSG. And in the middle ranks everyone will fight to get up to 8th place so they can qualify without having to go through the play-off round. I don't know how but I'm starting to like the new format of UCL now. Because the atmosphere becomes more exciting and more unpredictable.
Yes, you could say that, it's like a final match where some teams can't lose if they want to be in the next round, or at least they can qualify automatically.

In this new format, the Champions League forces teams to compete with all the other teams in the early rounds. This is different from the previous format where in the old format, there were only 4 teams competing to be in the last 16.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1227 on: January 02, 2025, 02:50:31 PM »
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In this new format, the Champions League forces teams to compete with all the other teams in the early rounds. This is different from the previous format where in the old format, there were only 4 teams competing to be in the last 16.
Yeah, this is good for advertisers and maybe to most spectators. Personally, I prefer the old format because I find it more competitive. Less games also means they cannot slack around. The current set up allows top teams to take it easy from the early rounds because there are many games to take points.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1228 on: January 02, 2025, 03:48:28 PM »
Yes, you could say that, it's like a final match where some teams can't lose if they want to be in the next round, or at least they can qualify automatically.

In this new format, the Champions League forces teams to compete with all the other teams in the early rounds. This is different from the previous format where in the old format, there were only 4 teams competing to be in the last 16.
New format of UEFA Champion League have to play until 8 games and each teams will face difference opponent teams since first games weeks until the last games weeks. Its one unique side of new Champion League format although have many complaint before every team have to play until 8 matches than old format just playing 6 matches only.
I think new format looks fair and every teams have the same opportunity with face any top teams since first until the last games week, teams have collected many points get opportunity for directly qualify to knock out round and bad result for top teams after games week 6 many teams drop to bottom place standing awhile.


 

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