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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1755 on: April 09, 2025, 11:52:26 PM »
Dormund really has no chance at all to be able to turn things around and even no chance to score any goal. How great and incredible Barcelona under Hansi Flick.
Barcelona should be able to make it to the finals of the Champions League, but they need to be careful not to underestimate whoever wins the game between Bayern Munich and Inter Milan because oftentimes in this competition we've seen that there's also a measure of luck required to be able to win it, not just team performance alone.

Maybe it would be Barcelona versus Arsenal in the final of this Champions League competition.
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1756 on: April 10, 2025, 12:57:55 AM »
Two surprises yesterday, no surprises today.
Dortmund got absolutely dismantled by Barcelona and the rematch is only a formality. Lewandowski scored two and is now at 99 goals for Barcelona. I think it's very likely that he will make it to triple digits in the rematch with his former club, unless he does that sooner in the league game against Leganes on Saturday.

Aston Villa started really well and took a 1-0 lead but things went south from there. PSG ran them over and proved to be a superior team.

Anything is possible, but, realistically, we already know 3 semi-finalists and the only unknown is Bayern/Inter.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1757 on: April 10, 2025, 01:24:24 AM »
Two surprises yesterday, no surprises today.
Dortmund got absolutely dismantled by Barcelona and the rematch is only a formality. Lewandowski scored two and is now at 99 goals for Barcelona. I think it's very likely that he will make it to triple digits in the rematch with his former club, unless he does that sooner in the league game against Leganes on Saturday.
Raphinha with the 1 goal and 2 assists... one of the best players in the world right now, playing very well. Sadly he can't do anything on the Brazilian national team along with Rodrygo and Vini Jr (how the hell do we got all those players and we suck so badly? :P)
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1758 on: April 10, 2025, 12:08:47 PM »
PSG, which was once doubted, has now turned into a very favorite team. Maybe in the initial phase we saw the bad track shown by PSG who almost didn't even qualify for the next stage. But after we saw PSG beat Liverpool we started to realize the true strength of PSG. And Liverpool even experienced quite a painful defeat at that time. Because PSG always dominates the match very well. And then yesterday PSG also did not disappoint because they also managed to beat Aston Villa. And that's in line with what I expect from PSG.

Apart from that, Barcelona also far exceeded what I expected from them. They broke into Dortmund's goal in an elegant way. As if Dortmund didn't have a strong defense. even though we all know Dortmund is a team whose defense is quite strong. But in front of Barcelona it seems that doesn't apply.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1759 on: April 10, 2025, 02:01:29 PM »
Two surprises yesterday, no surprises today.
Dortmund got absolutely dismantled by Barcelona and the rematch is only a formality. Lewandowski scored two and is now at 99 goals for Barcelona. I think it's very likely that he will make it to triple digits in the rematch with his former club, unless he does that sooner in the league game against Leganes on Saturday.
Raphinha with the 1 goal and 2 assists... one of the best players in the world right now, playing very well. Sadly he can't do anything on the Brazilian national team along with Rodrygo and Vini Jr (how the hell do we got all those players and we suck so badly? :P)
Not surprised with Borussia Dortmund's defeat in this match, because this season they have problems and their opponents are in good form.

Borussia Dortmund could not do anything in this match, they could only see Barcelona dominate and they created many goals. Their hopes are very slim in the second leg, I don't think they can turn things around.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1760 on: April 10, 2025, 02:01:58 PM »
(how the hell do we got all those players and we suck so badly? :P)

I think that’s where Team’s Chemistry comes into play, it shows that some times the best national teams are often with few players with extremely great individual attributes, instead almost everyone on the team complements each other to perform better collectively as a team.
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1761 on: April 10, 2025, 05:00:17 PM »
Raphinha with the 1 goal and 2 assists... one of the best players in the world right now, playing very well. Sadly he can't do anything on the Brazilian national team along with Rodrygo and Vini Jr (how the hell do we got all those players and we suck so badly? :P)

Same question I keep asking myself about our national team ; we literally have some of the best players in Europe and Africa and yet we are still shit and about to lose our on another world cup qualifications. We've had more than 4 managers in the past 5 years and none could use all the world class in the team to good use.

Raphinha's redemption this season needs to be studied; this is someone who fans repeatedly asked to leave the club after last season, and the club was at one point willing to listen to offers--from a flop to literally the best player on the team.
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1761 on: April 10, 2025, 05:00:17 PM »


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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1762 on: April 10, 2025, 05:52:31 PM »
Raphinha with the 1 goal and 2 assists... one of the best players in the world right now, playing very well. Sadly he can't do anything on the Brazilian national team along with Rodrygo and Vini Jr (how the hell do we got all those players and we suck so badly? :P)

Same question I keep asking myself about our national team ; we literally have some of the best players in Europe and Africa and yet we are still shit and about to lose our on another world cup qualifications. We've had more than 4 managers in the past 5 years and none could use all the world class in the team to good use.

Raphinha's redemption this season needs to be studied; this is someone who fans repeatedly asked to leave the club after last season, and the club was at one point willing to listen to offers--from a flop to literally the best player on the team.
What is the problem with this? I asked myself about the chaos of Brazil with the best players in Europe but they still struggled in the world cup.
Is the coach bad at tactics? Or is it that there are too many great players and they are selfish?

Raphinha did become a great player after a small club failed to shine.... he has found his true club, but that's thanks to Hans flick.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1763 on: April 10, 2025, 06:25:06 PM »
Aston Villa started really well and took a 1-0 lead but things went south from there. PSG ran them over and proved to be a superior team.

Anything is possible, but, realistically, we already know 3 semi-finalists and the only unknown is Bayern/Inter.

I don't think anything untoward would happen in 3 of the 4 Quarter final games in the 2nd leg, even if some of the winners of the 1st leg should lose the 2nd leg matches, I think there is enough goal that would cover for any mishap that we could eventually witness. However, feel free to ignore my sentiment if we end up seeing some once in century comeback games.
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1764 on: April 10, 2025, 06:38:33 PM »
What is the problem with this? I asked myself about the chaos of Brazil with the best players in Europe but they still struggled in the world cup.
Is the coach bad at tactics? Or is it that there are too many great players and they are selfish?

Raphinha did become a great player after a small club failed to shine.... he has found his true club, but that's thanks to Hans flick.

When a team has too many individual players who care much about being in the spotlight, it ruin the team chemistry and becomes too difficult to manage.  It always difficult to have all the best players in a team - take a look at PSG; they're literally doing better than when they had Neymar, Messi and Mbappe on the team.

I don't think anything untoward would happen in 3 of the 4 Quarter final games in the 2nd leg, even if some of the winners of the 1st leg should lose the 2nd leg matches, I think there is enough goal that would cover for any mishap that we could eventually witness. However, feel free to ignore my sentiment if we end up seeing some once in century comeback games.

The only game we could see a bit of surprise comeback is Inter-Bayern and maybe a close game in Aston -PSG game too.  Arsenal and Barcelona already killed it.
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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1765 on: April 10, 2025, 06:55:08 PM »
What is the problem with this? I asked myself about the chaos of Brazil with the best players in Europe but they still struggled in the world cup.
Is the coach bad at tactics? Or is it that there are too many great players and they are selfish?

Raphinha did become a great player after a small club failed to shine.... he has found his true club, but that's thanks to Hans flick.

When a team has too many individual players who care much about being in the spotlight, it ruin the team chemistry and becomes too difficult to manage.  It always difficult to have all the best players in a team - take a look at PSG; they're literally doing better than when they had Neymar, Messi and Mbappe on the team.
You are right now PSG is playing much better than there is Messi, Neymar and Mbappe not getting better but even worse because there are too many centers of attention this may be a mess because it is difficult to manage by the coach.
Moreover, the class of Messi, who certainly had the top priority when he was at PSG.
I see now PSG is more promising in the Champion League now than the season before.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1766 on: April 10, 2025, 07:14:47 PM »
Not surprised with Borussia Dortmund's defeat in this match, because this season they have problems and their opponents are in good form.

Borussia Dortmund could not do anything in this match, they could only see Barcelona dominate and they created many goals. Their hopes are very slim in the second leg, I don't think they can turn things around.
Dortmund is already 4 goals behind. And with an aggregate of 4 goals I think it is really almost impossible to improve in the second leg. because that means Dortmund must score at least 5 goals and with the condition that they cannot concede. And that is truly a hope that is difficult to achieve. Moreover, Barcelona, ​​which is very productive in scoring goals, will probably also score again in the second leg. So I think it is almost certain that Barcelona will progress to the next stage.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1767 on: April 10, 2025, 08:09:38 PM »
Real Madrid makes me mad, they play shit football...but Inter makes me happy.
Inter played well away from home, showing strength and courage, and their performance was solid.
At the same competition 15 years later, the pleasure is still the same, maybe even more than last night, but this is just the first leg.
Inter will need to maintain the same level of intensity in the second leg, and I am confident in their ability to do so.

I think it's easier to say Real Madrid played in a shitty way but to be fair it was because Arsenal were just superior all round, Real Madrid have been playing this same way or even worse and getting away with it. Arsenal played with huge confidence and called Madrid's bluff, it easy to get carried away by how awful we think Real Madrid played, however, the honest reality is just that Arsenal were just rather the brilliant team in that game.

Well, this is all just a personal viewpoint :)
Leg 1 Arsenal won, and it's a masterpiece by Rice, but don't fade Madrid yet
History shows that big teams like Madrid have comeback DNA. They have turned things around in crucial moments.
And Los Blancos have scored four goals in a game eight times at the Bernabeu this season. With a total of 67 goals in 26 home games, that shows incredible offensive power.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1768 on: April 10, 2025, 10:57:55 PM »
Updated outright odds for the Champions League 2025 winner:



No surprise with Barcelona being the favourite, PSG is now the close second. If I had to bet, I'd probably go with either Inter or Bayern. Not because I see them as favourites, but because of the decent value of the odds. Both teams are not the best in the bunch, but they don't stand out too much and, with a bit of luck, could make it all the way.
Some could say that betting $1 on Dortmund just for the laugh could be worth it, but, in my opinion, that would be a wasted $1. They have zero chance of advancing to the semi-final.

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Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1769 on: April 10, 2025, 11:21:22 PM »
Real Madrid makes me mad, they play shit football...but Inter makes me happy.
Inter played well away from home, showing strength and courage, and their performance was solid.
At the same competition 15 years later, the pleasure is still the same, maybe even more than last night, but this is just the first leg.
Inter will need to maintain the same level of intensity in the second leg, and I am confident in their ability to do so.

I think it's easier to say Real Madrid played in a shitty way but to be fair it was because Arsenal were just superior all round, Real Madrid have been playing this same way or even worse and getting away with it. Arsenal played with huge confidence and called Madrid's bluff, it easy to get carried away by how awful we think Real Madrid played, however, the honest reality is just that Arsenal were just rather the brilliant team in that game.

Well, this is all just a personal viewpoint :)
Leg 1 Arsenal won, and it's a masterpiece by Rice, but don't fade Madrid yet
History shows that big teams like Madrid have comeback DNA. They have turned things around in crucial moments.
And Los Blancos have scored four goals in a game eight times at the Bernabeu this season. With a total of 67 goals in 26 home games, that shows incredible offensive power.
Madrid loss is very wide 3: 0 is a very wide gap, and I don't think they can recover from that or even equalize. The problem with Madrid really is their defense they have a hard time defending opponents, and if they can work on their defense am sure they can do better next time.
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