Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign

[fadl4]

I think  at the forum court, we have to have arguments and evidence.  Assumptions can be refuted with arguments. 
If I assume from the words of mnixxo, the GM who deleted it was you based on the evidence that you were the only GM who defended papa bear in smallrabbit group tele.
if you ask where is my assumption?  from my instincts.

You have to prove that it's not you.  Evidence must be answered with evidence, my evidence that you are defending papa bear is in the screen shot that I attached above.  Why are you just playing on words, not referring to evidence and allegations.  Arrogant ?  you should see for yourself.  I'm just an ordinary member and you are a GM, am I not entitled to demand justice.

[fadl4]

As you can see on the above message, BM already approved me for this task. So what is your issue about it ? Also there was no rules about it, that I can't participated on it. If I can ware the signature and have a Potential Hero rank, I though I can join this, and that's why BM approved me. If there was such rules why should I participate on it? Be logical.

Also, why are you tagging GMs? I was the guy who request him to delete my POA, because you and your gang was attacking me continuously with -ve karma, apparently Honourable @Admin can see that only.

I think @fadl4 you are not bigger than ADMIN and BOUNTY MANAGER!!! So please respect them and their decision.

Again I am telling all the GMs and Judges, I am ready to refund all the reward with proof if needed. Also I am requesting @Admin and @mnixxo @dragononcrypto please check the serial -ve karma attack. Everything should be cleared on here. I think one person can give +/- karma after 100 hours, so please launch an investigation about it. A gang can destroy whole forum, as it was happened with other platform.

okay, I know you are accepted by BM. 
What I have a problem with is the clarity of the additional membership and forum rank.  Because as a member I also have the right to ask the rights of each member. 
why am I tagging the GM in this matter, because as a fellow member, why are you the only one which being  defended by Malam90?
And when the judge warned in the thread, why was the POA deleted.

As I said before, arguments are refuted by arguments, strengthened by evidence and assumptions can be taken and strengthened by evidence.

[Malam90]

I think  at the forum court, we have to have arguments and evidence.  Assumptions can be refuted with arguments. 
If I assume from the words of mnixxo, the GM who deleted it was you based on the evidence that you were the only GM who defended papa bear in smallrabbit group tele.
if you ask where is my assumption?  from my instincts.

You have to prove that it's not you.  Evidence must be answered with evidence, my evidence that you are defending papa bear is in the screen shot that I attached above.  Why are you just playing on words, not referring to evidence and allegations.  Arrogant ?  you should see for yourself.  I'm just an ordinary member and you are a GM, am I not entitled to demand justice.

I haven't said it's not i but i asked you who tell that i did it because you aren't mod. Without mod, general users can't see moderation log as its only for moderators.
I already said earlier that i did it for what.

[Master107]

I would like to involve in this good discussion.

Keep calm.

Let us maintain the friendly environment.
Blaming one another won't help. We all commit/ed mistake.

[mnixxo.crypto]

I am locking this topic. Please calm down.

We are friendly forum, so please DON'T attack each other.

Thanks,

[Freemind]

I would like to give my opinion on this... I think we shouldn't accuse anyone without showing the necessary proof, @fadl4 when you had that conversation on the 6th I saw it, and I also thought it wasn't fair, but small rabbit accepted papa bear as a hero, that's why I didn't say anything, the rules about his bounties are set by him. I am a mod, and I can see some logs, but I would never reveal anything, I can only say what I do, and I also make mistakes many times of course, I am not a robot. Since I had the privilege of being a mod I have always had the support and experience of @Malam90, but remember that he is not a robot either.

After saying these words, instead of attacking each other, maybe the admin can get us out of doubt about the true rank of a "member" "potential hero", I have my own idea, but I think it would be very beneficial for this community.

[alltalk]

My rank was given by Honourable Admin, and he gave me this rank after checking my posts quality.

What rank do you mean? Potential Hero? Again I said to you, it is not a default rank but an additional membergroup.
You must read this thread : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=8508.0.
On the thread, admin never said Potential Hero = Hero Member. Don't misunderstand.

Admin: "we hope by doing so, they will stick and fulfill the prophecy and actually getting the hero and legend ranks on our community as well !"
 
It means by giving an additional membergroup "Potential Hero", you are also expected can grow your rank to be Hero or Legend in altcoinstalks as well.

Do you understand @Papa Bear?

Again I am telling all the GMs and Judges

You said all judges?
I never saw any message from you.

Also, are you sure you are telling all GMs? What's the proof?

I am ready to refund all the reward with proof if needed.

Refund? Send it back again to Bounty manager?

I am requesting @Admin and @mnixxo @dragononcrypto please check the serial -ve karma attack. Everything should be cleared on here.

What for?
Do you think members of this forum cannot give negative karma to the scammer?
By the way, as far as I know, only admin can see it. But admin probably checks it when it is really necessary.

Few days ago, Papa Bear requested me to delete the POA post, he confessed that he did wrong and will never do it again. I simply deleted it without any future plan or future think. Later i answered with mnixxo that i deleted it what i have said this.

You must see my comment that quoted the POA. And it is very clear a warning to Papa Bear. In this matter, you should realize there is something wrong with him, and the POA can be needed if there is a further investigation or if there is a complaint from any members. Also, why you didn't contact me first? Or contact mnixxo, as he is the moderator on the bounty section. It is mnixxo's responsibility to delete it. Or just said Papa Bear to click "Report to moderator".

By the way, if you just delete it on the bounty section, it should be on Trash board. Can you restore it now?

@mnixxo @dragononcrypto please see the arrogant of this user.

What for saying this?
What sentences reflect that fadl4 is arrogant.

If you don't feel guilty, why delete it?

No need to say this. Just see what's the reason.

I'm just an ordinary member and you are a GM, am I not entitled to demand justice.

If we are talking about justice, surely everyone has the same right. Moreover, our forum is friendly and supports democracy. If there is a mistake done by any members in this forum, you can report it in a proper way. Even if I do a mistake, you also can report me.



Guys, I know we are a friendly forum but admin also supports democracy.
How we (mnixxo & I) can find further proofs and considerations if there is no discussion on this thread.
All relevant parties need to talk here, so it makes the case clearer for everyone.
As judges, we must provide space for claims and defenses before making a decision.

*But please, use polite words during the discussion.

[Malam90]

@Alltalk mate, i have confessed my unintentional mistake without any hesitation in my first post. If you think it's not sufficient, will you be happy to see if i pm admin to remove me from GM, modz and finally leave the forum? If yes, i am ready. Malam90 is not doing here for his personal interest. Till now, all i did for the communnity, but my all decisions will be 100% correct, i don't think. I am not robot.

[alltalk]

If you think it's not sufficient, will you be happy to see if i pm admin to remove me from GM, modz and finally leave the forum? If yes, i am ready.

No need to do it now, mate. Let's wait for the response from admin first.

NO, you shouldn't leave this forum. I don't think admin wants to ban you because of this case. Keep calm, mate!

[fadl4]

I think  at the forum court, we have to have arguments and evidence.  Assumptions can be refuted with arguments. 
If I assume from the words of mnixxo, the GM who deleted it was you based on the evidence that you were the only GM who defended papa bear in smallrabbit group tele.
if you ask where is my assumption?  from my instincts.

You have to prove that it's not you.  Evidence must be answered with evidence, my evidence that you are defending papa bear is in the screen shot that I attached above.  Why are you just playing on words, not referring to evidence and allegations.  Arrogant ?  you should see for yourself.  I'm just an ordinary member and you are a GM, am I not entitled to demand justice.

I haven't said it's not i but i asked you who tell that i did it because you aren't mod. Without mod, general users can't see moderation log as its only for moderators.
I already said earlier that i did it for what.

I already answered, did you not read it? 
why are you repeating the same question, are you not clear with my answer ??
I assume from mnixxo's statement GM has deleted POA. 
Okay, I'm not a mod, but shouldn't I assume??
~I think every humans have the right to assume~
I will answer papa bear too, I'm not bigger than BM and GM. thats true..
I'm just an ordinary member, don't I have the right to ask for justice ??.

Assumptions and evidence are processes of the law when arguments are debated.

Do you understand the law and debate?  what purpose are we looking for?  decision and evidence. 
Every assumption, argument must have a proof. 
Not just repeating the same question.
It's funny mate.

Okay, I know you're GM..

I hope All GMs , Mods, judges, admin, President and VP can give the arguments at this investigations.
I want to learn about rights and justice of this forum.

thanks

[Master107]

I hope All GMs , Mods, judges, admin, President and VP can give the arguments at this investigations.
I want to learn about rights and justice of this forum.

thanks

I respect and understand you mate.

To be honest, we are a friendly forum. Thats the attractive platform of AltcoinsTalks imo. Let us be understandable, patient, forgiveable, and make us everything in good harmony as long as we are here. 

BTW, I think its enough and fair that HE GOT SCAM BADGE.

For single mistake, please consider that we aren't perfect and no need to expand the problem if already been told.

We make friends and family here imo. 

[Nostoman]

Guys please Keep calm. And please respect each other.

[dragononcrypto]

Guys, i am man, i am not free from mistakes. If Dragon, mnixxo think it as general mistake of me, they can warn me or take big step. 

I think it would of been better for you to acknowledge deleting the poa post, rather than deflect from this based on it being confidential information, but ultimately nevermind. Hopefully you've learnt from this mistake. I'd also generally do the same for a user (deleting posts) when requested, but sometimes we have to consider the consequences of our actions how and we can end up in the middle of a situation like this.

Thanks for responding none of the less +2.

I will be waiting for your response too @dragononcrypto. Thank you.

This is up to the elected Judges, not me.

Double post -1.

Also I am requesting @Admin and @mnixxo @dragononcrypto please check the serial -ve karma attack. Everything should be cleared on here. I think one person can give +/- karma after 100 hours, so please launch an investigation about it. A gang can destroy whole forum, as it was happened with other platform.

-2 or -3 isn't enough for an investigation. It's probably not targeted, but distributed among different users who are entitled to give -karma as they feel appropriate. Karma is curated by the community.
Regardless I've given you +3, due to your acknowledgement of wrong doing and engaging in this discussion. The scammer tag I can't help you with I'm afraid, that's not up to me.

Good investigation.

Shitposting -1.

We are friendly forum, so please DON'T attack each other.

Ideally this should happen.

Guys, I know we are a friendly forum but admin also supports democracy.

Me too 

Let's wait for the response from admin first.

Let's not? Admin has better things to do than mediate bounty based disputes, like administrating the forum. This is what you as a Judge is for, so admin doesn't have to waste his time with this nonsense.
This isn't an administrative issue, it's court based. If admin wants to give his two satoshis towards the discussion he will, but please don't waste his time with this. It's not worth it in my opinion.

I hope All GMs , Mods, judges, admin, President and VP can give the arguments at this investigations.

I really hope more GMs, mods, admin, VP and myself don't waste more time with this personally.
I'm looking forward to a Judge locking this thread personally, as intended.

[Cryptoz]

I backed to this section to see my further case before about Cartesi, the POA of the scammer has been archived (don't know who deleted it) but the thread was locked so I couldn't respond anymore after long sleep .. 
And I found a new case here, yeah.

-snip-

First of all, I really appreciated your bravery to reveal this case. Not all members dare to do it, because this can also be at risk for your account if some certain members here don't like you then your account will be attacked or get a counterattack from various parties.
Really appreciate what you did here.

But I don't know why the Honorable Mr. President gave you - karma only because of double posts, while the posts are referred to different members.
I am asking here as an ordinary member,
is there any restriction to do that or is that not allowed to do this and will get -Karma? Where I can check this because I commonly saw several posts like this, if there is this restriction, I will also give negative karma.

Double post -1.

And without intending to be massive or disrespectful, I am on the opposite.
I will appreciate you as the OP with +5 karma (but honestly, I can't do it directly, notification:  "there's sorry writing, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 100 hours". I think it is like a merit system in another forum where I can give it more than 1 at the same time, what do I don't know? Lol)  , I gave it as my appreciation revealing the cheater in this forum and I am really sure that this must be appreciated by whoever, especially members here who care about this forum.

I also give each +3 for the judges @alltalk and @mnixxo that have supported and make fair solutions to this case.
And also give +1 karma to others who are also a good discussion on this thread.

And I gave -3 karma to the cheater because he deserves it. Although it is a friendly forum doesn't mean acceptance for a cheater. or is it acceptable?

It is funny, I am not the kind of people who really care about this, and telling one by one to give Karma if it is not necessary. But I only follow the Honorable Mr.President here as a "Role Model" here.

I don't know who you all are, but seeing the discussion on this thread and seeing who you are all here, most are the administrators and staff here. And I am as an ordinary member really expect that "a Fair Judgement and Solution" for this. It is so funny.

And WOW, I super surprised when seeing these:

Regardless I've given you +3, due to your acknowledgement of wrong doing and engaging in this discussion.

I really really don't know with the system of Karma here and how we can give it, it is only based on a person?
I am really jealous of this concern,
How could a Cheater get + karma just because he wanted to discuss this thread until it showed I Gave +3 karma on this post?
Whereas I used to investigate my case by myself, solved my case, no one cared about me and did not help solve my case here, adn whether I gave that kind of LONG INVESTIGATION RESULT, NO ONE gave me and say I gave you + Karma on it.
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=208085.msg1161328#msg1161328

And the Most Honorable President only typed Like this: not giving and supporting with +Karma like what has the Honorable Mr President did to the cheater.

Good luck with that 

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=208085.msg1159606#msg1159606
like what @Nostoman did and get -karma because of it
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Good investigation.

)
But I know and I am aware, I am nobody here and I don't have any power. Moreover, I'm sure the Honorable Mr. President is certainly very fair in doing something.
And if this forum is friendly, why gave -Karma the OP because of his very very small mistake? Or, I am actually really curious about the system of Karma itself.

Well, aside from this personal opinion.
I also feel that the here other thing is about the Honorable all Moderators, to prevent this case, I know that You are all also a humanbeing, and you have limitation to do something because of the health, time, or energy.
But, I am as an ordinary member really hope that whenever you got any case or somebody asked you to do or act something, you must be careful in deciding when to delete any posts or others, because whatever the condition, staffs are staffs, different with ordinary members.

And here I don't intend to make this thread weird again and again, but actually, I am really curious about what happens this far on this thread.
With the decision to give +3 karma to the cheater, I will always note this that:
Every member here who is a cheater, spammers, or whatever the mistakes are done, what you need to do is by saying "sorry for my mistake" and also involved and engaged in the discussion thread, and you will get +3 karma.
This is one of the things that I can get from this thread.
So, don't worry if you make any mistakes later, I will remind everyone to do this. Really interesting, I will keep this in mind, screenshot, and others.

Isn't that like that Mr. President?

And I probably will get -Karma because I have said something bad here, no problem. That is me.

I like this forum because intended to make this forum more friendly for members (or also for cheatehrs?).

[damsix]

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