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Re: 🇪🇺_ UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season (⚽⚽)
« Reply #270 on: October 12, 2024, 04:22:49 PM »
For the Manchester United team that's going through challenging phases of draws and losses, maintaining unity among players, fans, and management is key to progress but ETH makes the fans heartbroken
It's all three seasons, and we hear we have to improve, but things keep going from bad to worse, just wasting time by letting him continue, zero progress in 3 seasons.
However, I am a fan of the Red Devils, and I am a fan unconditionally.
So I still hope United gets better as the season goes on.
3 seasons should be enough for Ten Hag. He failed to build Man United squad stronger again. Although Man United won 2 trophies under Ten Hag's management, it is not the major trophies. Especially for this season, the performance of Man United players is getting worse. Many people are surprised with very badly performance of Man United. I think it is enough to let Ten hag to manage Man United. This should be the last season for Ten Hag. Man United needs a new coach if they want to have a better season. Ten Hag can't fulfill the expectation.

I know and I agree with you. I hope INEOS will sack Ten Hag today or after the international break but They won’t sack him.
INEOS are scared because the next manager is their choice, and then they will be judged. Ten Hag will be used as a scapegoat and they can say they gave him time. INEOS is still exploring manager options.
Unfortunately, it's a matter of time for Ten Hag until INEOS grows a backbone and finds its man. IMO

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Re: 🇪🇺_ UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season (⚽⚽)
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Re: 🇪🇺_ UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season (⚽⚽)
« Reply #271 on: October 13, 2024, 03:07:30 PM »
I know and I agree with you. I hope INEOS will sack Ten Hag today or after the international break but They won’t sack him.
INEOS are scared because the next manager is their choice, and then they will be judged. Ten Hag will be used as a scapegoat and they can say they gave him time. INEOS is still exploring manager options.
Unfortunately, it's a matter of time for Ten Hag until INEOS grows a backbone and finds its man. IMO
I think all the steps taken will have risks, whether it is firing Erik Ten Hag or not. But at least by firing their current coach it makes them have new hope for the coach they will appoint.

I think they don't need to think about whether they will succeed or not, because if they don't try then the results will not be known. Risks will always be there, but maybe when they replace Erik Ten Hag it can make Manchester United even better.

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Re: 🇪🇺_ UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season (⚽⚽)
« Reply #272 on: October 13, 2024, 03:48:15 PM »
I think all the steps taken will have risks, whether it is firing Erik Ten Hag or not. But at least by firing their current coach it makes them have new hope for the coach they will appoint.

I think they don't need to think about whether they will succeed or not, because if they don't try then the results will not be known. Risks will always be there, but maybe when they replace Erik Ten Hag it can make Manchester United even better.
Maintaining Ten Hag also carries risks, namely that this team could continue like this from time to time. and firing Ten Hag also carries risks. Because it is possible that Man United will end up getting a coach who is also unable to bring positive changes to this team. But by changing coaches there will always be new hopes. because at least the club could have succeeded in finding a better replacement. Which immediately brings positive changes. Like Chelsea and Liverpool who managed to get coaches who were able to bring the club to good performance.

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Re: 🇪🇺_ UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season (⚽⚽)
« Reply #273 on: October 13, 2024, 07:36:11 PM »
I know and I agree with you. I hope INEOS will sack Ten Hag today or after the international break but They won’t sack him.
INEOS are scared because the next manager is their choice, and then they will be judged. Ten Hag will be used as a scapegoat and they can say they gave him time. INEOS is still exploring manager options.
Unfortunately, it's a matter of time for Ten Hag until INEOS grows a backbone and finds its man. IMO
Its difficult sack Erik ten Hag from his position after international break out, need waiting around two until three matches result with United keep in the winning trend again or get loss before appointing new manager for replacing Erik ten Hag position. Actually seems enough how poor performance of Manchester United in this season and still not late for new manager build up new tactician bring United return to the top fourth position place. Have opportunity if appointing new manager when window transfer January opening and build the solid teams.

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Re: 🇪🇺_ UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season (⚽⚽)
« Reply #274 on: October 13, 2024, 09:10:11 PM »
I know and I agree with you. I hope INEOS will sack Ten Hag today or after the international break but They won’t sack him.
INEOS are scared because the next manager is their choice, and then they will be judged. Ten Hag will be used as a scapegoat and they can say they gave him time. INEOS is still exploring manager options.
Unfortunately, it's a matter of time for Ten Hag until INEOS grows a backbone and finds its man. IMO
I think all the steps taken will have risks, whether it is firing Erik Ten Hag or not. But at least by firing their current coach it makes them have new hope for the coach they will appoint.

I think they don't need to think about whether they will succeed or not, because if they don't try then the results will not be known. Risks will always be there, but maybe when they replace Erik Ten Hag it can make Manchester United even better.
You are right, it is better to risk it and sack Ten Hag than taking the risk of keeping him, because he has done his best and it wasn't good enough. There is no amount of time that is given to Ten Hag that will make any difference rather it might worsen the club's performance, and this is why a change is the best option. The management needs to act fast only if they are not worried about the current condition of the club this believing in Ten Hag for improvement.

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Re: 🇪🇺_ UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season (⚽⚽)
« Reply #275 on: October 13, 2024, 09:13:50 PM »
I know and I agree with you. I hope INEOS will sack Ten Hag today or after the international break but They won’t sack him.
INEOS are scared because the next manager is their choice, and then they will be judged. Ten Hag will be used as a scapegoat and they can say they gave him time. INEOS is still exploring manager options.
Unfortunately, it's a matter of time for Ten Hag until INEOS grows a backbone and finds its man. IMO
I think all the steps taken will have risks, whether it is firing Erik Ten Hag or not. But at least by firing their current coach it makes them have new hope for the coach they will appoint.

I think they don't need to think about whether they will succeed or not, because if they don't try then the results will not be known. Risks will always be there, but maybe when they replace Erik Ten Hag it can make Manchester United even better.
You are right, it is better to risk it and sack Ten Hag than taking the risk of keeping him, because he has done his best and it wasn't good enough. There is no amount of time that is given to Ten Hag that will make any difference rather it might worsen the club's performance, and this is why a change is the best option. The management needs to act fast only if they are not worried about the current condition of the club this believing in Ten Hag for improvement.

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Re: 🇪🇺_ UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season (⚽⚽)
« Reply #276 on: October 13, 2024, 10:32:33 PM »
I know and I agree with you. I hope INEOS will sack Ten Hag today or after the international break but They won’t sack him.
INEOS are scared because the next manager is their choice, and then they will be judged. Ten Hag will be used as a scapegoat and they can say they gave him time. INEOS is still exploring manager options.
Unfortunately, it's a matter of time for Ten Hag until INEOS grows a backbone and finds its man. IMO
Its difficult sack Erik ten Hag from his position after international break out, need waiting around two until three matches result with United keep in the winning trend again or get loss before appointing new manager for replacing Erik ten Hag position. Actually seems enough how poor performance of Manchester United in this season and still not late for new manager build up new tactician bring United return to the top fourth position place. Have opportunity if appointing new manager when window transfer January opening and build the solid teams.
If for example Erik Ten Hag wins the next two matches he will get another seat at Man United the manager will not fire him while he can still win. Lol
After winning two then losing again and this makes fans hot and disappointed to see his strategy.

If the scenario is like that.

But we don't know how the club management's attitude after Man United fell behind in the Premier League maybe if there is an intention to fire but if you see Ten Hag's development again then it could be that he will be retained.

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Re: 🇪🇺_ UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season (⚽⚽)
« Reply #277 on: October 15, 2024, 03:34:13 PM »

I don't know if Tottenham sometimes play very well and sometimes even seem capable of competing with other top teams, but in decisive moments they experience more failures. And remember that Harry Kane was initially said to be an unlucky player because when he was at Tottenham the team always failed to win the title. But it looks like Harry Kane isn't the unlucky one. but it is the Tottenham club itself that is unlucky. Now in the Europa League I doubt they will succeed in winning the title. but if it turns out that Tottenham managed to get him then everyone's assumption will return to Harry Kane's misfortune. because last season Bayern Munich even failed to win the title in the Bundesliga in Harry Kane's first season joining the club.  ;D

Lol, it's true about Harry Kane, I hope it's just a coincidence, it seems to me that things will always be regrettable because they haven't been helped, Tottenham is a good team , but in the moments of making decisions they always do things wrong , and that's something difficult, I think that sometimes things can be like that if they try to lack luck , and with Bayern it was Something different because Leverkusen last season seemed like a Steamroller , no team gave them a chance to Defend themselves , Honestly what Xabi Alonso did was a genius and no team had the Capacity to React.
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Re: 🇪🇺_ UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season (⚽⚽)
« Reply #278 on: October 15, 2024, 07:24:08 PM »
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Its difficult sack Erik ten Hag from his position after international break out, need waiting around two until three matches result with United keep in the winning trend again or get loss before appointing new manager for replacing Erik ten Hag position. Actually seems enough how poor performance of Manchester United in this season and still not late for new manager build up new tactician bring United return to the top fourth position place. Have opportunity if appointing new manager when window transfer January opening and build the solid teams.
If for example Erik Ten Hag wins the next two matches he will get another seat at Man United the manager will not fire him while he can still win. Lol
After winning two then losing again and this makes fans hot and disappointed to see his strategy.

If the scenario is like that.

But we don't know how the club management's attitude after Man United fell behind in the Premier League maybe if there is an intention to fire but if you see Ten Hag's development again then it could be that he will be retained.

Yeah, it's a bad scenario... but like I said before, it's just a matter of time.
INEOS will sack Ten Hag once they find a coach who they truly believe will be able to make improvements at the club.
it's a critical moment for INEOS and Manchester United,  United needs stability, but results are crucial.
This is a disappointing show from Sir Jim, over spent on player transfers and hasn’t rebuilt the training facilities but also had the money to spend on building the walls of Jericho for a manager with no identified tactics.

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Re: 🇪🇺_ UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season (⚽⚽)
« Reply #279 on: October 16, 2024, 03:42:42 PM »
I think all the steps taken will have risks, whether it is firing Erik Ten Hag or not. But at least by firing their current coach it makes them have new hope for the coach they will appoint.

I think they don't need to think about whether they will succeed or not, because if they don't try then the results will not be known. Risks will always be there, but maybe when they replace Erik Ten Hag it can make Manchester United even better.
Maintaining Ten Hag also carries risks, namely that this team could continue like this from time to time. and firing Ten Hag also carries risks. Because it is possible that Man United will end up getting a coach who is also unable to bring positive changes to this team. But by changing coaches there will always be new hopes. because at least the club could have succeeded in finding a better replacement. Which immediately brings positive changes. Like Chelsea and Liverpool who managed to get coaches who were able to bring the club to good performance.
Just like I said before, we have seen many teams that keep their managers and change their managers end up failing, and not infrequently also end up with better results.

But the problem right now is in the management of Manchester United in my opinion, because they don't seem to want to change their manager even though under Erik Ten Hag they haven't found any reason to keep Erik Ten Hag. I'm a little bit strange about that.

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« Reply #280 on: October 16, 2024, 04:09:00 PM »
You are right, it is better to risk it and sack Ten Hag than taking the risk of keeping him, because he has done his best and it wasn't good enough. There is no amount of time that is given to Ten Hag that will make any difference rather it might worsen the club's performance, and this is why a change is the best option. The management needs to act fast only if they are not worried about the current condition of the club this believing in Ten Hag for improvement.

eeee.... I understand, two years have passed and nothing has been achieved!
he's not good as a manager, you remind me in my time that Manchester United was a war machine that never stopped
How is it possible that it has fallen to the bottom of the rankings?


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Re: 🇪🇺_ UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season (⚽⚽)
« Reply #281 on: October 16, 2024, 04:45:13 PM »
You are right, it is better to risk it and sack Ten Hag than taking the risk of keeping him, because he has done his best and it wasn't good enough. There is no amount of time that is given to Ten Hag that will make any difference rather it might worsen the club's performance, and this is why a change is the best option. The management needs to act fast only if they are not worried about the current condition of the club this believing in Ten Hag for improvement.

eeee.... I understand, two years have passed and nothing has been achieved!
he's not good as a manager, you remind me in my time that Manchester United was a war machine that never stopped
How is it possible that it has fallen to the bottom of the rankings?


If it's good for them, it's good enough for me

I heard that the united board held a 7 hours meeting before the beginning of this past international break, only to come out with a conclusion to still retain ten hag. It's obvious that there is no backup plan if ten hag eventually use the exit. Tuchel just got another job, which means he isn't available for consideration either.

If united wanted to sack ten hag, they would've done that weeks back. But as it stands, they still have so much believe in him.
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Re: 🇪🇺_ UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season (⚽⚽)
« Reply #282 on: October 16, 2024, 05:46:39 PM »

I don't know if Tottenham sometimes play very well and sometimes even seem capable of competing with other top teams, but in decisive moments they experience more failures. And remember that Harry Kane was initially said to be an unlucky player because when he was at Tottenham the team always failed to win the title. But it looks like Harry Kane isn't the unlucky one. but it is the Tottenham club itself that is unlucky. Now in the Europa League I doubt they will succeed in winning the title. but if it turns out that Tottenham managed to get him then everyone's assumption will return to Harry Kane's misfortune. because last season Bayern Munich even failed to win the title in the Bundesliga in Harry Kane's first season joining the club.  ;D

Lol, it's true about Harry Kane, I hope it's just a coincidence, it seems to me that things will always be regrettable because they haven't been helped, Tottenham is a good team , but in the moments of making decisions they always do things wrong , and that's something difficult, I think that sometimes things can be like that if they try to lack luck , and with Bayern it was Something different because Leverkusen last season seemed like a Steamroller , no team gave them a chance to Defend themselves , Honestly what Xabi Alonso did was a genius and no team had the Capacity to React.
Well, I hope it's a coincidence. Because if it's not a coincidence then it's pretty scary.  ;D
Harry Kane is a quality player who actually deserves a lot of awards. But as we know, this player has very little appreciation. Because the clubs he joined experienced more failures in winning awards. And let's see this season whether Bayern will win the Bundesliga or not. If not then well everyone's conversation will definitely lead to that myth again.

Leverkusen with Xabi Alonso is indeed a strong team. But this season they are focused on the UCL which means their ranking in the Bundesliga is not as good as last season.

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« Reply #283 on: October 18, 2024, 04:14:24 PM »
Tottenham is one of the big teams in the European League this season, they are one of the favorites to win the title. That is natural because their status cannot be underestimated, especially since they also come from the English league.

However, the concern is that they are a good team, but not that good to be champions. We can see them for a long time in the English League, they only become a competition warmer without being able to become champions.

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Re: 🇪🇺_ UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season (⚽⚽)
« Reply #284 on: October 21, 2024, 04:38:15 PM »
Well, I hope it's a coincidence. Because if it's not a coincidence then it's pretty scary.  ;D
Harry Kane is a quality player who actually deserves a lot of awards. But as we know, this player has very little appreciation. Because the clubs he joined experienced more failures in winning awards. And let's see this season whether Bayern will win the Bundesliga or not. If not then well everyone's conversation will definitely lead to that myth again.

Leverkusen with Xabi Alonso is indeed a strong team. But this season they are focused on the UCL which means their ranking in the Bundesliga is not as good as last season.

Well yes, I hope it is also like that, the times that Harry Kane plays it is a wonder, personally I know that this player can make the difference and as for the things he can achieve with the team, why not a Bundesliga, they have everything, let's hope that myth is broken too, it's just that he hasn't had enough luck for that, now that he is with a team that supports him as he is and that wants to win everything then it is possible, in the case of Leverkusen you are completely right, Xabi is doing like many teams, only focusing on the UCL because he knows that he already made history with his team in the Bundesliga, now all that remains is to wait.
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