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Re: [NBA] Unofficial Discussion Thread
« Reply #510 on: July 03, 2024, 09:33:15 PM »
That is true, he wanted to make the most money and probably at least a last run with Joel Embiid in the Philly uniform, and so that is a good choice. I think the Clippers are still good with Harden though, they sign him for another 2 years so they still have a good franchise player with Kahwi.

And then Thompson as what we have expected are going to leave the Warriors as he join Luka in Dallas. Good addition to them, and a big lost for the Warriors, but let's see what the Warriors will do, maybe they will get someone in the middle position or a top  caliber center and not trade Kuminga and Wiggins.

Warriors lost Jordan Poole last season and they didn't replace which was one of their biggest mistake, they've started threading the same path this season as well, losing Klay Thompson might not be much of a big deal because sooner or later it was bound to happen, and Klay Thompson was particularly when he had to come from the bench at some point during the season, my main concern is that the additions Warriors are looking to make or are making isn't what they're know for and they're losing their identity gradually, their addition of Kyle Anderson is something I still completely don't understand, because I don't know how he fits into the warriors roster to be very honest.
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Re: [NBA] Unofficial Discussion Thread
« Reply #510 on: July 03, 2024, 09:33:15 PM »

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Re: [NBA] Unofficial Discussion Thread
« Reply #511 on: July 04, 2024, 07:41:17 AM »
That is true, he wanted to make the most money and probably at least a last run with Joel Embiid in the Philly uniform, and so that is a good choice. I think the Clippers are still good with Harden though, they sign him for another 2 years so they still have a good franchise player with Kahwi.

And then Thompson as what we have expected are going to leave the Warriors as he join Luka in Dallas. Good addition to them, and a big lost for the Warriors, but let's see what the Warriors will do, maybe they will get someone in the middle position or a top  caliber center and not trade Kuminga and Wiggins.

Warriors lost Jordan Poole last season and they didn't replace which was one of their biggest mistake, they've started threading the same path this season as well, losing Klay Thompson might not be much of a big deal because sooner or later it was bound to happen, and Klay Thompson was particularly when he had to come from the bench at some point during the season, my main concern is that the additions Warriors are looking to make or are making isn't what they're know for and they're losing their identity gradually, their addition of Kyle Anderson is something I still completely don't understand, because I don't know how he fits into the warriors roster to be very honest.
For me, I don't consider Jordan Poole a "loss" for the Warriors after how awful he played after that championship year. I would consider giving him that huge a contract a bad decision. They did replace Poole with Paul when the Suns traded him for Bradley Beal. It just turned out that it wasn't fit for them. As for Klay, his ego is the problem here because he doesn't want the fact that he was replaced as starting SG position by a rookie (Podziemski). Also, the salary I guess is another one, but how they treated him is the main reason. Losing him means the end of the Splash Brothers and the trio core of the Warriors, but a new beginning for them.

Adding Anderson would be a good start, and I hope his shooting form will change now. :D I expect more players will be traded to the Warriors this off-season. I hope they can still get an all-star player that could help Steph now that PG13 is in Philly already.

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Re: [NBA] Unofficial Discussion Thread
« Reply #512 on: July 04, 2024, 08:44:47 AM »
That is true, he wanted to make the most money and probably at least a last run with Joel Embiid in the Philly uniform, and so that is a good choice. I think the Clippers are still good with Harden though, they sign him for another 2 years so they still have a good franchise player with Kahwi.

And then Thompson as what we have expected are going to leave the Warriors as he join Luka in Dallas. Good addition to them, and a big lost for the Warriors, but let's see what the Warriors will do, maybe they will get someone in the middle position or a top  caliber center and not trade Kuminga and Wiggins.

Warriors lost Jordan Poole last season and they didn't replace which was one of their biggest mistake, they've started threading the same path this season as well, losing Klay Thompson might not be much of a big deal because sooner or later it was bound to happen, and Klay Thompson was particularly when he had to come from the bench at some point during the season, my main concern is that the additions Warriors are looking to make or are making isn't what they're know for and they're losing their identity gradually, their addition of Kyle Anderson is something I still completely don't understand, because I don't know how he fits into the warriors roster to be very honest.
For me, I don't consider Jordan Poole a "loss" for the Warriors after how awful he played after that championship year. I would consider giving him that huge a contract a bad decision. They did replace Poole with Paul when the Suns traded him for Bradley Beal. It just turned out that it wasn't fit for them. As for Klay, his ego is the problem here because he doesn't want the fact that he was replaced as starting SG position by a rookie (Podziemski). Also, the salary I guess is another one, but how they treated him is the main reason. Losing him means the end of the Splash Brothers and the trio core of the Warriors, but a new beginning for them.

Adding Anderson would be a good start, and I hope his shooting form will change now. :D I expect more players will be traded to the Warriors this off-season. I hope they can still get an all-star player that could help Steph now that PG13 is in Philly already.


That’s the problem with the either the Warriors GM and/or front office, players aren’t allowed to have a bad stretch or season, Jordan Poole was a young guy and there was still lot of learning and adjustment to do with, It’s more easier to adjust how Poole should than it is with Chris Paul, of course I’m not comparing these players. We’ve all seen Andrew Wiggins had a bad stretch and there were already talks of trading him, losing Jordan Poole was not my problem but the fact they didn’t get another shooter that could lift the pressure off Steph and Klay was the problem, the same thing goes for DiVicenzo… I learnt they might be trading for Buddy Hield though, even at that they’ll still need a couple of guys ghat can hold it down when the going gets tough, and Slow-Mo in my opinion is never that guy, although I love his days at Memphis Grizzlies though
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Re: [NBA] Unofficial Discussion Thread
« Reply #513 on: July 04, 2024, 02:39:31 PM »
That’s the problem with the either the Warriors GM and/or front office, players aren’t allowed to have a bad stretch or season, Jordan Poole was a young guy and there was still lot of learning and adjustment to do with, It’s more easier to adjust how Poole should than it is with Chris Paul, of course I’m not comparing these players. We’ve all seen Andrew Wiggins had a bad stretch and there were already talks of trading him, losing Jordan Poole was not my problem but the fact they didn’t get another shooter that could lift the pressure off Steph and Klay was the problem, the same thing goes for DiVicenzo… I learnt they might be trading for Buddy Hield though, even at that they’ll still need a couple of guys ghat can hold it down when the going gets tough, and Slow-Mo in my opinion is never that guy, although I love his days at Memphis Grizzlies though

I think the roster of the Warriors may change a lot this offseason, especially after the news of Klay's leaving. Curry is probably the only one who doesn't have to worry about trades because the Warriors management will probably do everything to keep him on the team for the rest of his career. All other Warriors players should be on the lookout because they could be part of a trade.
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Re: [NBA] Unofficial Discussion Thread
« Reply #514 on: July 04, 2024, 06:30:01 PM »
That’s the problem with the either the Warriors GM and/or front office, players aren’t allowed to have a bad stretch or season, Jordan Poole was a young guy and there was still lot of learning and adjustment to do with, It’s more easier to adjust how Poole should than it is with Chris Paul, of course I’m not comparing these players. We’ve all seen Andrew Wiggins had a bad stretch and there were already talks of trading him, losing Jordan Poole was not my problem but the fact they didn’t get another shooter that could lift the pressure off Steph and Klay was the problem, the same thing goes for DiVicenzo… I learnt they might be trading for Buddy Hield though, even at that they’ll still need a couple of guys ghat can hold it down when the going gets tough, and Slow-Mo in my opinion is never that guy, although I love his days at Memphis Grizzlies though

I think the roster of the Warriors may change a lot this offseason, especially after the news of Klay's leaving. Curry is probably the only one who doesn't have to worry about trades because the Warriors management will probably do everything to keep him on the team for the rest of his career. All other Warriors players should be on the lookout because they could be part of a trade.

It will definitely change a lot, CP3 and Klay is already out and they've added Kyle Anderson. And there are a lot of noises from the social media that they are looking at Lauri Markkanen as well. So that is a interesting catch for them if ever they will absorb a good player to be in the middle.

And if that happens, then they might trade Looney as well and most likely keep Kuminga, not sure about Wiggins though, maybe he will still be a Warrior and hopefully he can improved again like the last time that they become a champion in 2022.

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« Reply #515 on: July 05, 2024, 03:11:13 AM »
That’s the problem with the either the Warriors GM and/or front office, players aren’t allowed to have a bad stretch or season, Jordan Poole was a young guy and there was still lot of learning and adjustment to do with, It’s more easier to adjust how Poole should than it is with Chris Paul, of course I’m not comparing these players. We’ve all seen Andrew Wiggins had a bad stretch and there were already talks of trading him, losing Jordan Poole was not my problem but the fact they didn’t get another shooter that could lift the pressure off Steph and Klay was the problem, the same thing goes for DiVicenzo… I learnt they might be trading for Buddy Hield though, even at that they’ll still need a couple of guys ghat can hold it down when the going gets tough, and Slow-Mo in my opinion is never that guy, although I love his days at Memphis Grizzlies though
Well, that's one of their mistakes as well. They traded Poole but didn't get any shooter in return to help the Splash Brothers in offense. Now they paid the consequences last season. No reliable shooters aside from Steph and even Klay is having an up-and down nights. Wiggins on the other hand has been inconsistent for the whole regular season like Klay hence, they're trying to trade him to another player/s. I hope that he will gets traded because the management can't give him another year anymore, and then he will be again inconsistent.

As for Buddy Hield, they got him already through a sign-and-trade. For me, Hield is one of the most underrated three-point shooters in the league for a long time. If you will talk about three-point shooters, nobody will say "Buddy Hield". Just for context, he's 2nd in most number of three-pointers made since 2017 with 1,924. The first is of course, Steph with 2,154. Now we have a new "Splash Brothers 2.0" in Golden State. They need more guys, so I expect more trades. I would predict more three-point shooters and better defenders. A good three-and-D guy would be a good addition to them.

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« Reply #516 on: July 05, 2024, 03:48:50 PM »
That’s the problem with the either the Warriors GM and/or front office, players aren’t allowed to have a bad stretch or season, Jordan Poole was a young guy and there was still lot of learning and adjustment to do with, It’s more easier to adjust how Poole should than it is with Chris Paul, of course I’m not comparing these players. We’ve all seen Andrew Wiggins had a bad stretch and there were already talks of trading him, losing Jordan Poole was not my problem but the fact they didn’t get another shooter that could lift the pressure off Steph and Klay was the problem, the same thing goes for DiVicenzo… I learnt they might be trading for Buddy Hield though, even at that they’ll still need a couple of guys ghat can hold it down when the going gets tough, and Slow-Mo in my opinion is never that guy, although I love his days at Memphis Grizzlies though
Well, that's one of their mistakes as well. They traded Poole but didn't get any shooter in return to help the Splash Brothers in offense. Now they paid the consequences last season. No reliable shooters aside from Steph and even Klay is having an up-and down nights. Wiggins on the other hand has been inconsistent for the whole regular season like Klay hence, they're trying to trade him to another player/s. I hope that he will gets traded because the management can't give him another year anymore, and then he will be again inconsistent.

As for Buddy Hield, they got him already through a sign-and-trade. For me, Hield is one of the most underrated three-point shooters in the league for a long time. If you will talk about three-point shooters, nobody will say "Buddy Hield". Just for context, he's 2nd in most number of three-pointers made since 2017 with 1,924. The first is of course, Steph with 2,154. Now we have a new "Splash Brothers 2.0" in Golden State. They need more guys, so I expect more trades. I would predict more three-point shooters and better defenders. A good three-and-D guy would be a good addition to them.

Yeah right, they however have seemed to be do quite a bit of good trades and signing right now first with Buddy Hield and then De'Anthony Melton who is also not just a good shooter but also an impressive defense addition, let's wait and see what else they'll be looking to bring to the table over the next few weeks ahead of the camp.
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Re: [NBA] Unofficial Discussion Thread
« Reply #516 on: July 05, 2024, 03:48:50 PM »


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Re: [NBA] Unofficial Discussion Thread
« Reply #517 on: July 06, 2024, 02:31:02 AM »
That’s the problem with the either the Warriors GM and/or front office, players aren’t allowed to have a bad stretch or season, Jordan Poole was a young guy and there was still lot of learning and adjustment to do with, It’s more easier to adjust how Poole should than it is with Chris Paul, of course I’m not comparing these players. We’ve all seen Andrew Wiggins had a bad stretch and there were already talks of trading him, losing Jordan Poole was not my problem but the fact they didn’t get another shooter that could lift the pressure off Steph and Klay was the problem, the same thing goes for DiVicenzo… I learnt they might be trading for Buddy Hield though, even at that they’ll still need a couple of guys ghat can hold it down when the going gets tough, and Slow-Mo in my opinion is never that guy, although I love his days at Memphis Grizzlies though
Well, that's one of their mistakes as well. They traded Poole but didn't get any shooter in return to help the Splash Brothers in offense. Now they paid the consequences last season. No reliable shooters aside from Steph and even Klay is having an up-and down nights. Wiggins on the other hand has been inconsistent for the whole regular season like Klay hence, they're trying to trade him to another player/s. I hope that he will gets traded because the management can't give him another year anymore, and then he will be again inconsistent.

Poole though was big revelation to them during his stint, and he just become a shooter as Curry was injured and so is Klay. So he was born out of necessity, but when the Splash brother come together in 2022, obviously having another shooter is good. But perhaps the Warriors gamble when they got rid of him and thought that Klay is back, unfortunately, it didn't materialized for them as Klay shooting and form is not their anymore as he struggles last season,

As for Buddy Hield, they got him already through a sign-and-trade. For me, Hield is one of the most underrated three-point shooters in the league for a long time. If you will talk about three-point shooters, nobody will say "Buddy Hield". Just for context, he's 2nd in most number of three-pointers made since 2017 with 1,924. The first is of course, Steph with 2,154. Now we have a new "Splash Brothers 2.0" in Golden State. They need more guys, so I expect more trades. I would predict more three-point shooters and better defenders. A good three-and-D guy would be a good addition to them.

One thing with Hield is that he is a good defender as well, and him and Curry could be the Splash Brothers, upgraded version. So let's see if they are going to get Lauri Markkanen, another great addition if it materialized as it will be a different Warrior now.

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Re: [NBA] Unofficial Discussion Thread
« Reply #518 on: July 06, 2024, 03:43:27 AM »
As for Buddy Hield, they got him already through a sign-and-trade. For me, Hield is one of the most underrated three-point shooters in the league for a long time. If you will talk about three-point shooters, nobody will say "Buddy Hield". Just for context, he's 2nd in most number of three-pointers made since 2017 with 1,924. The first is of course, Steph with 2,154. Now we have a new "Splash Brothers 2.0" in Golden State. They need more guys, so I expect more trades. I would predict more three-point shooters and better defenders. A good three-and-D guy would be a good addition to them.

One thing with Hield is that he is a good defender as well, and him and Curry could be the Splash Brothers, upgraded version. So let's see if they are going to get Lauri Markkanen, another great addition if it materialized as it will be a different Warrior now.
Klay was a great defender as well - before he got injured of course. :D Anyway, this might be an upgraded version of Splash Brothers like you said, but let's see how they will complement each other when they play together. It would be better if they will add more three-point shooters in their team.

As for Markannen, can I ask if he's available for trade? I mean did the Jazz told to the media that they are trading him. He still has 1 year on his contract and after that, he will be an UFA. I would love to see him going to the Warriors, and many are talking about it as well.

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Re: [NBA] Unofficial Discussion Thread
« Reply #519 on: July 06, 2024, 02:10:40 PM »
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Curry is probably the only one who doesn't have to worry about trades because the Warriors management will probably do everything to keep him on the team for the rest of his career.
Draymond probably secured himself until he retires with the Warriors. I think the management chose to keep him as Curry's main partner over Klay when they gave him the $100M four-year contract.


In case you missed it, reports say that Lebron agreed to a 2-year $104 million with the Lakers. I think nobody is surprised here after they drafted the son.

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Re: [NBA] Unofficial Discussion Thread
« Reply #520 on: July 06, 2024, 02:56:09 PM »
As for Buddy Hield, they got him already through a sign-and-trade. For me, Hield is one of the most underrated three-point shooters in the league for a long time. If you will talk about three-point shooters, nobody will say "Buddy Hield". Just for context, he's 2nd in most number of three-pointers made since 2017 with 1,924. The first is of course, Steph with 2,154. Now we have a new "Splash Brothers 2.0" in Golden State. They need more guys, so I expect more trades. I would predict more three-point shooters and better defenders. A good three-and-D guy would be a good addition to them.

One thing with Hield is that he is a good defender as well, and him and Curry could be the Splash Brothers, upgraded version. So let's see if they are going to get Lauri Markkanen, another great addition if it materialized as it will be a different Warrior now.
Klay was a great defender as well - before he got injured of course. :D Anyway, this might be an upgraded version of Splash Brothers like you said, but let's see how they will complement each other when they play together. It would be better if they will add more three-point shooters in their team.

I wouldn't call Klay a great defender to be honest, he was just guarding smaller guards that's why we think that he can stop someone. But against a fast and athletic shooting guard he will have a hard time defending them. And I think Buddy Hield is far better defender that him.

As for Markannen, can I ask if he's available for trade? I mean did the Jazz told to the media that they are trading him. He still has 1 year on his contract and after that, he will be an UFA. I would love to see him going to the Warriors, and many are talking about it as well.

As far as I know, yes, he still has a contract with the Jazz. But maybe the Warriors are going to offer the Jazz good money + future picks that the Jazz can't refuse. And it will still be August 6th till the Jazz can make a offer to Lauri for a contract extension.

And so far the Warriors got Melton, Anderson and now Buddy Hield and perhaps they are looking for another missing pieces which is Lauri Markannen in the middle.
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Re: [NBA] Unofficial Discussion Thread
« Reply #521 on: July 07, 2024, 04:41:43 AM »
As for Buddy Hield, they got him already through a sign-and-trade. For me, Hield is one of the most underrated three-point shooters in the league for a long time. If you will talk about three-point shooters, nobody will say "Buddy Hield". Just for context, he's 2nd in most number of three-pointers made since 2017 with 1,924. The first is of course, Steph with 2,154. Now we have a new "Splash Brothers 2.0" in Golden State. They need more guys, so I expect more trades. I would predict more three-point shooters and better defenders. A good three-and-D guy would be a good addition to them.

One thing with Hield is that he is a good defender as well, and him and Curry could be the Splash Brothers, upgraded version. So let's see if they are going to get Lauri Markkanen, another great addition if it materialized as it will be a different Warrior now.
Klay was a great defender as well - before he got injured of course. :D Anyway, this might be an upgraded version of Splash Brothers like you said, but let's see how they will complement each other when they play together. It would be better if they will add more three-point shooters in their team.

As for Markannen, can I ask if he's available for trade? I mean did the Jazz told to the media that they are trading him. He still has 1 year on his contract and after that, he will be an UFA. I would love to see him going to the Warriors, and many are talking about it as well.

They have a new term for Buddy Hield-Steph Curry -> Splash Buddies, hehehe. So let's see this combination and as others have said, everyone is very excited.

For Lauri, yes you are right, he still has a year under the Utah Jazz, but he could be available by August via sign and trade deal that's why his name is on the list not just for the Warriors but other teams are very interested as well. But it might take another team though to be involved if this is going to happen that he will moved to the Warriors + future draft picks and some players.

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Re: [NBA] Unofficial Discussion Thread
« Reply #522 on: July 07, 2024, 06:16:45 PM »
Is any following the  Sacramento Kings ? I think they’re making some really bold moves that’d pit them right back into deep playoffs run contention. First they’ve got Jalen McDaniels from Toronto Raptors who I think is really good two way wing player and would be a great addition to the Kings roster, and now all of sudden they’re trading for veteran DeMar DeRozan, that’s some next level play if you ask me, most especially when they’re not losing any of their current key pieces.
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Re: [NBA] Unofficial Discussion Thread
« Reply #523 on: July 07, 2024, 11:08:34 PM »
~ and now all of sudden they’re trading for veteran DeMar DeRozan, that’s some next level play if you ask me, most especially when they’re not losing any of their current key pieces.
Has DeRozan's trade value dipped that much? I'm not a fan of his playing style but, I mean, he's still a name in the league that can actually do damage to another team. If they can manage to land him with their core intact, that should be a win for them.

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Re: [NBA] Unofficial Discussion Thread
« Reply #524 on: July 08, 2024, 01:33:25 PM »
~ and now all of sudden they’re trading for veteran DeMar DeRozan, that’s some next level play if you ask me, most especially when they’re not losing any of their current key pieces.
Has DeRozan's trade value dipped that much? I'm not a fan of his playing style but, I mean, he's still a name in the league that can actually do damage to another team. If they can manage to land him with their core intact, that should be a win for them.
His performance during the regular season is still the same as how he was when he's on different team. 24 PPG, 4.3 RPG, 5.0 APG during the regular season. Not an all-star stats, but is good for a 3rd option shooter already.

The only problem is the team where he's at during the last few years. DeRozan's value didn't dip if you will ask me, but maybe for some teams, him being on an underachieving team like the Bulls might affected his trade value. Now that he's with a team that has legit superstars, I still believe he will be a big help for the Kings. He will be the 2nd or maybe 1st option when it comes to offense.

 

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