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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2024, 02:58:31 PM »
It is also certain that those who are professionals in trading will experience losses, because there are two possibilities that result from trading, namely profit and loss.
I've also seen on various Telegram channels that Future trading likes to mention that it can get up to hundreds of millions of USD in liquid.
The hundreds of millions of USD that were liquidated were a combination of all the traders, now this is proof that professional traders like them also experienced losses.

Unfortunately, I forgot which Telegram channel provides information about Liquid from future trading, maybe later if I find it I will add the information to this thread.
It is true that even a professional will still have occasional losses in his trading. It's just that they have risk management that they have mastered. So they usually manage their capital with a very mature MM. So when they have a position that is liquidated it is actually only a few percent of their total capital.

So what differentiates pros and beginners is only in terms of experience and discipline. Apart from that it's the same. sometimes they profit and sometimes they lose.

I monitor traders' positions on Binance that are liquidated via this Telegram channel. Maybe the same as yours.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2024, 02:58:31 PM »

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #61 on: January 12, 2024, 09:22:45 PM »
All traders will definitely experience losses, both small amounts and large amounts when they make the wrong decision, but for professional traders it is considered normal, they definitely know how to recover their losses in a short time,
If a ceypto trader had not experienced a loss there would definitely be many traders surviving at this time

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2024, 08:23:21 PM »
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this

No one is 100% perfect, so all traders lose money irrespective of their perfection in trading. The amount to be loss during trading will only differ base on the professionalism of the person that is trading. How a professional trader will lose money to trading is not how a beginner trader will lose. A beginner is at high risk of losing more money than a professional trader especially if they don’t apply caution while trading. Losses and gain are part of the process and everyone will in one way experience both of them while trading.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #63 on: January 14, 2024, 05:26:48 PM »
For me, I will say yes.. anything online trading I think there is no professional or experience traders, please don't get me wrong.
Why I say so is because, anything online trading is not always easy and we can't predict exactly. All we are doing are just assumption and if luck be on our side, we hit on the right spot but why we call some people professional or experience traders is because the more they lose, the more they learn from there mistakes, so beginners will meet them for guidance so that the chance of loosing won't be that high so everyone experience lost whether professionals and beginers.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2024, 10:36:03 PM »
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Loosing funds in trading doesn't  mean you're  not a good trader it's  just that the market went against your prediction  probably  by  unexpected influence on the market, so professionals also loose funds but minimal because they already know how to minimise their loss and that's y TA is really advisable as the Basic start of every  trader and some stages will just come probably from your mistakes making you to learn from it and become a better trader
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #65 on: January 15, 2024, 09:59:32 AM »
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Still, they will definitely experience failure or lose money from trading because cryptocurrency is unpredictable, especially coins that have just been listed on unknown exchanges.
For example, professional traders and newbie traders are the same as the Shapire Diamond, which when split in two still produces the same Shapire Diamond without any changes. This is only my analogy .  ;)
What makes the difference is that the professional trader has long hours of trading and the hustle and bustle of his experience and the newbie trader is just trying to trade in cryptocurrency and that too, perhaps with small capital.
Professional traders usually have a plan to buy coin X using various methods, analysis, fundamentals and the like. Meanwhile, this Newbie trader only relies on his courage to trade Y coins and that too without being based on experience, analysis, fundamentals, etc.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2024, 05:46:40 PM »
There will be nobody who enters into the crypto trading and has never face loss but every person have lost some amount of money whether he is an expert of new commer. Trading is not as easy as people think about it because every minutes there occurs changes in price and Fluctuations are the common part of it, also there is no one who can predict accurately about the market.

Although an expert trader know the strategies to overcome their losses but still there is a chance of losing money at any stage so care is needed for getting your desire profit. To become an expert trader you must have give time to trading and you will loss large sum of money to become an expert but there is no surety that after becoming and expert trader you will Continuously win money but in crypto trading everyone face some loss.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2024, 05:46:40 PM »


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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #67 on: January 15, 2024, 11:59:27 PM »
All traders will definitely experience losses, both small amounts and large amounts when they make the wrong decision, but for professional traders it is considered normal, they definitely know how to recover their losses in a short time
It is very true, every trader probably experiences losses whether it is small or big losses.
Professional traders understand that the losses can't be avoided, it is not the obstacle to succeed in trading. So, they won't give up although they experienced some losses. But for the beginners or newbies, they may feel frustrated when they experience losses. They don't have enough experience to control their emotion. It is very different with professional traders, they can control their emotion very well because they have a lot of experience.


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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #68 on: January 16, 2024, 03:22:42 AM »
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Even those users who have consistently been successful in the trading business and have special experience have lost money at times just because of a small mistake. Many times the experienced people face losses and sometimes those professional traders lose money due to the volatility of the market. Trading is not such that a professional trader will not lose money but even these experienced people face huge losses at times. So trading is a risky activity where at any time you can get high profit, at any time you can face huge loss.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #69 on: January 16, 2024, 08:27:13 PM »
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Even those users who have consistently been successful in the trading business and have special experience have lost money at times just because of a small mistake. Many times the experienced people face losses and sometimes those professional traders lose money due to the volatility of the market. Trading is not such that a professional trader will not lose money but even these experienced people face huge losses at times. So trading is a risky activity where at any time you can get high profit, at any time you can face huge loss.

It is very true, I have noticed myself that sometimes when one makes a mistake in an operation, what one does is cross one's fingers to see if things go in that direction, rarely does that happen, but when it does happen it is I have to be very Patient to see how far the operation holds up, it's expensive I'm talking about futures, and I was wrong about the money I had invested , I couldn't believe I had put so much in, and suddenly I thought I was going to win it at the end, but In 1 second the market went to the other side and I didn't win, that loss hurt me a lot, I don't know if they do futures trading here, but it's really difficult to do an analysis there, because the movies and the The market is sometimes so volatile that sometimes it Seems like she was gambling.

Sometimes before making a move , it is better to do it first in the Play money mode to see the initial behavior because if you lose you don't make Another martingale , since and when I trade with futures I only have 2 martingales.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #70 on: January 17, 2024, 02:51:38 AM »
In terms of trading or investing, I don't think that is a professional or experience traders, don't get me wrong because we all lose money, whether beginners or professional because we all have fear and greed in us which makes us to lose money, Rather the only difference between professional and beginers is that the high rate of loss for the beginers won't be the same with that of the professional so I think professional traders also lose money.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #71 on: January 17, 2024, 08:46:32 AM »
In terms of trading or investing, I don't think that is a professional or experience traders, don't get me wrong because we all lose money, whether beginners or professional because we all have fear and greed in us which makes us to lose money, Rather the only difference between professional and beginers is that the high rate of loss for the beginers won't be the same with that of the professional so I think professional traders also lose money.
So true. Even if several traders have the same insight regarding trading and also have the same experience in trading, they will definitely still have different results. But everyone will experience losses. But the factor that is difficult for all traders to face is managing emotions in trading such as greed and fear. Even a pro might lose control of their emotions sometimes. But the difference is that pros have more mature limits and planning than beginners. And pro traders have insight into when to stop if trading is no longer profitable for them.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #72 on: January 17, 2024, 10:56:27 AM »
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Loosing funds in trading doesn't  mean you're  not a good trader it's  just that the market went against your prediction  probably  by  unexpected influence on the market, so professionals also loose funds but minimal because they already know how to minimise their loss and that's y TA is really advisable as the Basic start of every  trader and some stages will just come probably from your mistakes making you to learn from it and become a better trader

All market players periodically lose money, because the market can be unpredictable and very volatile. Professional traders do not use stop-loss, instead they use hedging to reduce potential risks.
Hedging is a trading strategy that includes opening a position to compensate for possible losses from another position.
This technique helps protect your trades from potential losses, especially in volatile markets. There are different ways to hedge the market, and each has advantages and disadvantages.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #73 on: January 17, 2024, 05:02:36 PM »
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Loosing funds in trading doesn't  mean you're  not a good trader it's  just that the market went against your prediction  probably  by  unexpected influence on the market, so professionals also loose funds but minimal because they already know how to minimise their loss and that's y TA is really advisable as the Basic start of every  trader and some stages will just come probably from your mistakes making you to learn from it and become a better trader

All market players periodically lose money, because the market can be unpredictable and very volatile. Professional traders do not use stop-loss, instead they use hedging to reduce potential risks.
Hedging is a trading strategy that includes opening a position to compensate for possible losses from another position.
This technique helps protect your trades from potential losses, especially in volatile markets. There are different ways to hedge the market, and each has advantages and disadvantages.
What you say means that they leave all positions open? For example, if you are in Long, do you have another open position in shrot but with minimal flattening? Well, that is one of the things that can be done but of course you have to be very careful, usually there are whales that do that for approximately 3 minutes which makes time pass very slowly and the amount of money that comes in from one side is offset. On the other hand, this is something like what Jesse Liverpomore did in that one position was supported by the other.

That is a very risky practice and I think that these things are difficult to risk, the person has to be very well focused, because one wrong move and they can lose a lot of money, it is something that is delicate but very good income is always obtained. And when the person has enough skill to endure the amount of apantes emcones that are formed, on the one hand they lose, and on the other hand they win big, wow, in the end, the sum is done and it remains to see how much they won or lost. .
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #74 on: January 17, 2024, 06:07:37 PM »


Professional traders do not use stop-loss, instead they use hedging to reduce potential risks.
Hedging is a trading strategy that includes opening a position to compensate for possible losses from another position.

Well I never made mention of SL in my comment  but if you  think a professional doesn't use SL then so be it mate ... only to remember that even if they try compensate  then they must be very active  not to miss out since it's  an open trading .Then,  let me add this.. Level  of professionalism may differ in term  of funds
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