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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #465 on: October 11, 2024, 12:47:39 PM »
In my opinion, in trading or investment, there must be profits and losses, it just depends on the individual who manages or administers their funds. In the possibility of a professional in trading or investment, 70% of the profits will be successful and 30% will fail in their investment or trading... the point is, in trading or investment, it depends on the person, how they manage their funds so that they generate large profits.

It should be done responsibly nevertheless and limits should be put in order to avoid risks. They will be minimized, at least, because the market of crypto is volatile, and without the needed expertise and knowledge, you may be feeling more than 30%, which you described.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #466 on: October 11, 2024, 01:01:40 PM »
In my opinion, in trading or investment, there must be profits and losses, it just depends on the individual who manages or administers their funds. In the possibility of a professional in trading or investment, 70% of the profits will be successful and 30% will fail in their investment or trading... the point is, in trading or investment, it depends on the person, how they manage their funds so that they generate large profits.
Lastly, I saw an post or may be on a article that one trader loss his 40k USDT for doing trading in future he was a professional trader and also successful. But the interested think is the trader don't lose hope and he has also the confidence for recover and as well as he also have the skill to know the market movement and yes he make more than 100K after that incident but it is also true that he didn't get recover on the next trade he took time and after that he recover his loss and profit. So professional trader also lose money and they know how to recover them also.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #467 on: October 11, 2024, 04:16:47 PM »
FUD will never be eliminated and we will continue to hear someone giving something that eventually makes the market volatile and eventually goes down. Their target is beginners who end up panicking with the FUD they spread.

We are indeed required to think quickly and accurately, and when something happens then we must be ready with the strategy that we have prepared. The market is unpredictable, so this is what makes trading very risky.
You are right, FUD cannot be eliminated and FUD will always be there, that's why in trading we must always have a good strategy and plan, even though it is very risky and the market is unpredictable but we must be ready for the changes by changing the plan and strategy if there is a change due to FUD.
This is something we need to prepare for, because in the journey there will always be something like this. Even those who spread FUD are not people who don't believe in crypto, but they use this as one of their ways to make a profit.

At first we will also panic when a lot of bad news is spread, but over time we will know the pattern and with the experience we have, we can eliminate the fear of FUD.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #468 on: October 11, 2024, 04:40:43 PM »
This is something we need to prepare for, because in the journey there will always be something like this. Even those who spread FUD are not people who don't believe in crypto, but they use this as one of their ways to make a profit.

At first we will also panic when a lot of bad news is spread, but over time we will know the pattern and with the experience we have, we can eliminate the fear of FUD.
In any market, be it crypto or shares, we are familiar with news manipulation which can have an impact on the market. Market manipulation is not always through fake news but sometimes also by bringing back old news to create panic in the market. That is, old news is spiced up with the addition of reasonable opinion or speculation which makes the reader move according to what the news maker hopes. This may not be a strange thing for professional traders. But for beginners this can be quite risky.

And as experience increases, it is true that we will begin to understand the patterns that occur in the market. Good for covering news or anything related to the market.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #469 on: October 11, 2024, 08:49:11 PM »
This is something we need to prepare for, because in the journey there will always be something like this. Even those who spread FUD are not people who don't believe in crypto, but they use this as one of their ways to make a profit.

At first we will also panic when a lot of bad news is spread, but over time we will know the pattern and with the experience we have, we can eliminate the fear of FUD.
In any market, be it crypto or shares, we are familiar with news manipulation which can have an impact on the market. Market manipulation is not always through fake news but sometimes also by bringing back old news to create panic in the market. That is, old news is spiced up with the addition of reasonable opinion or speculation which makes the reader move according to what the news maker hopes. This may not be a strange thing for professional traders. But for beginners this can be quite risky.

And as experience increases, it is true that we will begin to understand the patterns that occur in the market. Good for covering news or anything related to the market.
Experience will teach us not to panic reading the news, be it good news or old bad news and accompanied by spices that seem reasonable. but we should understand that the FUD spreaders have a plan to manipulate the market, they hope the price will go down to buy or vice versa they hope the price will go up because they want to sell their coins.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #470 on: October 12, 2024, 02:17:45 PM »
This is something we need to prepare for, because in the journey there will always be something like this. Even those who spread FUD are not people who don't believe in crypto, but they use this as one of their ways to make a profit.

At first we will also panic when a lot of bad news is spread, but over time we will know the pattern and with the experience we have, we can eliminate the fear of FUD.
In any market, be it crypto or shares, we are familiar with news manipulation which can have an impact on the market. Market manipulation is not always through fake news but sometimes also by bringing back old news to create panic in the market. That is, old news is spiced up with the addition of reasonable opinion or speculation which makes the reader move according to what the news maker hopes. This may not be a strange thing for professional traders. But for beginners this can be quite risky.

And as experience increases, it is true that we will begin to understand the patterns that occur in the market. Good for covering news or anything related to the market.
This will sharpen our principles, I mean when there is a lot of news that might affect us, then we can find out more deeply and there will be many lessons that we can learn. After all, nothing is really safe.

Actually, this is a very good thing for our mentality, because our mentality will really be tested when facing unwanted situations, one of which is when FUD attacks. I usually see the positive side that can be taken from the events that occur.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #471 on: October 13, 2024, 03:16:11 PM »
This is something we need to prepare for, because in the journey there will always be something like this. Even those who spread FUD are not people who don't believe in crypto, but they use this as one of their ways to make a profit.

At first we will also panic when a lot of bad news is spread, but over time we will know the pattern and with the experience we have, we can eliminate the fear of FUD.
In any market, be it crypto or shares, we are familiar with news manipulation which can have an impact on the market. Market manipulation is not always through fake news but sometimes also by bringing back old news to create panic in the market. That is, old news is spiced up with the addition of reasonable opinion or speculation which makes the reader move according to what the news maker hopes. This may not be a strange thing for professional traders. But for beginners this can be quite risky.

And as experience increases, it is true that we will begin to understand the patterns that occur in the market. Good for covering news or anything related to the market.
Experience will teach us not to panic reading the news, be it good news or old bad news and accompanied by spices that seem reasonable. but we should understand that the FUD spreaders have a plan to manipulate the market, they hope the price will go down to buy or vice versa they hope the price will go up because they want to sell their coins.
Indeed managing news in trading does present some sort of calmness and understanding. Time will show that one should not panic after reading the news, since many players attempt to manipulate the market releasing more of Personalised news coverage and analysis skewed or even outright false information. One must always be careful with what information one takes and act on it; news that seems big should not necessarily be acted on instantly. It is more desirable to devote oneself to balance∕equity calculations and the expected purchase and sale transactions and comprehend the fact that there is always an hidden motive behind every news. Whereas with this method we are calmer and more rational, where we do not make hasty and non-reflective decisions, where we can seize opportunities better.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #472 on: October 13, 2024, 06:51:20 PM »
In my opinion, in trading or investment, there must be profits and losses, it just depends on the individual who manages or administers their funds. In the possibility of a professional in trading or investment, 70% of the profits will be successful and 30% will fail in their investment or trading... the point is, in trading or investment, it depends on the person, how they manage their funds so that they generate large profits.
Lastly, I saw an post or may be on a article that one trader loss his 40k USDT for doing trading in future he was a professional trader and also successful. But the interested think is the trader don't lose hope and he has also the confidence for recover and as well as he also have the skill to know the market movement and yes he make more than 100K after that incident but it is also true that he didn't get recover on the next trade he took time and after that he recover his loss and profit. So professional trader also lose money and they know how to recover them also.
All traders run at loss because of the volatile nature of crypto. A professional trader will run at loss and learn from his mistake to limit his losses next time. Ths difference between a professional trader and an amateur is that he makes more profit than losses making it eaay for him to recover his losses with time. When you open a position and the market goes against you, loss will be next.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #473 on: October 13, 2024, 07:14:32 PM »
All traders run at loss because of the volatile nature of crypto. A professional trader will run at loss and learn from his mistake to limit his losses next time. Ths difference between a professional trader and an amateur is that he makes more profit than losses making it eaay for him to recover his losses with time. When you open a position and the market goes against you, loss will be next.
I doubt with professional trader have ability for predicting suddenly bad news happening, there are not guarantee for professional trader never loss when trading in cryptocurrency. How expert when analyzing with chart but whales easily make bad or good news with potential bitcoin and altcoin price dump or pump in short term.
I think the professional trader have braveness for minimizing with loss by set up stop loss feature, they are understood well when using stop loss feature get large opportunity recovery and earn much profitable after entry with most lower price.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #474 on: October 13, 2024, 10:26:51 PM »
All traders run at loss because of the volatile nature of crypto. A professional trader will run at loss and learn from his mistake to limit his losses next time. Ths difference between a professional trader and an amateur is that he makes more profit than losses making it eaay for him to recover his losses with time. When you open a position and the market goes against you, loss will be next.
One trader at a time will face loss, this is the nature of trading. You should never think that there will be only profit in trading. And since the crypto market is volatile, many traders lose their capital to zero in any trading, but professional traders can easily recover them because they follow the rules of trading. If we ask any professional trader if he has faced loss in his trading life then surely his answer would be yes and from every loss he might have recognized his mistakes and corrected them.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #475 on: October 13, 2024, 11:52:19 PM »
Lastly, I saw an post or may be on a article that one trader loss his 40k USDT for doing trading in future he was a professional trader and also successful. But the interested think is the trader don't lose hope and he has also the confidence for recover and as well as he also have the skill to know the market movement and yes he make more than 100K after that incident but it is also true that he didn't get recover on the next trade he took time and after that he recover his loss and profit. So professional trader also lose money and they know how to recover them also.
Future is very risky, it is like a gambling for me. Even a professional trader can't avoid big losses in future. That's why future is not a place for beginners. Even average traders, it is better to trade in spot if they are not familiar enough with future. If someone knows well future, they could take advantage of the risks. Sure, they can earn above $100k or even more. However, it can be done by professional or experienced traders only.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #476 on: October 14, 2024, 10:48:08 AM »
Lastly, I saw an post or may be on a article that one trader loss his 40k USDT for doing trading in future he was a professional trader and also successful. But the interested think is the trader don't lose hope and he has also the confidence for recover and as well as he also have the skill to know the market movement and yes he make more than 100K after that incident but it is also true that he didn't get recover on the next trade he took time and after that he recover his loss and profit. So professional trader also lose money and they know how to recover them also.
Future is very risky, it is like a gambling for me. Even a professional trader can't avoid big losses in future. That's why future is not a place for beginners. Even average traders, it is better to trade in spot if they are not familiar enough with future. If someone knows well future, they could take advantage of the risks. Sure, they can earn above $100k or even more. However, it can be done by professional or experienced traders only.

Yeah, I do agree with you, futures can be quite risky, as the rewards they provide can be lucrative too, however, without some patience, knowledge, and responsibility, you wouldn't be able to utilize them due to how they punish those who think they know the market. Also, smart money flows in quite unexpected ways sometimes ;D

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #477 on: October 14, 2024, 03:22:45 PM »
Lastly, I saw an post or may be on a article that one trader loss his 40k USDT for doing trading in future he was a professional trader and also successful. But the interested think is the trader don't lose hope and he has also the confidence for recover and as well as he also have the skill to know the market movement and yes he make more than 100K after that incident but it is also true that he didn't get recover on the next trade he took time and after that he recover his loss and profit. So professional trader also lose money and they know how to recover them also.
so true. In fact, I have also seen several Twitter posts and a live trading video that shows the trading activities of a professional and influencer who is scalping the future market. And at that time he found his position liquidated. And the losses he experienced were really big. Probably close to $100k USD. But he didn't give up and maybe because the capital he had was much larger. So losing in his previous position didn't seem to disturb his mentality at all. And he took another position and managed to recover his losses by taking advantage of the momentum of the market reversal. And this seems to show that even professional traders sometimes experience big losses. The only difference is that the capital they put in may only be a few percent of their total capital. So that losing in one position does not make them waver and give up, because they have managed their risks well.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #478 on: October 14, 2024, 03:36:39 PM »
Lastly, I saw an post or may be on a article that one trader loss his 40k USDT for doing trading in future he was a professional trader and also successful. But the interested think is the trader don't lose hope and he has also the confidence for recover and as well as he also have the skill to know the market movement and yes he make more than 100K after that incident but it is also true that he didn't get recover on the next trade he took time and after that he recover his loss and profit. So professional trader also lose money and they know how to recover them also.
so true. In fact, I have also seen several Twitter posts and a live trading video that shows the trading activities of a professional and influencer who is scalping the future market. And at that time he found his position liquidated. And the losses he experienced were really big. Probably close to $100k USD. But he didn't give up and maybe because the capital he had was much larger. So losing in his previous position didn't seem to disturb his mentality at all. And he took another position and managed to recover his losses by taking advantage of the momentum of the market reversal. And this seems to show that even professional traders sometimes experience big losses. The only difference is that the capital they put in may only be a few percent of their total capital. So that losing in one position does not make them waver and give up, because they have managed their risks well.

He is an influencer for a reason ;D He probably gets paid for many things besides trading, so he can play and work with such positions on the market. Ordinary people, however, are not so lucky - so it's wonderful if the trading is done responsibly. Otherwise, it may end up in losses, and they won't be recovered as easily as in your example.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #479 on: October 16, 2024, 11:50:16 AM »
Lastly, I saw an post or may be on a article that one trader loss his 40k USDT for doing trading in future he was a professional trader and also successful. But the interested think is the trader don't lose hope and he has also the confidence for recover and as well as he also have the skill to know the market movement and yes he make more than 100K after that incident but it is also true that he didn't get recover on the next trade he took time and after that he recover his loss and profit. So professional trader also lose money and they know how to recover them also.
so true. In fact, I have also seen several Twitter posts and a live trading video that shows the trading activities of a professional and influencer who is scalping the future market. And at that time he found his position liquidated. And the losses he experienced were really big. Probably close to $100k USD. But he didn't give up and maybe because the capital he had was much larger. So losing in his previous position didn't seem to disturb his mentality at all. And he took another position and managed to recover his losses by taking advantage of the momentum of the market reversal. And this seems to show that even professional traders sometimes experience big losses. The only difference is that the capital they put in may only be a few percent of their total capital. So that losing in one position does not make them waver and give up, because they have managed their risks well.
Over years of trading, one observes these professional traders lose billions of dollars and yet are up and trading again; it was education enough, observing strategies and risk management deals with. The approach which can be executed is to put a ceiling under the capital part that is exposed to a given trade. This is to ensure that at some point if a loss has been realized the trader still has enough capital to take a new position and minimizing on the emotional strain. In this way they can remain cool and begin searching for more opportunities in the market after they have just lost one.

Also, the trader should have a trading strategy in which they have set soldier limit and profit rate. This step eliminates the chances of the firm making hasty decisions and every action taken is as a result of the best analysis made. There are also personal positives for traders to consider, such as being able to develop this skill set for analysts to read the market and the momentum and to take it over, essence traders has to accept that fact that losses do occur in trading occasionally. It means that even if, for example, market fluctuations resulted in a trader’s loss, he or she is capable of seeking salvation and bring back their position and mess in the black.
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