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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #480 on: October 16, 2024, 09:23:58 PM »
so true. In fact, I have also seen several Twitter posts and a live trading video that shows the trading activities of a professional and influencer who is scalping the future market. And at that time he found his position liquidated. And the losses he experienced were really big. Probably close to $100k USD. But he didn't give up and maybe because the capital he had was much larger. So losing in his previous position didn't seem to disturb his mentality at all. And he took another position and managed to recover his losses by taking advantage of the momentum of the market reversal. And this seems to show that even professional traders sometimes experience big losses. The only difference is that the capital they put in may only be a few percent of their total capital. So that losing in one position does not make them waver and give up, because they have managed their risks well.
Actually, the mentality of a professional skill full trader should be such that both profit and loss can not have a big effect on him by which he will start emotional trading.
And the difference between a professional trader and an as usual normal trader is that we get more excited with a small profit and on the other hand we get disappointed with a small loss. And that is the biggest mistake in trading most of all us doing. There will be losses in trading now we have to understand why we faced those losses and how we can recover from there.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #481 on: October 17, 2024, 12:05:36 AM »
so true. In fact, I have also seen several Twitter posts and a live trading video that shows the trading activities of a professional and influencer who is scalping the future market. And at that time he found his position liquidated. And the losses he experienced were really big. Probably close to $100k USD. But he didn't give up and maybe because the capital he had was much larger. So losing in his previous position didn't seem to disturb his mentality at all. And he took another position and managed to recover his losses by taking advantage of the momentum of the market reversal. And this seems to show that even professional traders sometimes experience big losses. The only difference is that the capital they put in may only be a few percent of their total capital. So that losing in one position does not make them waver and give up, because they have managed their risks well.
Actually, the mentality of a professional skill full trader should be such that both profit and loss can not have a big effect on him by which he will start emotional trading.
And the difference between a professional trader and an as usual normal trader is that we get more excited with a small profit and on the other hand we get disappointed with a small loss. And that is the biggest mistake in trading most of all us doing. There will be losses in trading now we have to understand why we faced those losses and how we can recover from there.

There is a lot of difference between the mentality of a professional trader and an ordinary trader. Because of the skill of a professional trader, he will never take any wrong decision to get into trouble, but it is very important to be careful.I am very appalled by the condition of some traders because they invest on the spur of the moment decision, they never think about whether they will get profit after investing.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #482 on: October 17, 2024, 08:58:45 AM »
so true. In fact, I have also seen several Twitter posts and a live trading video that shows the trading activities of a professional and influencer who is scalping the future market. And at that time he found his position liquidated. And the losses he experienced were really big. Probably close to $100k USD. But he didn't give up and maybe because the capital he had was much larger. So losing in his previous position didn't seem to disturb his mentality at all. And he took another position and managed to recover his losses by taking advantage of the momentum of the market reversal. And this seems to show that even professional traders sometimes experience big losses. The only difference is that the capital they put in may only be a few percent of their total capital. So that losing in one position does not make them waver and give up, because they have managed their risks well.
Actually, the mentality of a professional skill full trader should be such that both profit and loss can not have a big effect on him by which he will start emotional trading.
And the difference between a professional trader and an as usual normal trader is that we get more excited with a small profit and on the other hand we get disappointed with a small loss. And that is the biggest mistake in trading most of all us doing. There will be losses in trading now we have to understand why we faced those losses and how we can recover from there.

There is a lot of difference between the mentality of a professional trader and an ordinary trader. Because of the skill of a professional trader, he will never take any wrong decision to get into trouble, but it is very important to be careful.I am very appalled by the condition of some traders because they invest on the spur of the moment decision, they never think about whether they will get profit after investing.
Of course the mentality of a professional trader with the mentality of a trader can be different, because to become a professional trader it takes a long time to have knowledge, experience and skills. Because a professional trader in making decisions must have good considerations and analysis when compared to ordinary traders will be very different, especially usually professional traders also have good intuition.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #483 on: October 17, 2024, 08:02:38 PM »
Of course the mentality of a professional trader with the mentality of a trader can be different, because to become a professional trader it takes a long time to have knowledge, experience and skills. Because a professional trader in making decisions must have good considerations and analysis when compared to ordinary traders will be very different, especially usually professional traders also have good intuition.
One of the usual issues that affect beginners most prominently is when they cannot keep their emotions to themselves and they are undisciplined when it comes to sticking to a plan. Most traders end up making wrong choices since they base most of their actions on highly volatile markets and end up making a loss. This means that they are capable of taking unmeSPAM BANble risks in as a consequence of which they are bound to experience even higher levels of loss than before. Insufficient fundamental analysis knowledge is also usually a problem, which means that trades do not rely on practical knowledge but on opinion or intuition.

Also in order to avoid this kind of situation traders should develop a habit of daily learning from technical and fundamental analysis an effective risk management. Someday traders develop enough experience so that they can master their feelings and use various approaches to trade which eventually we find a way to always make a profit and keep calm.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #484 on: October 17, 2024, 09:36:28 PM »
Anyone can lose, we don't have to insist on believing whether lost is meant for a particular set of people or not, we all can make profits trading same way we make loses, this is not about being a professional in it, sometimes our prediction can just be off the radar and the indications we are using may not be as accurate as we have thoughts on them, we should only limit the way we are taking risk on trading if we cant afford for losing our asset.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #485 on: October 18, 2024, 11:14:30 PM »
Anyone can lose, we don't have to insist on believing whether lost is meant for a particular set of people or not, we all can make profits trading same way we make loses, this is not about being a professional in it, sometimes our prediction can just be off the radar and the indications we are using may not be as accurate as we have thoughts on them, we should only limit the way we are taking risk on trading if we cant afford for losing our asset.
Indeed. Everyone can lose, but not everyone can get profits. This is the reality.  :D
Both professional or newbies can get losses because sometimes the market can be unpredictable. Our prediction can be wrong, there is no guarantee of our prediction. Moreover we are just average traders, the chance to be wrong is quite high. That's why it is impossible that we always get profits. Sure, we must always do analysis and apply proper strategy in trading, but it doesn't remove totally the chance of getting losses.


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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #486 on: October 22, 2024, 06:18:08 PM »
Anyone can lose, we don't have to insist on believing whether lost is meant for a particular set of people or not, we all can make profits trading same way we make loses, this is not about being a professional in it, sometimes our prediction can just be off the radar and the indications we are using may not be as accurate as we have thoughts on them, we should only limit the way we are taking risk on trading if we cant afford for losing our asset.
Indeed. Everyone can lose, but not everyone can get profits. This is the reality.  :D
Both professional or newbies can get losses because sometimes the market can be unpredictable. Our prediction can be wrong, there is no guarantee of our prediction. Moreover we are just average traders, the chance to be wrong is quite high. That's why it is impossible that we always get profits. Sure, we must always do analysis and apply proper strategy in trading, but it doesn't remove totally the chance of getting losses.
In trading it is an undeniable fact that losses can be belonged to both the professional and the beginner traders. It does mean however that the often unpredictable market does make us face uncertainty, even if we are dealing with what can be best described as mature predictions. For being ordinary traders mistakes are always possible and this makes us realize that profits cannot always be made. Even when the analysis is good and the best strategy is implemented, it does not totally shield that we will not record losses. The children should realize that it is possible to learn from our successes and failures and keep on growing.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #487 on: October 26, 2024, 10:09:35 PM »
In trading it is an undeniable fact that losses can be belonged to both the professional and the beginner traders. It does mean however that the often unpredictable market does make us face uncertainty, even if we are dealing with what can be best described as mature predictions. For being ordinary traders mistakes are always possible and this makes us realize that profits cannot always be made. Even when the analysis is good and the best strategy is implemented, it does not totally shield that we will not record losses.
Indeed. In trading, it is possible to get losses, whether we are average traders or professional traders. Sometimes we can't avoid the losses when the market condition isn't very good. Crypto market trend can change drastically in a short time. In the extreme situation, we have no choice, we can't do anything to avoid losses. But we can do a preventive way by using stop-losses. So, even if we get losses, we don't get too severe losses.


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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #488 on: October 26, 2024, 10:36:56 PM »
In trading it is an undeniable fact that losses can be belonged to both the professional and the beginner traders. It does mean however that the often unpredictable market does make us face uncertainty, even if we are dealing with what can be best described as mature predictions. For being ordinary traders mistakes are always possible and this makes us realize that profits cannot always be made. Even when the analysis is good and the best strategy is implemented, it does not totally shield that we will not record losses.
Indeed. In trading, it is possible to get losses, whether we are average traders or professional traders. Sometimes we can't avoid the losses when the market condition isn't very good. Crypto market trend can change drastically in a short time. In the extreme situation, we have no choice, we can't do anything to avoid losses. But we can do a preventive way by using stop-losses. So, even if we get losses, we don't get too severe losses.
Even though they are professional traders, they have also experienced losses in trading. because as you said the crypto market is very volatile sometimes our analysis and predictions do not match the market that suddenly changes or experiences corrections.
advice from professional traders we must always use risk management so that our profits are greater than the losses we suffer.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #489 on: October 27, 2024, 05:41:06 AM »
In trading it is an undeniable fact that losses can be belonged to both the professional and the beginner traders. It does mean however that the often unpredictable market does make us face uncertainty, even if we are dealing with what can be best described as mature predictions. For being ordinary traders mistakes are always possible and this makes us realize that profits cannot always be made. Even when the analysis is good and the best strategy is implemented, it does not totally shield that we will not record losses.
Indeed. In trading, it is possible to get losses, whether we are average traders or professional traders. Sometimes we can't avoid the losses when the market condition isn't very good. Crypto market trend can change drastically in a short time. In the extreme situation, we have no choice, we can't do anything to avoid losses. But we can do a preventive way by using stop-losses. So, even if we get losses, we don't get too severe losses.
Even though they are professional traders, they have also experienced losses in trading. because as you said the crypto market is very volatile sometimes our analysis and predictions do not match the market that suddenly changes or experiences corrections.
advice from professional traders we must always use risk management so that our profits are greater than the losses we suffer.
Like everyone else, professional traders also have a losing streak here; but this is part of the endeavour in this unpredictable field of trading. It is important to understand that theory will not always keep pace with the dynamism of the market place. That is why, proper management of risks that threaten our business is critical for the achievement of the goal that implies making more profits than losses. Thus, we are in a position to address market challenges and safeguard invested funds to the greatest extent possible.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #490 on: October 29, 2024, 01:01:26 AM »
In trading it is an undeniable fact that losses can be belonged to both the professional and the beginner traders. It does mean however that the often unpredictable market does make us face uncertainty, even if we are dealing with what can be best described as mature predictions. For being ordinary traders mistakes are always possible and this makes us realize that profits cannot always be made. Even when the analysis is good and the best strategy is implemented, it does not totally shield that we will not record losses.
Indeed. In trading, it is possible to get losses, whether we are average traders or professional traders. Sometimes we can't avoid the losses when the market condition isn't very good. Crypto market trend can change drastically in a short time. In the extreme situation, we have no choice, we can't do anything to avoid losses. But we can do a preventive way by using stop-losses. So, even if we get losses, we don't get too severe losses.
You are right in our development, we don't always win but will suffer defeat too. And your suggestions also I agree that we always make the right analysis and strategy and this can only be trained by always learning and practicing our skills in order to be able to become a professional trader.
Even though it is very difficult, but at least we must always learn.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #491 on: October 29, 2024, 04:48:12 AM »
advice from professional traders we must always use risk management so that our profits are greater than the losses we suffer.
It is indeed important, and to learn it can not be done suddenly ... it takes many stages to be able to truly understand risk management ... I think with more experience, it will make you have a better feeling ...

One important thing is also, having a mentor ... risk management still needs direction so as not to waste too much time. learning it is still difficult for a beginner who does not have a mentor or professional teacher.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #492 on: October 29, 2024, 09:48:54 AM »
so true. In fact, I have also seen several Twitter posts and a live trading video that shows the trading activities of a professional and influencer who is scalping the future market. And at that time he found his position liquidated. And the losses he experienced were really big. Probably close to $100k USD. But he didn't give up and maybe because the capital he had was much larger. So losing in his previous position didn't seem to disturb his mentality at all. And he took another position and managed to recover his losses by taking advantage of the momentum of the market reversal. And this seems to show that even professional traders sometimes experience big losses. The only difference is that the capital they put in may only be a few percent of their total capital. So that losing in one position does not make them waver and give up, because they have managed their risks well.
Actually, the mentality of a professional skill full trader should be such that both profit and loss can not have a big effect on him by which he will start emotional trading.
And the difference between a professional trader and an as usual normal trader is that we get more excited with a small profit and on the other hand we get disappointed with a small loss. And that is the biggest mistake in trading most of all us doing. There will be losses in trading now we have to understand why we faced those losses and how we can recover from there.
Well maybe that's the difference. But basically the job of a professional trader whose services are hired by a large company or institution also has greater pressure than an ordinary professional trader who trades for himself. It's just that professional traders working for large companies usually benefit from having a lot of important information available early. because they have a special team for analysis. different from us who carry out independent analysis and also have limited capital. So it is normal for us to feel depressed even when we experience small losses.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #493 on: October 29, 2024, 02:14:03 PM »
advice from professional traders we must always use risk management so that our profits are greater than the losses we suffer.
It is indeed important, and to learn it can not be done suddenly ... it takes many stages to be able to truly understand risk management ... I think with more experience, it will make you have a better feeling ...

One important thing is also, having a mentor ... risk management still needs direction so as not to waste too much time. learning it is still difficult for a beginner who does not have a mentor or professional teacher.

Where would you find such a person to begin with?
I would say it would be pretty hard to do so..

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #494 on: October 29, 2024, 02:19:56 PM »
There is a lot of difference between the mentality of a professional trader and an ordinary trader. Because of the skill of a professional trader, he will never take any wrong decision to get into trouble, but it is very important to be careful.I am very appalled by the condition of some traders because they invest on the spur of the moment decision, they never think about whether they will get profit after investing.

Just because you are professional trader doesn't mean you are way above mistake. The crypto market isn't waht you control and everything that happen around it is all speculations driven and you may be wrong or maybe right but your consistency in it make you become an expert in many things about it but that doesn't makes you immune to mistakes.

I have followed some professional traders with good trading records and they make decisions that are very bad. I don't take their trades but just to test their ability, I do follow some of their trades and it turn out to be the worst technical analysis and sometimes, the market goes against then whenever they think they are smart.
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