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[babo]

Well, we can sympathize with governments because fiat currency is still the best option they have to manage the economy. Crypto can be very good in fighting inflation but implementing crypto on a national scale can come with many risks and governments are not yet ready to experiment. I don't think the government wants to track everything, they're just looking for ways to attribute negative and dangerous characteristics to crypto, especially BTC, such as being widely used for money laundering purposes. Mixers are just one target they are aiming at, they don't want to make transaction data transparent, they just want people to have a negative attitude towards BTC.

From a positive perspective, I also hope that the government will find a way to manage the crypto market, thereby helping crypto to become more widely accepted, mature, and Mixers will be allowed to operate legally when they can support governments in preventing money laundering. That's just my expectation, I don't have any feasible solutions for this yet.

a government, whatever it is, cannot have sympathy for cryptocurrencies
and I'll also explain why, if you don't own the currency you can't play the economic games that allow you (see USA) to print money as and when you like, and temporarily creating opportunities (for example financing wars)

these games then pay in the long run and the people pay for them with a loss of economic power

[Z-tight]

Crypto can be very good in fighting inflation but implementing crypto on a national scale can come with many risks and governments are not yet ready to experiment.

Nobody is talking about this, we are not discussing about crypto replacing fiat, but rather the governments attack on BTC privacy solutions.

From a positive perspective, I also hope that the government will find a way to manage the crypto market, thereby helping crypto to become more widely accepted, mature, and Mixers will be allowed to operate legally when they can support governments in preventing money laundering.

We don't need the government to 'manage' a decentralized network like BTC, that is simply not possible. Take note as well that if the government and mixers work together, that would defeat the purpose as to why people use mixers. Mixers aren't supposed to look into the history of your utxo or its origin for money laundering traces, nor to provide selective privacy, and so what you propose would never happen.

[dkbit98]

Well, we can sympathize with governments because fiat currency is still the best option they have to manage the economy. Crypto can be very good in fighting inflation but implementing crypto on a national scale can come with many risks and governments are not yet ready to experiment.

But they are ready to experiment with CBDC crap and medical experiments 
They are creating inflation so they dare not going to fight against it.

I don't think the government wants to track everything

You must be blind for saying this, or you live in some parallel universe.
Look around and you will see they are already tracking most they can and they are always increasing citizen surveillance.

Mixers will be allowed to operate legally when they can support governments in preventing money laundering.

You are delusional and this is never going to happen, but keep on dreaming fantasy.
Mixers are never going to be accepted by government for obvious reasons, except in case if they run and control it, and that is worse.

[MrSpasybo]

a government, whatever it is, cannot have sympathy for cryptocurrencies
and I'll also explain why, if you don't own the currency you can't play the economic games that allow you (see USA) to print money as and when you like, and temporarily creating opportunities (for example financing wars)

these games then pay in the long run and the people pay for them with a loss of economic power

Yeah, we all understand this. Governments want the economy to develop in the best, safest, and most beneficial way for everyone, so they will continue to use fiat as an effective and simple tool. Of course, we all know that governments are not succeeding in that goal, waste and inefficiency of public investment + corruption + power struggles are making the economy worse, inflation is rising rapidly and is beyond the control of governments. Even the US government has a huge debt of over $30T, their interest payments are even bigger than their military spending. We are seeing unsustainable economic development globally, I believe governments also realize this but they have not yet found an effective solution. They are still on the side of fiat and looking for ways to attack the crypto market through proposals related to Mixers.

There are many conspiracy theories out there, but I think we should focus on solutions. We think that BTC and crypto were the solution because they were not controlled by governments, but I still can't imagine a world after BTC is used to replace fiat globally. Will there be any difference from the gold standard period? I'm not sure about anything, for me crypto is still just an experiment and Mixers are an important part of that experiment: it protects anonymity but is also a target for government attacks.

[Findingnemo]

a government, whatever it is, cannot have sympathy for cryptocurrencies
and I'll also explain why, if you don't own the currency you can't play the economic games that allow you (see USA) to print money as and when you like, and temporarily creating opportunities (for example financing wars)

these games then pay in the long run and the people pay for them with a loss of economic power

Yeah, we all understand this. Governments want the economy to develop in the best, safest, and most beneficial way for everyone, so they will continue to use fiat as an effective and simple tool. Of course, we all know that governments are not succeeding in that goal, waste and inefficiency of public investment + corruption + power struggles are making the economy worse, inflation is rising rapidly and is beyond the control of governments. Even the US government has a huge debt of over $30T, their interest payments are even bigger than their military spending. We are seeing unsustainable economic development globally, I believe governments also realize this but they have not yet found an effective solution. They are still on the side of fiat and looking for ways to attack the crypto market through proposals related to Mixers.

There are many conspiracy theories out there, but I think we should focus on solutions. We think that BTC and crypto were the solution because they were not controlled by governments, but I still can't imagine a world after BTC is used to replace fiat globally. Will there be any difference from the gold standard period? I'm not sure about anything, for me crypto is still just an experiment and Mixers are an important part of that experiment: it protects anonymity but is also a target for government attacks.

Government doesn't give anything about the decline in the economy, they just want to hold the authority and especially when it comes to money cause that's the root cause of everything so they see BTC and the decentralisation is against their policy or they have been manipulated by their rich friends who uses the political leaders as puppet doesn't want decentralisation so they are throwing everything to make it bad from the majority even if it requires lying and that's what they have been telling this all the times, crypto is used for laundering.

Which is partly true because there are reports that cryptos isn't even used 5% by the launderes so it means they should go after fiat and banking to restrict the 95% laundering but why they are just focusing on the 5% and imposing too much restrictions raise suspicion.

[Etranger]

Government doesn't give anything about the decline in the economy, they just want to hold the authority and especially when it comes to money cause that's the root cause of everything so they see BTC and the decentralisation is against their policy or they have been manipulated by their rich friends who uses the political leaders as puppet doesn't want decentralisation so they are throwing everything to make it bad from the majority even if it requires lying and that's what they have been telling this all the times, crypto is used for laundering.

Which is partly true because there are reports that cryptos isn't even used 5% by the launderes so it means they should go after fiat and banking to restrict the 95% laundering but why they are just focusing on the 5% and imposing too much restrictions raise suspicion.

They focus on cryptocurrencies because they need to find a scapegoat to blame for everything bad, be it terrorism, money laundering and the like. They cannot devote their strength to fighting against what is actually used for these purposes, namely cash fiat, because they themselves use such methods, and it is simply unprofitable for them. And by pursuing cryptocurrency, they can also squeeze it out of the owners, so in any case they end up winning.

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This discussion has gone too wide, considering that it is an announcement thread of the Mixtum service 

Interesting fact.
I found this first Mixtum post on Reddit, back on August 26, 2018, is that the day they started? A day later (August 27) they also opened a thread on Btt. Are we having our sixth anniversary soon?

[Lucius]

Interesting fact.
I found this first Mixtum post on Reddit, back on August 26, 2018, is that the day they started? A day later (August 27) they also opened a thread on Btt. Are we having our sixth anniversary soon?

It seems so, the years pass very quickly and before you turn around, you already have a business that has gained the reputation of one of the longest-running mixers in history. I hope that they will be able to celebrate their tenth anniversary as well, which would really be a great success.

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It seems so, the years pass very quickly and before you turn around, you already have a business that has gained the reputation of one of the longest-running mixers in history. I hope that they will be able to celebrate their tenth anniversary as well, which would really be a great success.

ten years of life for a mixer is as long as a century, who knows, maybe we'll all see it together 

[paid2]

The second round of MixTum.io's Free Raffles is now launched! Everyone is welcome to join ; and to try to win the $45 prize!  Good luck to all of you

[FREE RAFFLE] 🛡️ MixTum.io - 🛡️ Prize $45 in BTC - Round #2

[babo]

thank you so much, a very nice thing that adds playfulness to the forum

because I'm so engaged with these things, I studied team building well in depth, and to build a team or a community it is necessary to try to unite, perhaps with the game (I studied with Lego) people

it works

[Z-tight]

The second round of MixTum.io's Free Raffles is now launched! Everyone is welcome to join ; and to try to win the $45 prize!  Good luck to all of you

I was unable to join round 1, but i have joined in round 2. Great thing that round 1 was a success and congratulations to the winner. Thank you to MixTum for organizing these free raffles for the community. Goodluck to everyone who joins.

[babo]

The second round of MixTum.io's Free Raffles is now launched! Everyone is welcome to join ; and to try to win the $45 prize!  Good luck to all of you

I was unable to join round 1, but i have joined in round 2. Great thing that round 1 was a success and congratulations to the winner. Thank you to MixTum for organizing these free raffles for the community. Goodluck to everyone who joins.

as I said it is very important to participate
1 - sponsors see that the forum is alive, and this gives a huge hand to managers
2 - by participating we don't play together we get to know each other, laugh, joke and create community

these two things do a lot of team building and are good for the forum

so participate, everyone!! we have to finish the raffle spots in 3 days

[Etranger]

so participate, everyone!! we have to finish the raffle spots in 3 days

I believe that is more than possible. After all, participation is free and everyone can try their luck. It is great that MixTum organise such ruffles, it is fun for everyone and it motivates to learn more about the mixer itself. I am certain that MixTum team is very active and they contribute not only to their project, but to the forum and forum community, development of which is of a high importance.

[babo]

so participate, everyone!! we have to finish the raffle spots in 3 days

I believe that is more than possible. After all, participation is free and everyone can try their luck. It is great that MixTum organise such ruffles, it is fun for everyone and it motivates to learn more about the mixer itself. I am certain that MixTum team is very active and they contribute not only to their project, but to the forum and forum community, development of which is of a high importance.

but it is useful for mixtum, I mean yes they need to advertise
but it is also useful to make people understand that the forum is alive and well and there are many people who participate
for this reason "I was happy" if the posts ran out immediately
it means the forum is frequented and alive