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[Forsyth Jones]

Very correct it can be shipped into your country and for sure it works anywhere, the only question arises surrounding their durability in terms of long-term services and not running into any issues especially since this card is issued by a mixer which has a history of getting climb down by the authority at any time.

Wait, customs won't know the contents of the box, right? Unless the sender specify exactly a plastic card related to BTC or Mixer in the contents declaration, which I don't think will be the case. Just have as little information as possible, like a decorative item card, so as not to draw attention, as if you were importing some small decorative artifact.

In any case, if it's a country that has certain restrictions on the use of BTC (although I don't think a customs agent would stop the product for a simple card, and what are the chances that he would know that it's a mixer?) you can make an agreement with the MixTum team to include some description in the contents declaration that doesn't draw attention.

[DYING_S0UL]

Very correct it can be shipped into your country and for sure it works anywhere, the only question arises surrounding their durability in terms of long-term services and not running into any issues especially since this card is issued by a mixer which has a history of getting climb down by the authority at any time.

Wait, customs won't know the contents of the box, right? Unless the sender specify exactly a plastic card related to BTC or Mixer in the contents declaration, which I don't think will be the case. Just have as little information as possible, like a decorative item card, so as not to draw attention, as if you were importing some small decorative artifact.

In any case, if it's a country that has certain restrictions on the use of BTC (although I don't think a customs agent would stop the product for a simple card, and what are the chances that he would know that it's a mixer?) you can make an agreement with the MixTum team to include some description in the contents declaration that doesn't draw attention.

Not sure, I'm still skeptical about what you said. Even if we assume they won't know the content, they will likely get suspicious after seeing the sender's info. I don't know about other places, but the custom officers in my country are filled with corruption. They always try to check who is sending what! I've always wanted to order a hardware wallet from abroad but never did because of this issue. Cryptocurrency is banned here, but hardware wallets certainly aren't.

There have been many incidents where customs officers have illegally seized passengers belongings. For example, as per the rules, we are allowed to bring two phones tax free. I saw a video where they seized the passengers phones (he brought 2). They gave him the cheaper one but took the expensive one (an iPhone)

[Hamza2424]

Not sure, I'm still skeptical about what you said. Even if we assume they won't know the content, they will likely get suspicious after seeing the sender's info. I don't know about other places, but the custom officers in my country are filled with corruption. They always try to check who is sending what! I've always wanted to order a hardware wallet from abroad but never did because of this issue. Cryptocurrency is banned here, but hardware wallets certainly aren't.

There have been many incidents where customs officers have illegally seized passengers belongings. For example, as per the rules, we are allowed to bring two phones tax free. I saw a video where they seized the passengers phones (he brought 2). They gave him the cheaper one but took the expensive one (an iPhone)

Hey Mixtum community!

That phone story is quite weird, but you can still create your own cold storage. It is not similar to a hardware wallet, but it functions quite similarly.

You can convert your old smartphone or any new Android phone into a cold storage, let me know your country if you are from the same region as mine maybe you will be able to understand urdu, and I can forward you the exact details here in this post in an edit.

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The card shouldn't be compared to a soft or hw or used as such. It's merely a decorative item, where we can send funds to the address printed on the card.

It isn't for depositing life-long amounts, it's just something symbolic, importing it to your wallet in a secure and offline manner, preferably in a bitcoin core wallet, since the key is imported into the keystore and whenever you use the card address to receive funds, you will also receive it in your bitcoin core wallet if the card address/key is imported there.

If I were given one of these collector's items, I would use it this way.

BTC address and private key printed on card. Ideally, it is assumed to be the only copy. Isn't that a wallet? Isn't it more of a wallet than any exchange (exchanges, which many consider as a wallet)?
Isn't even such an option much safer than many exchanges that have been hacked and the countless number of cases where users have lost money because they kept their assets on an unreliable service

btw. I'm not saying that such a card is ideal and that life savings should be encouraged on it, but it is certainly no less reliable than most online services.

[NotATether]

Not sure, I'm still skeptical about what you said. Even if we assume they won't know the content, they will likely get suspicious after seeing the sender's info. I don't know about other places, but the custom officers in my country are filled with corruption. They always try to check who is sending what! I've always wanted to order a hardware wallet from abroad but never did because of this issue. Cryptocurrency is banned here, but hardware wallets certainly aren't.

There have been many incidents where customs officers have illegally seized passengers belongings. For example, as per the rules, we are allowed to bring two phones tax free. I saw a video where they seized the passengers phones (he brought 2). They gave him the cheaper one but took the expensive one (an iPhone)

That's ridiculous and frankly that makes me upset.

Imagine traveling somewhere and getting harassed by customs over electronics. Over cash I understand, and there are laws about this, and even hardware wallets to some extent, but arbitrary other possessions that aren't even monetary in nature should be left alone.

[DYING_S0UL]

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That's ridiculous and frankly that makes me upset.

Imagine traveling somewhere and getting harassed by customs over electronics. Over cash I understand, and there are laws about this, and even hardware wallets to some extent, but arbitrary other possessions that aren't even monetary in nature should be left alone.

I know it may sound ridiculous, and and somewhat unbelievable but it's the truth. Just look at this video, though you won't understood what he is shouting about. He is giving the customs officers open challenge if they can find any illegal things, take the necessary steps according to the law. But why would they took his phone. He is allowed to carry two phones. He is shouting because they took one of his phones, the expensive one. He is calling them thief and many names. These corrupt officers target these people and try to squeeze money out of them..

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/165dzZjPtn/

In fact I have won raffle like this multiple times! And every time I gave it away to Gazeta from Btt (you know whom I'm talking about). The last one I won was the time capsule from Krogoth! I didn't wanna take the risk or the pain, again gave it away!

You can convert your old smartphone or any new Android phone into a cold storage, let me know your country if you are from the same region as mine maybe you will be able to understand urdu, and I can forward you the exact details here in this post in an edit.

I do understand a little bit of urdu but not very fluent, as I am from Bangladesh! English is fine by me, btw! If you want, send me a PM of the details!

[Forsyth Jones]

Not sure, I'm still skeptical about what you said. Even if we assume they won't know the content, they will likely get suspicious after seeing the sender's info. I don't know about other places, but the custom officers in my country are filled with corruption. They always try to check who is sending what! I've always wanted to order a hardware wallet from abroad but never did because of this issue. Cryptocurrency is banned here, but hardware wallets certainly aren't.

There have been many incidents where customs officers have illegally seized passengers belongings. For example, as per the rules, we are allowed to bring two phones tax free. I saw a video where they seized the passengers phones (he brought 2). They gave him the cheaper one but took the expensive one (an iPhone)

Well, I've worked with ecommerce and I know that a well packaged product with a discreet description of its contents usually passes as one of the hundreds of boxes that arrive every day. That doesn't guarantee it won't be inspected, but it helps avoid drawing attention during customs screening. 

Damn… I’ve never seen such absurdity. Actually, here in brazil it's not much different, with the exception that Bitcoin related aren't banned. But when it comes to imports, the brasilian government taxes goods with up to 60% import duty and also charges ICMS (which ranges from 17% to 25%) depending on the state. We have a system called "Remessa Conforme" (shipment as per) that aims to simplify and speed up tax collection on goods and release products faster. In some cases, like purchases on aliexpress from stores in the “Remessa Conforme” program, the final tax can reach 92% or more. That’s right: you practically pay for two products: one for you and one for the government lol.

Anyone from brazil knows exactly how it works: taxes on top of taxes, bureaucracy, delays, and a constant feeling that the system was designed to make things harder.

BTC address and private key printed on card. Ideally, it is assumed to be the only copy. Isn't that a wallet? Isn't it more of a wallet than any exchange (exchanges, which many consider as a wallet)?
Isn't even such an option much safer than many exchanges that have been hacked and the countless number of cases where users have lost money because they kept their assets on an unreliable service

btw. I'm not saying that such a card is ideal and that life savings should be encouraged on it, but it is certainly no less reliable than most online services.

I get your point, a card with a printed privkey is certainly safer, as long as it is the only copy, it's still a wallet. It's comparable to a paper wallet, but a paper wallet is only used once, due to the good practice of not reusing the address. But it's also a collector's item that the person who received it will keep as a decorative item as well, but it's still a wallet, I just don't think we should keep significant amounts of money, in the same way that I think it isn't appropriate to keep significant amounts of money in a single paper wallet.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Not sure, I'm still skeptical about what you said. Even if we assume they won't know the content, they will likely get suspicious after seeing the sender's info. I don't know about other places, but the custom officers in my country are filled with corruption. They always try to check who is sending what! I've always wanted to order a hardware wallet from abroad but never did because of this issue. Cryptocurrency is banned here, but hardware wallets certainly aren't.

There have been many incidents where customs officers have illegally seized passengers belongings. For example, as per the rules, we are allowed to bring two phones tax free. I saw a video where they seized the passengers phones (he brought 2). They gave him the cheaper one but took the expensive one (an iPhone)

You sure do have a very good point, one that have made me think deep and came to a possible realization or reason why I never got or received my card from Unijoin when they were still active..

Just like mixtum now, I believe many of us will remember that unijoin also held a similar contest where users can win Unijoin customized cards with Bitcoin wallet, I happen to win in one of the contest, I was contacted and I provided all needed information and the card was shipped to my address, but I never got any call informing me I had a parcel to claim even till date, it's very possible that the custom officers seized it so the parcel didnt get to my post office.
And this is possible because cryptocurrencies and it's related transactions are banned in Nigeria as well, though I am beginning to hear rumors that this ban will be lifted soon.

[PX-Z]

.., but I never got any call informing me I had a parcel to claim even till date, it's very possible that the custom officers seized it so the parcel didnt get to my post office.

But you were provided with tracking number of the shipment, right? Where you can track it when it receives on your area. If yes, then the problem was on the shipping company on your area, sometimes it take months before they organized then contact you especially to government controlled postal service. I experience it as well, and i was annoyed, until i got a call 3-5 month later from the postal service. Lol

But when I won a Cryptosteel capsule from an exch raffle, it was shipped and delivered super fast. It even felt like a local delivery since they used a different, more efficient courier.

[DYING_S0UL]

You sure do have a very good point, one that have made me think deep and came to a possible realization or reason why I never got or received my card from Unijoin when they were still active..

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Could be, something like this can also happens, noting is impossible.

The things I said before isn't some kind of fairy tale! They really check whether the parcel is of high value or not. Also all the airport officials follows this specific way! When they see you didn't bought much, they simply let you go, but when it's about money, jewelry, they target these people! I have seen many station where they illegally tried to seize the peoples funds, so I won't be surprised with such behavior.

[Ambatman]

And this is possible because cryptocurrencies and it's related transactions are banned in Nigeria as well, though I am beginning to hear rumors that this ban will be lifted soon.

Is not really banned perse. Just banks are prevented in engaging in any crypto related schemes.
Our customs officer ain't the type one want to have a contact with
Greed is their middle name.


I have not won such contest and Would have love to have a Bitcoin related collectible
But don't know if it's worth the risk. The drama.

[dkbit98]

Imagine traveling somewhere and getting harassed by customs over electronics. Over cash I understand, and there are laws about this, and even hardware wallets to some extent, but arbitrary other possessions that aren't even monetary in nature should be left alone.

It's happening more than you think, and they are going to route of forcing everyone to use digital CBDC that must be used with stupid smartphones... you see the route they are going.
I think they even have backdoor access to almost all smartphones made today, so it's hard to hide anything, and with CBDC they could track everything.

But you were provided with tracking number of the shipment, right? Where you can track it when it receives on your area. If yes, then the problem was on the shipping company on your area, sometimes it take months before they organized then contact you especially to government controlled postal service. I experience it as well, and i was annoyed, until i got a call 3-5 month later from the postal service. Lol

International shipping is a messy bussines, and some countries have bad reputation... I heard that about local post service in Brazil, don't know if that is true.

[Gposas]

Not sure, I'm still skeptical about what you said. Even if we assume they won't know the content, they will likely get suspicious after seeing the sender's info. I don't know about other places, but the custom officers in my country are filled with corruption. They always try to check who is sending what! I've always wanted to order a hardware wallet from abroad but never did because of this issue. Cryptocurrency is banned here, but hardware wallets certainly aren't.

There have been many incidents where customs officers have illegally seized passengers belongings. For example, as per the rules, we are allowed to bring two phones tax free. I saw a video where they seized the passengers phones (he brought 2). They gave him the cheaper one but took the expensive one (an iPhone)

That's ridiculous and frankly that makes me upset.

Imagine traveling somewhere and getting harassed by customs over electronics. Over cash I understand, and there are laws about this, and even hardware wallets to some extent, but arbitrary other possessions that aren't even monetary in nature should be left alone.

The customs who has been set to place ban/embargo on illegal goods is no more considering what is illegal rather they claim a legal goods to be illegal and then seize it. I wonder the corrupt mindset amongst these groups.

It now becomes so hard to order expensive goods that are not very common in my nation from other countries because of the fear of it not getting seized by the custom duties.

And the worst thing is that, in attempt to go and claim your own goods that was seized, you'll spend a lot of money in settling different calibres in the sector and this causes discouragement and most people forget about the goods... Mind you, the goods that the custom claims to be illegal, you'll see them in their household or they go and sell it in the commodity market.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

And this is possible because cryptocurrencies and it's related transactions are banned in Nigeria as well, though I am beginning to hear rumors that this ban will be lifted soon.

Is not really banned perse. Just banks are prevented in engaging in any crypto related schemes.

Only banks are prevented from carrying out crypto transactions but way back 2023,  a crypto trader's bank account was containing hundreds in millions of naira was frozen by the bank because they suspected he was into crypto, yeah, the matter later landed in the court and after a very long legal battle, the dude won the case and his account from unfrozen, but you know the only reason he won that case was because of the kind of backing and people he knows in top places who intervened in the matter, else, he would have lost hundreds in million to the nigerian government and would have also be sent to jail.

Why are we being told never to include any crypto related stuffs in our reference when trading p2p if crypto transaction is not banned for individuals?

We are being lead by a government that say one, and does two or three, whether or not crypto is banned for only banks, individuals still need to be very careful.

[KingsDen]

The card shouldn't be compared to a soft or hw or used as such. It's merely a decorative item, where we can send funds to the address printed on the card.

It isn't for depositing life-long amounts, it's just something symbolic, importing it to your wallet in a secure and offline manner, preferably in a bitcoin core wallet, since the key is imported into the keystore and whenever you use the card address to receive funds, you will also receive it in your bitcoin core wallet if the card address/key is imported there.

If I were given one of these collector's items, I would use it this way.

BTC address and private key printed on card. Ideally, it is assumed to be the only copy. Isn't that a wallet? Isn't it more of a wallet than any exchange (exchanges, which many consider as a wallet)?
Isn't even such an option much safer than many exchanges that have been hacked and the countless number of cases where users have lost money because they kept their assets on an unreliable service

btw. I'm not saying that such a card is ideal and that life savings should be encouraged on it, but it is certainly no less reliable than most online services.

I have never thought of it that way. Do you mean that the Mixtum card could otherwise be used as a hardware wallet? Lol
But if that be the only copy (which we assume), reusing the address and keeping safe the private key could serve as a temporary wallet which is better than exchange wallets that many use.