🛡️ MixTum.io - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018

[KingsDen]

The question is that will google approve it? If mixers can successfully index in Google, (I don't mean the scam and clone domains), there might be no need promoting here.

Community support is also very important, one more reason for them to promote here or in BTT.

Users who have problems may ask help here, or when they have questions about which service to choose, seeing a big thread like this one is certainly good

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Yes, I missed it. Community support. Building your brand in a large crypto community is second to none. It gives confidence to your customers. That was actually what was missing when BTT banned mixers. Mixer scam increased

[Bobcrypto]

The question is that will google approve it? If mixers can successfully index in Google, (I don't mean the scam and clone domains), there might be no need promoting here.

Community support is also very important, one more reason for them to promote here or in BTT.

Users who have problems may ask help here, or when they have questions about which service to choose, seeing a big thread like this one is certainly good

Yeah, promoting mixers here is just like a standard, though Google is a popular company globally but everything related to Cryptocurrency is commonly a community driven ecosystem.
Google promotions is a mixed up of different companies promoting different things, but forum like here is absolutely the right place to get the true identity of the actual mixer domain.
If Google accept or begins indexing of mixers, there will surely be multiple phishing websites and fake mixer's domains, and definitely, if there are too many complaints of fraud on mixers, investigations will start on all available mixers domain that may lead to strong regulations on Bitcoin mixers in my opinion.

[bitmover]

If Google accept or begins indexing of mixers, there will surely be multiple phishing websites and fake mixer's domains, and definitely, if there are too many complaints of fraud on mixers, investigations will start on all available mixers domain that may lead to strong regulations on Bitcoin mixers in my opinion.

It is quite strange that google indexes phising fake mixers, but won't index real ones...

Maybe phising websites care more about SEO than mixtum? Could this be a technical problem?

[PX-Z]

Maybe phising websites care more about SEO than mixtum?

It's one of the ways to get victim, so yes, it's possible.

I checked both websites, the legit and .to domain, both have sitemap.xml and robots.txt, so it's a matter if who use Google search console, or maybe just maybe, legit mixtum don't want to get indexed. I checked that their website is not indexed not a single URL.

[examplens]

I think the point is that mixtum could benefit here .

There are certainly other phishing domains around.
Just found one more in a bing search, and couldn't find the correct one


https://www.mixtum-io[.]com
https://www.mixtum[.]to
https://mix-tum[.]org

I became curious to see your post and thought I would do a Bing search as well. I also found the same result, and I found one more mixtum phishing

https://mixertum[.]org

I found at least four more mixtum phishing domains listed by coinomize here. Most of those domains are inactive right now, but one of them is still operating.

It seems the [.]to domain is most concerning; it appears in every search engine, and this domain is the first result.

Due to the specificity and type of business, as well as the fact that until recently we had a serious hunt for mixers, it was not an easy task to position the mixer on Google. As far as I've noticed, most mixers don't even try too hard through SEO and similar techniques. Hence the insistence on signature campaigns.
It is much easier for scammers to position themselves on Google, because they are not obliged to deliver a functional service and can do basic seo under completely different keywords.
It's a good thing that mixer users rarely search for an adequate tumbler service through traditional search engines.

[bitmover]

Maybe phising websites care more about SEO than mixtum?

It's one of the ways to get victim, so yes, it's possible.

It is also a good way to get customers, maybe mixtum should invest more in it.

As far as I've noticed, most mixers don't even try too hard through SEO and similar techniques. Hence the insistence on signature campaigns.
It is much easier for scammers to position themselves on Google, because they are not obliged to deliver a functional service and can do basic seo under completely different keywords.
It's a good thing that mixer users rarely search for an adequate tumbler service through traditional search engines.

One more reason to keep a strong community support, with topics in forums such as this one. This kind of action has a high impact in the service credibility and trust

[God Of Thunder]

One more reason to keep a strong community support, with topics in forums such as this one. This kind of action has a high impact in the service credibility and trust

Did you notice that even though the original Mixtum domain does not appear on Google search, the signature campaign thread of the AltcoinTalks forum and the announcement thread appear in the search results. This actually shows how important to have an announcement thread on a forum. Potential users can always come to the thread and see the discussion.

I think it is important for mixers to try to eliminate those phishing websites. They are losing customers and probably getting a scammer tag because of those phishing websites.

[KingsDen]

I think it is important for mixers to try to eliminate those phishing websites. They are losing customers and probably getting a scammer tag because of those phishing websites.

The best way to do this is to intensify their community based promotion and encourage customers to locate them through a proven community.
I also blame most people who fall for these phishing sites. Is it that they don't know about forums or make extensive research before using any service. I will not be comfortable using a random mixer without the recommendation of a community, perhaps where I can take my complaints to.

Even here in the forum, if I want to use any mixer, I'll either click on any signature or go to their announcement thread, I have trust issues when it comes to urls.

[bitmover]

I also blame most people who fall for these phishing sites. Is it that they don't know about forums or make extensive research before using any service. I will not be comfortable using a random mixer without the recommendation of a community, perhaps where I can take my complaints to.

To some extent, it is a mistake of the users to fall in thesse phising sites.
However, unexperienced users may fall in such schemes.

I was close to getting scammed about 1-2 times, because I was not paying attention. But I was able to realize what was happening before sending money.

Everyone makes a mistake from time to time, and that is normal. This is why those phising websites make so much money, this is why they invest money and time in domains, development, etc..

[dkbit98]

eXch launched a successful anti-phising campaign which was able to take down already 4 phising domains.

That would be a good idea.
Maybe we can't shut all phishing domains down, but we can reduce their numbers.

I think it has been said several times that mixtum.io is the only legitimate clearnet domain for this mixer. Everything else is fake, without verification.

You can say something a hundreds of time, but question is how many people are going to see that.
This is the case with most phishing websites, people find them by using g00gle search, or by being redirected from other website or received email.

[BitMaxz]

In addition, indexing a mixer on Google is not a good idea because too much exposure to the public will attract the attention of the government, as the same happened with other mixers, and it will be seized by the government.

The question is that will google approve it? If mixers can successfully index in Google, (I don't mean the scam and clone domains), there might be no need promoting here.

Same reason casinos embrace signature campaigns in Bitcointalk. Apart from crypto forums like this, the next possible place for intense promotion is the dark web

Why not? if it was indexed in Google, it doesn't mean people will see it unless they use the keyword domain name; plus, Google has its own algorithm and ranking system. If you just search it on Google using the keyword mixer, low-quality sites will not be able to take the top spot in the search results. Having a backlinks and if someone mention this domain it helps on Google rankings.

So it is a good idea to promote it on the forum like altcoinstalks to have backlinks and mention this domain to rankup on Google but I don't think it's a good idea to index mixer in Google since most of the people who use Mixer want to hide their identity. I believe they are going to use TOR and only use DarkWeb search engines like Duckduckgo that is a better place to index Mixers.

[God Of Thunder]

Why not? if it was indexed in Google, it doesn't mean people will see it unless they use the keyword domain name; plus, Google has its own algorithm and ranking system. If you just search it on Google using the keyword mixer, low-quality sites will not be able to take the top spot in the search results. Having a backlinks and if someone mention this domain it helps on Google rankings.

Exactly. Otherwise, the platforms won't spend millions of dollars on promotions. Just because a domain was indexed on Google does not mean it will automatically receive visitors. People have to use specific keywords so the domain appears in the search results. But on forums, no one has to search for anything. If they are browsing the forum and some company has an active signature campaign, the visitor will see the ads of the company. Yeah, I also agree that discussions on the forum about a company actually help their SEO work.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I think it is important for mixers to try to eliminate those phishing websites. They are losing customers and probably getting a scammer tag because of those phishing websites.

The best way to do this is to intensify their community based promotion and encourage customers to locate them through a proven community.
I also blame most people who fall for these phishing sites. Is it that they don't know about forums or make extensive research before using any service. I will not be comfortable using a random mixer without the recommendation of a community, perhaps where I can take my complaints to.

Even here in the forum, if I want to use any mixer, I'll either click on any signature or go to their announcement thread, I have trust issues when it comes to urls.

If I must be honest with you, i would say that you really don't have to blame those who fall victim to scam as a result of choosing the fake mixer over the original one, and this is because level of IQ isn't the same for everyone, people reason and  or think differently and under different circumstances.

There are people who for some reasons best known to them don't remember to do any form of research before committing money to a mixer and only will realize they should have researched before committing money after they have been scammed.

So in cutting down the rate at which people fall victim to scam mixers, it will be a collective effort from both the legit mixers, their community and the potential customers themselves, legit mixers have to intensify their marketing since sometimes, it seems to me like this comofladged mixers tends to carry out a more intensified or heightened marketing, making potential customers to discover them first.

[snowpega]

Well, the mixers don't really care much about getting indexed on Google as their main intention is to get more exposure from the crypto community and they know that most of their users are at forums like Bitcointalk and now most of those users are at this forum as well.

Well, mate, this can be the fact that mixers don't care much about being indexed on Google, but technically the links that we are putting on in the form of signatures somehow help mixers to get indexed in Google and work as backlinks for these mixer projects. Don't you think?

It can, using the google schema markup (json format). This is also one of the disadvantage of this forum because this wasn't implemented yet despite of lower in ranks, pa, da, backlinks, etc.

I read all previous discussions on this, and I feel you explain things very well. I also have been working on two website projects for maybe one and a half year maybe; that is why I believe that these signature links work as backlinks that help mixer projects to get indexed on Google pages, right?

[PX-Z]

; that is why I believe that these signature links work as backlinks that help mixer projects to get indexed on Google pages, right?

That's not very effective for Google indexing. However, for backlinking purposes, it might help to some extent. Still, effective backlinking usually only works if the campaign lasts for a long period, at least a year or more, because once the signature is removed, the links disappear as well, reducing any long-term benefit.