[Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread

[robelneo]

Yes mate, and if by chance Nery lasted 12 rounds and we but a bet on it, odds are pretty high at 15.00, hehehehe. I know for sure that you will be looking at this odds  .

And really hard to think what kind of fighter should beat his version of Inoue. He could have the combination of speed and power and boxing IQ and should have a granite chin to stay with the monster. But I don't see the Nery has all of this tools in his arsenal.

That's the good thing about Inoue, he doesn't only have the speed and power but he also possess a tough chin which is comparable to Manny Pacquiao. Even Casimero will be having a very hard time figuring on how to win against the Japanese Monster as the former is the only one left in the Philippines that have a chance to fight him.

Even if they meet in the ring, Casimero will be the heavy underdog and Casimero will have a hard time beating Inoue, people love to see them fight in the ring because Casimero keeps bragging that he has the means to beat Inue, but we all know he is just trolling and Casimero has been trolling him for years.

Inoue keeps ignoring him if Casimero is really serious he should renegotiate to be under MP Promotions who can make the fight possible, but Casimero is full of pride to renegotiate.

[Kemarit]

Yes mate, and if by chance Nery lasted 12 rounds and we but a bet on it, odds are pretty high at 15.00, hehehehe. I know for sure that you will be looking at this odds  .

And really hard to think what kind of fighter should beat his version of Inoue. He could have the combination of speed and power and boxing IQ and should have a granite chin to stay with the monster. But I don't see the Nery has all of this tools in his arsenal.

That's the good thing about Inoue, he doesn't only have the speed and power but he also possess a tough chin which is comparable to Manny Pacquiao. Even Casimero will be having a very hard time figuring on how to win against the Japanese Monster as the former is the only one left in the Philippines that have a chance to fight him.

Even if they meet in the ring, Casimero will be the heavy underdog and Casimero will have a hard time beating Inoue, people love to see them fight in the ring because Casimero keeps bragging that he has the means to beat Inue, but we all know he is just trolling and Casimero has been trolling him for years.

Inoue keeps ignoring him if Casimero is really serious he should renegotiate to be under MP Promotions who can make the fight possible, but Casimero is full of pride to renegotiate.

I would say that Casimero's chances are very slim now, he don't have any power in the negotiating table and I think he is envy that Nery has the chance to crack at Inoue.

Him and Nery has been talking trash way before, when Casimero is still at his prime and his name on top of 118 lbs. But now it's totally different, they are in the same weight by Casimero's fight at 122 lbs is not that impressive and so Inoue passes him for Nery.

[bisdak40]

I would say that Casimero's chances are very slim now, he don't have any power in the negotiating table and I think he is envy that Nery has the chance to crack at Inoue.

Him and Nery has been talking trash way before, when Casimero is still at his prime and his name on top of 118 lbs. But now it's totally different, they are in the same weight by Casimero's fight at 122 lbs is not that impressive and so Inoue passes him for Nery.

I do agree, Casimero's chance of dethroning Naoya Inoue is slim no because of lack in bargaining power plus the fact that his fights in the super bantamweight division were not so impressive. Casimero is 35 years old now, if his team wants to fight Inoue then they must make their move now as he will not be in his peak anymore because of old age.

[Baofeng]

I would say that Casimero's chances are very slim now, he don't have any power in the negotiating table and I think he is envy that Nery has the chance to crack at Inoue.

Him and Nery has been talking trash way before, when Casimero is still at his prime and his name on top of 118 lbs. But now it's totally different, they are in the same weight by Casimero's fight at 122 lbs is not that impressive and so Inoue passes him for Nery.

I do agree, Casimero's chance of dethroning Naoya Inoue is slim no because of lack in bargaining power plus the fact that his fights in the super bantamweight division were not so impressive. Casimero is 35 years old now, if his team wants to fight Inoue then they must make their move now as he will not be in his peak anymore because of old age.

Right, he is 35 years old and we can see that his power is somewhat not carried on 122 lbs. The only thing that might give him a chance is that he is under a Japanese manager and so it will be easy to talk to Inoue's camp.

Nevertheless, if he has nothing to offer to Inoue, then he will not get a future chance.

And Casimero is not about to jump to 126 lbs as well, he will be too small for that weight class.

[bisdak40]

So, everything is now set for the undisputed fight for the unification of the belts in the Light Heavyweight division as the fighters meet for the first press conference.

One thing i observed, Arthur Beterbiev is not much of a talker hehe, good thing that Bivol saves him on that area  .

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BTW as per press conference, the fight will be held on June 1 in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

[Baofeng]

So, everything is now set for the undisputed fight for the unification of the belts in the Light Heavyweight division as the fighters meet for the first press conference.

One thing i observed, Arthur Beterbiev is not much of a talker hehe, good thing that Bivol saves him on that area  .

BTW as per press conference, the fight will be held on June 1 in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

It's probably the language barrier, that's why Beterview doesn't open his mouth that often. But nevertheless this is a big fight, in this division. I can't remember when was the last time we have a unified champion in the modern era in this division, so this could be the first.

Yeah, we have a date already and they also announce the undercard which included 2 HW fights.

We will see how Zhang will fare against the comebacking Wilder.

[Baofeng]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HzBqdKmXuY

And so Devin got his revenge against Ryan when he pushed him in their face off at Empire State. Not sure though if this is enough to push the fight to the masses and make some noises as there are reports that tickets are not selling out as it supposed to be.

Let's see if this is enough to make casual fans to buy and talk about this fight in social media.

[Baofeng]

Updating this thread,

Ryan Garcia defeated Devin Haney,

Ryan Garcia revived his career by recording one of the most remarkable of all victories to dethrone Devin Haney as the WBC super-lightweight champion.

He will not leave the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York with the title, because his being overweight made him ineligible to win it, but he enhanced his reputation by earning the most unlikely of majority decisions, via scores of 112-112, 114-110 and 115-109.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bigger-make-better-ryan-garcia-overpowers-devin-haney-shocker--182995

I guess nobody saw it coming? He was a big underdog in this fight, going from as high as 8:1 underdog. But he proved that his left hook is still his main weapon as once it touches Haney, Devin always touches the floor.

Congrats to those who went and bet on the underdog Ryan "King Ry" Garcia.

[electronicash]

Updating this thread,

Ryan Garcia defeated Devin Haney,

Ryan Garcia revived his career by recording one of the most remarkable of all victories to dethrone Devin Haney as the WBC super-lightweight champion.

He will not leave the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York with the title, because his being overweight made him ineligible to win it, but he enhanced his reputation by earning the most unlikely of majority decisions, via scores of 112-112, 114-110 and 115-109.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bigger-make-better-ryan-garcia-overpowers-devin-haney-shocker--182995

I guess nobody saw it coming? He was a big underdog in this fight, going from as high as 8:1 underdog. But he proved that his left hook is still his main weapon as once it touches Haney, Devin always touches the floor.

Congrats to those who went and bet on the underdog Ryan "King Ry" Garcia.

didn't bet on fight fight. but i was planing to root for Haney, i would have lost too.

that left hook kept landing repeatedly.
after what ryan been doing on tweeter, a lot of people already thought his kid is demented and this fight wouldn't even be possible anymore because of it. but against all odds ryan beat the shit.
i kept following the interviews and in one video Ryan told Bill Haney to stop the fight because the referee was terrible but they didn't.

[pawel7777]

What do you guys think about the Canelo Vs Munguia fight, which is not far away, on 4th May.
Bookies seem to be thinking it's going to be smooth sailing for Canelo. I'm not that big of a boxing fan and haven't been following Munguia's career that closely, but his record and KO rate (of almost 80%) look quite impressive.

Odds are very similar to Canelo Vs Bivol, when the Mexican was a big favorite but got outclassed by the Russian.


Are these fair or misplaced? Worth putting a few $ on Munguia?

[bisdak40]

@pawel7777, this Munguia fight is different from that of Bivol because Canelo will be fighting in his own division and many individuals or analysts consider this fight as cherry picking for Canelo as he should fight David Benavidez who is eager on facing him and have the tools to dethrone Canelo.

I choose Canelo to win this fight but will be betting for Munguia because betting for the former is not practical as the odds is very low for him while it would be x5 for Munguia to win ML.

Who knows, Oscar might be 2-0 this coming Cinco-de-Mayo hehe. Ryan Garcia upsets Haney, maybe Munguia will also upsets Canelo.

[Baofeng]

@pawel7777, this Munguia fight is different from that of Bivol because Canelo will be fighting in his own division and many individuals or analysts consider this fight as cherry picking for Canelo as he should fight David Benavidez who is eager on facing him and have the tools to dethrone Canelo.

I choose Canelo to win this fight but will be betting for Munguia because betting for the former is not practical as the odds is very low for him while it would be x5 for Munguia to win ML.

Who knows, Oscar might be 2-0 this coming Cinco-de-Mayo hehe. Ryan Garcia upsets Haney, maybe Munguia will also upsets Canelo.

I will be ironic if Oscar will score 2-0, back to back upsets and it could be one of the news this 2024. You can see the expression of Oscar in the post fight interview, he is very elated that Ryan wins and then he talks about Garcia as the new face of boxing because of this big win.

So let's see, maybe Munguia is inspired by Garcia's big win against Haney and will push himself to train harder to upset the current cash cow in Canelo. Why not throw some money in Munguia. Betting some money to Munguia's funds wouldn't cause any harm, hehehe.

[pawel7777]

@pawel7777, this Munguia fight is different from that of Bivol because Canelo will be fighting in his own division and many individuals or analysts consider this fight as cherry picking for Canelo as he should fight David Benavidez who is eager on facing him and have the tools to dethrone Canelo.

I choose Canelo to win this fight but will be betting for Munguia because betting for the former is not practical as the odds is very low for him while it would be x5 for Munguia to win ML.

Thanks.
I also think Canelo is more likely to win (at least from my limited knowledge on those two), but the question is, aren't the odds for Munguia attractive enough to throw few $ on it.
But again, I'm not that deep into boxing and might be overestimating Jaime a little bit.

[Baofeng]

Anyone heard about the lawsuit of Derrick James against his former pupil in Errol Spence?

Derrick James and Errol Spence have not only parted ways but have taken legal action against one another.

The Ring has confirmed that James filed a lawsuit against his now former client, seeking damages in excess of $5,000,000. A 19-page Breach of Contract, Fraud and Misrepresentation complaint was filed on April 17 with the 191st Judicial District Court of Dallas County, Texas.

https://www.ringtv.com/669039-derrick-james-errol-spence-embroiled-in-two-way-lawsuit-amidst-bitter-split/

It's just sad to hear that they are now in a bitter lawsuit, they used to be one of the best trainer-boxer, similar to the mold of Roach-Pacquaio. But not sure what happened to the two. Yes, Spence last to Crawford but I don't think that Errol should blame his James for that in my opinion.

[bisdak40]

Anyone heard about the lawsuit of Derrick James against his former pupil in Errol Spence?

Derrick James and Errol Spence have not only parted ways but have taken legal action against one another.

The Ring has confirmed that James filed a lawsuit against his now former client, seeking damages in excess of $5,000,000. A 19-page Breach of Contract, Fraud and Misrepresentation complaint was filed on April 17 with the 191st Judicial District Court of Dallas County, Texas.

https://www.ringtv.com/669039-derrick-james-errol-spence-embroiled-in-two-way-lawsuit-amidst-bitter-split/

It's just sad to hear that they are now in a bitter lawsuit, they used to be one of the best trainer-boxer, similar to the mold of Roach-Pacquaio. But not sure what happened to the two. Yes, Spence last to Crawford but I don't think that Errol should blame his James for that in my opinion.

Have read this feud in the boxing news but i don't what's the root of all of these issues. On his lost to Crawford, i don't think that James would took the blame as Crawford is way above Spence in terms of boxing talent and even trainers couldn't change the outcome of that fight. I just hope that the two will settle their dispute off the court.