[Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread

[electronicash]

Kambosos got schooled, he would have lost even if he wasn't TKO'd from the body shots. I don' t know what happened to him during the fight but maybe Lomachenko's constant pressure got to him.

It would be a wide margin decision win for Loma if Kambosos wasn't KOed, that was my expectation. Kambosos was frustrated that he can't hit Loma with his power punch while Loma hit him at will whenever and wherever Loma wants. That was Loma's style, goes to the head first then dig in the body on the championship rounds. That liver shot was not a lucky punch as that was also the punch that KOed Jorge Linares.

the footwork is making a huge difference in their fight. Loma is just better at it. and i thought he will actually lose this fight so i bet for Georgy.
what surfaces this time however is that its Tank Davis is Loma's next fight. this time this will divide fans whether which is which. while i like Tank, Loma shows he still got it and can deliver his will.

Tank vs Loma is still in progress if could change to Shakur.   i think Tank is too much for Loma. Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.

[bisdak40]

Tank vs Loma is still in progress if could change to Shakur.   i think Tank is too much for Loma. Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.

Tank vs Loma is floating now and i think this is a fight that i think Loma should take because the latter has the advantage on the size though heavy handed but i do think he could avoid the power bombs of Tank Davis.

It now depends on Bob Arum on whom will he choose as the next opponent of Loma.

[Zed0X]

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Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.

It's going to be a snoozefest for some/many fans. I'm already reading comments about how boring this is going to be and I think that's also a factor whether the promoters want to push this fight or not. It will probably not generate the amount of PPV buys and Gate that they wanted.

[robelneo]

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Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.

It's going to be a snoozefest for some/many fans. I'm already reading comments about how boring this is going to be and I think that's also a factor whether the promoters want to push this fight or not. It will probably not generate the amount of PPV buys and Gate that they wanted.

Style makes the fight, and that's likely to happen, but between the two, Loma has offense in his arsenal, so I expect him to be the one that goes on the offensive, and if the stake is too high between the two, they will abandon that kind of style and push for a more aggressive style that will earn points or knockouts, you can't be passive if there are titles, money and reputation on the line.

[Baofeng]

Tank vs Loma is still in progress if could change to Shakur.   i think Tank is too much for Loma. Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.

Tank vs Loma is floating now and i think this is a fight that i think Loma should take because the latter has the advantage on the size though heavy handed but i do think he could avoid the power bombs of Tank Davis.

Tank vs Loma, or Shakur vs Loma will be good in my opinion. Going to be explosive for a Tank vs Loma fight. Tank using his power and boxing IQ against Loma, technique. Loma though should start quick moving forward, he can't be a slow starter just like what his strategy against Haney then. That's why you can see in the Kambosos fight that he started fast and soften Kambosos in the later round.

It now depends on Bob Arum on whom will he choose as the next opponent of Loma.

Yes, whichever Bob Arum can easily talk to and sit down and laid up what they will get if they fight Loma. Shakur though should be a sho-in if he chooses to extend his contract with Top Rank, but it seems the doesn't want to and become a free agent after his last fight in July.

[bisdak40]

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Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.

It's going to be a snoozefest for some/many fans. I'm already reading comments about how boring this is going to be and I think that's also a factor whether the promoters want to push this fight or not. It will probably not generate the amount of PPV buys and Gate that they wanted.

This is the reason why i chooses Tank Davis over Shakur Stevenson because the latter is not a crowd drawer and his style is more on the defensive, snore fest indeed if Loma and Shakur would meet in the ring. At this stage of his career, Loma needs money fights and Tank Davis could give him that.

[Baofeng]

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Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.

It's going to be a snoozefest for some/many fans. I'm already reading comments about how boring this is going to be and I think that's also a factor whether the promoters want to push this fight or not. It will probably not generate the amount of PPV buys and Gate that they wanted.

This is the reason why i chooses Tank Davis over Shakur Stevenson because the latter is not a crowd drawer and his style is more on the defensive, snore fest indeed if Loma and Shakur would meet in the ring. At this stage of his career, Loma needs money fights and Tank Davis could give him that.

I do agree, I would love to see Davis vs Loma as well in the ring. But still depends on how Bob Arum will approach the camp of Tank for this great fight. And now that there are controversies as whether organizations are capping a 12 lbs in every fight moving forward are rehydration clause.

But anyways, let's see, a power puncher vs the technical skills of Loma that will be a great match-up to see and we will wait who will prevail in this kind of fights. And it's going to be unpredictable.

[bisdak40]

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Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.

It's going to be a snoozefest for some/many fans. I'm already reading comments about how boring this is going to be and I think that's also a factor whether the promoters want to push this fight or not. It will probably not generate the amount of PPV buys and Gate that they wanted.

This is the reason why i chooses Tank Davis over Shakur Stevenson because the latter is not a crowd drawer and his style is more on the defensive, snore fest indeed if Loma and Shakur would meet in the ring. At this stage of his career, Loma needs money fights and Tank Davis could give him that.

I do agree, I would love to see Davis vs Loma as well in the ring. But still depends on how Bob Arum will approach the camp of Tank for this great fight. And now that there are controversies as whether organizations are capping a 12 lbs in every fight moving forward are rehydration clause.

But anyways, let's see, a power puncher vs the technical skills of Loma that will be a great match-up to see and we will wait who will prevail in this kind of fights. And it's going to be unpredictable.

The camp of Tank Davis will do its best to outsmart their opponent, that 12-pound rehydration clause is for me a coward act. They are fighting for a championship belt then why stipulate that in the contract, they should fight in the lower division if they don't want their opponent to be bigger than them.

[bisdak40]

Taylor vs Catterall:

This fight will be on the weekend guys and as we can see on the betting odds, it shifted from Taylor being the favorite, he is now the underdog of this fight. As I have stated on the other forum, I'm more inclined to back Catterall to win this fight via decision.

@Baofeng, what is your take on this fight mate?

[Baofeng]

^^ Here is the final press conference and face-off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlufTT97rjY

Since Josh Taylor is now the underdog, I will be looking for him to push himself and win this fight. He is on a must win here, otherwise, his name will be lost into oblivion as the fastest undisputed 140 lbs, who lost his belt and then wasn't the same before.

Odds for him are very attractive and hopefully he will have that one great fight, just like those champion in the past wherein before they retire, they have that one good fight that will cemented their legacy.

[robelneo]

^^ Here is the final press conference and face-off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlufTT97rjY

Since Josh Taylor is now the underdog, I will be looking for him to push himself and win this fight. He is on a must win here, otherwise, his name will be lost into oblivion as the fastest undisputed 140 lbs, who lost his belt and then wasn't the same before.

Odds for him are very attractive and hopefully he will have that one great fight, just like those champion in the past wherein before they retire, they have that one good fight that will cemented their legacy.

I'm backing Catterall for this fight I was going for Taylor weeks before the fight but I have seen Catterall's motivation, he was robbed of the titles because of the wrong decision and now when they are about to rematch there is no title on the line because Taylor loses it against Teofimo Lopez so its more of a personal because of what the opportunities he losses because of the decision.

[Baofeng]

^^ Here is the final press conference and face-off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlufTT97rjY

Since Josh Taylor is now the underdog, I will be looking for him to push himself and win this fight. He is on a must win here, otherwise, his name will be lost into oblivion as the fastest undisputed 140 lbs, who lost his belt and then wasn't the same before.

Odds for him are very attractive and hopefully he will have that one great fight, just like those champion in the past wherein before they retire, they have that one good fight that will cemented their legacy.

I'm backing Catterall for this fight I was going for Taylor weeks before the fight but I have seen Catterall's motivation, he was robbed of the titles because of the wrong decision and now when they are about to rematch there is no title on the line because Taylor loses it against Teofimo Lopez so its more of a personal because of what the opportunities he losses because of the decision.

Congrats mate if you put a decent money on Jack Catterall as he won the fight in the judges scorecard,  Kieran McCann and Mark Bates both scored 117-111 and Lee Every saw it 116-113 – all for Catterall.

I haven't seen the highlights yet, it just came to my feed right now. But I'm happy to see the Jack finally won and it just shows that the first win is really no fluke and that he should be declared the winner.

As for Josh, I think it's the end of the road for the Tartan Warrior, too much wear and tear already, but at least he had accomplished to be a unified champion at 140 lbs.

[bisdak40]

As for Josh, I think it's the end of the road for the Tartan Warrior, too much wear and tear already, but at least he had accomplished to be a unified champion at 140 lbs.

I do agree, he should hang up his gloves for good now as his unfinished business with Catterall has been settled already and it was clear that he was on the losing side and there is no excitement anymore for the fans of boxing to have a trilogy.

[pawel7777]

Here are the odds for the full card of the Bivol Vs Zinad next week:

Dmitry Bivol x1.06 vs. Malik Zinad x12.50
Daniel Dubois x2.70 vs. Filip Hrgovic x1.44
Zhilei Zhang x1.61 vs. Deontay Wilder x2.28
Nick Ball x2.38 vs. Ray Ford x1.57
Hamzah Sheeraz x1.44 vs. Austin Williams x2.75
Willy Hutchinson x2.07 vs. Craig Richards x1.73

Which of the above would you consider a good value bet?
I think it's possible that Wilder will redeem himself and could find a way to finish Zhang. Are odds of x2.28 good enough to make such bet? I'm not convinced.

[Kemarit]

As for Josh, I think it's the end of the road for the Tartan Warrior, too much wear and tear already, but at least he had accomplished to be a unified champion at 140 lbs.

I do agree, he should hang up his gloves for good now as his unfinished business with Catterall has been settled already and it was clear that he was on the losing side and there is no excitement anymore for the fans of boxing to have a trilogy.

It's just the wear and tear on his body. Even in the weigh in or face-off, you can visibly see that somewhat Josh Taylor looks old. And he might have a hard time getting into the 140 lbs limit here, although he did make it in this fight, in the future as he gets old, his body needs those added weight.

So I do agree for those fans who are calling for him to quit. There's no sense of a 3rd fight when by now we clearly see the Jack Catterall should have won the first fight if not for the judges who gives favor for Josh Taylor. And then Taylor just avoiding him for years maybe because he knows that he can't beat Catterall, IMHO.