[Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread

[bisdak40]

Here are the odds for the full card of the Bivol Vs Zinad next week:

Dmitry Bivol x1.06 vs. Malik Zinad x12.50
Daniel Dubois x2.70 vs. Filip Hrgovic x1.44
Zhilei Zhang x1.61 vs. Deontay Wilder x2.28
Nick Ball x2.38 vs. Ray Ford x1.57
Hamzah Sheeraz x1.44 vs. Austin Williams x2.75
Willy Hutchinson x2.07 vs. Craig Richards x1.73

Which of the above would you consider a good value bet?
I think it's possible that Wilder will redeem himself and could find a way to finish Zhang. Are odds of x2.28 good enough to make such bet? I'm not convinced.

For me that 2.28 odds is very attractive because Wilder is very capable of beating Zhang as the latter is not as good as Tyson Fury. I even think that Wilder is the favorite in this fight so thanks for this info mate.

Good to know that Bivol will be fighting this weekend, he should win this with ease as to not complicate his future fight with Beterbiev.

[Baofeng]

Here are the odds for the full card of the Bivol Vs Zinad next week:

Dmitry Bivol x1.06 vs. Malik Zinad x12.50
Daniel Dubois x2.70 vs. Filip Hrgovic x1.44
Zhilei Zhang x1.61 vs. Deontay Wilder x2.28
Nick Ball x2.38 vs. Ray Ford x1.57
Hamzah Sheeraz x1.44 vs. Austin Williams x2.75
Willy Hutchinson x2.07 vs. Craig Richards x1.73

Which of the above would you consider a good value bet?
I think it's possible that Wilder will redeem himself and could find a way to finish Zhang. Are odds of x2.28 good enough to make such bet? I'm not convinced.

For me that 2.28 odds is very attractive because Wilder is very capable of beating Zhang as the latter is not as good as Tyson Fury. I even think that Wilder is the favorite in this fight so thanks for this info mate.

Wilder is the underdog here, I think the odds maker might have considered his performance in his last outing against Parker. While on the other hand, Zhang was good against Parker in the early rounds, until he got tired and lost in the hands of the judges. But we will see if the Wilder can still pull the trigger and if he still possesses one of the scariest power that we have seen in this division. So it's good that he is the underdog and see a bet for him is very appealing and we are willing to take the risk.

Good to know that Bivol will be fighting this weekend, he should win this with ease as to not complicate his future fight with Beterbiev.

Tune-up fight for him, but he better win this in a spectacular manner so that the hype vs Beterbiev is still there.

[Baofeng]

According to this report,

According to multiple boxing sources who spoke to BoxingScene Tuesday, Alvarez (61-2-2, 39 KOs) intends to relinquish his IBF belt rather than participate in an ordered June 6 purse bid at IBF offices in New Jersey for a fight against that sanctioning body’s mandatory contender, little-known William Scull of Cuba (22-0, 9 KOs).

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-alvarez-set-relinquish-ibf-title-no-longer-undisputed-champion--183868

And so just like any other undisputed champion in the past, very hard to have all the belts and then defend it against each and every 4 organizations mandatory challengers.

I think it's good though, at least it will open up the belt and let others fight for it.

[pawel7777]

Regarding the Usyk Vs IBF drama, I wonder how things are perceived from the boxing organisations point of view (be it the IBF or other). Is it better for them to have their belt being just a part of big bundle or would that rather have their own, unique champion.
The truth is, if not for the risk of Usyk getting stripped, the IBF or Hrgovic would not get half the media coverage that they did receive in recent time. So it wouldn't surprise me if the IBF wanted to take the belt away from Usyk, just to appear more prestigious and uncompromising.

From a purely sport perspective, holding up the division and making the mandatory contender wait for over, with no concrete date in sight does not sounds very fair.

Anyhow, with 1 day to go, it's safe to say that there will be no interim belt on the line in the Hrgovic Vs. Dubois bout, so let's see how will things unfold after the fight.

[Baofeng]

Regarding the Vergil Ortiz fight, he is supposedly to fight Tim Tszyu, but Tim was not cleared medically to fight Vergil. And so the camp of Ortiz is looking for a new opponent and one name that pops up is Serhii Bohachuk..

Bohachuk is the WBC interim super welterweight champion from Ukraine. I think it is a good news if they will get him for Ortiz as he looks solid in his last fight when he beat Brian Mendoza. The man who scored a knockout against the current WBC champion Sebastian Fundora. And with the likes of Spence and Crawford moving up in this weight class, this division seems to be getting the attention now.

[pawel7777]

Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson fight will be postponed to a yet unknown date, due to Mike's health problems (ulcer flare-up) that prevent him from training for a few weeks.
More info here: https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/13146341/jake-paul-vs-mike-tyson-boxing-fight-postponed-with-new-date-expected-to-be-announced-in-early-june

According to the article Tyson has said: "My body is in better overall shape than it has been since the 1990s, and I will be back to my full training schedule soon", which, to me, indicates that he might be a bit deluded about himself and refuses to acknowledge that he's old and will never be anywhere near to where he was in his prime.

[Baofeng]

Bivol vs Zinad, - Bivol already won, round 6 stoppage. Kudos for Zinad for showing in this fight, but it was not enough, Bivol really pour everything in round 6 and it was just a mismatch. Although Zinad hit Bivol, it didn't have any effect on the Russian and he was really focus on this fight and still 100% of getting a good victory for the crowd.

Hopefully, Beterbiev's injury will be healed before the end of the year and so maybe we can see them fight in the last quarter of the year. Dubois against Hrgovic will be next so this is another great fight as it's going to be a make or break for either one of them in the HW division.

[bisdak40]

Bivol vs Zinad, - Bivol already won, round 6 stoppage. Kudos for Zinad for showing in this fight, but it was not enough, Bivol really pour everything in round 6 and it was just a mismatch. Although Zinad hit Bivol, it didn't have any effect on the Russian and he was really focus on this fight and still 100% of getting a good victory for the crowd.

Hopefully, Beterbiev's injury will be healed before the end of the year and so maybe we can see them fight in the last quarter of the year. Dubois against Hrgovic will be next so this is another great fight as it's going to be a make or break for either one of them in the HW division.

It's just unfortunate though that it was not Beterbiev we saw as the opponent of Bivol but fortunate enough to see Bivol getting the work done easily as a loss on this fight would mean the cancellation or derail his mega-fight with Beterbiev.

[pawel7777]

I think Zinad has gained a lot after that fight despite his first loss. I don't think many of us have ever heard about him before the fight was announced, so he gained a lot in terms of name recognition. I would imagine he got a payday of his lifetime, maybe enough to set him up for life, so he can't complain in this matter. In terms of performance, he didn't avoid exchanges and looked like he believed in his skills and was looking for a win rather than just to survive, that's what boxing fans like the most. And, he can always use the short notice as an excuse or blame the referee for premature stoppage as he didn't fall down etc.

But yeah, Bivol was just on another level and so it ended as expected. This was his first KO/TKO win since 2018.

[bisdak40]

I think Zinad has gained a lot after that fight despite his first loss. I don't think many of us have ever heard about him before the fight was announced, so he gained a lot in terms of name recognition. I would imagine he got a payday of his lifetime, maybe enough to set him up for life, so he can't complain in this matter. In terms of performance, he didn't avoid exchanges and looked like he believed in his skills and was looking for a win rather than just to survive, that's what boxing fans like the most. And, he can always use the short notice as an excuse or blame the referee for premature stoppage as he didn't fall down etc.

But yeah, Bivol was just on another level and so it ended as expected. This was his first KO/TKO win since 2018.

Yeah, first time for me to hear Zinad's name and you are right, his stocks soar up north after that Bivol fight as he is now more popular than before. His performance was not that ugly though he lost to the better man but that was expected as Bivol needs a sparring partner after that injury to Arthur.

[Baofeng]

And regarding Ryan Garcia's PED's used,

Supplement company fires back at Ryan Garcia's claim product contained banned substance.

The CEO said that they don't used Ostarine in their supplement. So it looks like the legal team of Ryan is trying to make them look like they are not telling the truth because they claim that they got that Ostarine from their supplements.

[bisdak40]

And regarding Ryan Garcia's PED's used,

Supplement company fires back at Ryan Garcia's claim product contained banned substance.

The CEO said that they don't used Ostarine in their supplement. So it looks like the legal team of Ryan is trying to make them look like they are not telling the truth because they claim that they got that Ostarine from their supplements.

So they've got to test the supplements now to back Ryan Garcia's claim that indeed their product contains the banned substance but i think it is written on the label what's the ingredients on that particular product.

Now that it is proven that Garcia was indeed using that PED, do the boxing commission declare that bout to a "no contest"?

[Baofeng]

And regarding Ryan Garcia's PED's used,

Supplement company fires back at Ryan Garcia's claim product contained banned substance.

The CEO said that they don't used Ostarine in their supplement. So it looks like the legal team of Ryan is trying to make them look like they are not telling the truth because they claim that they got that Ostarine from their supplements.

So they've got to test the supplements now to back Ryan Garcia's claim that indeed their product contains the banned substance but i think it is written on the label what's the ingredients on that particular product.

Now that it is proven that Garcia was indeed using that PED, do the boxing commission declare that bout to a "no contest"?

WBC says that they will look at it, and need more from Ryan Garcia. But in any case, if WBC uses VADA as a proof then most likely they might declare that fight as "no contest', but let's see.

The supplement company says that they don't used Ostarine so this could be the damaging statement that can really pin down Ryan as really taking PEDs here. Maybe this is the first time he used it, or mayeb cycling it to removed in his system prior to the fight. But this time, there are still traces found so they didn't cleanse his system or really caught by surprised by the VADA testing as usually it is unannounced drop to Ryan's house and he has not time to prepare because it's random visit.

[electronicash]

they can really revert those record?  damn! Ryan really hurt their pride.
i'm thinking whether the money won in this fight will also be returned? Ryan did bet for himself which he earned $12M.

and then there are also betting for the upset during that time. although i find it not reasonable i'd still be asking whether its possible bookmakers will just subtract the amount from their accounts now that the result will be "|No Contest"

[pawel7777]

The new date for the postponed Bivol Vs Beterbiev fight has been announced. It will happen on 12th October in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/announced-dmitry-bivol-vs-artur-beterbiev-on-october-12th-in-riyadh/278983

Hopefully that's enough time for Beterbiev to fully recover, resume trainings and show up fully prepared.