[Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread

[Kemarit]

I have read in social media that Ryan Garcia has reached a settlement with the NYSAC. He will be suspended for at least a year and will forfeit $1.1M of his official contract purse and in addition to that, his fight with Haney is ruled a "no-contest".

Don't have the official link on the above news but i think this is true.

Here's the link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2024/06/20/ryan-garcia-suspended-failed-drug-test-devin-haney-no-contest/74163795007/

The ruling is that the fight is considered a no-contest fight because of what happened, and I guess this is pretty fair knowing that Garcia broke the rules. He will be suspended for a year, but the fact that he said that he will retire, it doesn't matter to him "UNLESS" he's just trolling again with that retirement thing-y. As for Haney, I've seen some posts online saying that he will be out for 2 years to recover himself. With a title in his hand, I wonder what will happen to it especially now that it seems like WBC is ordering him to fight.

It is what it is, yeah it's one year suspension for Ryan Garcia, but I think he can handle it, he has so much money right now and not fight in a year and still have that deep pockets.

On the side of the Haney's they said that they are going to file cases for Ryan. I still don't know what the Haney's are still pursuing Ryan. Perhaps the humiliation that they got from Ryan, hehehe.

They should rematch after the suspension because that is going to be huge money again for sure.

Money-wise, Ryan Garcia has no problem with that at all because per report, he earned $30 million on that fight. He forfeited only $1.8 million so he still got a whooping $28 millions left on his pocket.

Though Haney's record was reverted back to no losses but the damaged has been done, he was exposed big time by Garcia, that maybe the reason why he still planning of suing the latter hehe.

It's not about the money, it's more on the damage that has been done by Garcia to the Haney's that's why they wanted to go and wanted to ban Ryan for more than a year and let him pay more. But it doesn't really look good for them, Devin has just work up from his "Dream" that he no longer has that 0 in his record although it was overturn to NC.

The fans have seen what Ryan did to him, embarassed in front of the boxing fans around the world, knockdown thrice and obviously losing to Ryan. That mental damage that the Haney's take in this one was too much. But I do agree that a rematch will create tons of money for the two and that should happen after the suspension.

[LogitechMouse]

There are talks that Davis will fight Loma next as there is an on going negotiation for that fight.

loma is well known to boxing sure this is a big money for both. i'm just skeptical that it would happen since loma is clearly at his disadvantage being the old man that he is. if he is just in his prime it might just be a neck and neck fight. but there is always room for money talks in every match.

its very hard to find someone to fight davis since it requires his opponent to be as popular as him to make millions. if he could go down to 122lbs, i think inoue would fill the stadium of more than 50k people.

With 36 years of age, I guess that might affect a bit, but aside from that, Tank's power and his intelligence when he's inside the ring is just at the highest level. I wonder why he doesn't want to fight Pitbull again based on the interview after his win against Frank Martin.

Against Inoue, I don't think it will happen because it's hard to go down from 135 - 122 lbs. As for Davis - Loma fight, I don't think that Loma has a chance to win TBH. Tank is just unstoppable to this moment, and I can't hardly think of any fighter on his division that can stop him.

[bisdak40]

It's not about the money, it's more on the damage that has been done by Garcia to the Haney's that's why they wanted to go and wanted to ban Ryan for more than a year and let him pay more. But it doesn't really look good for them, Devin has just work up from his "Dream" that he no longer has that 0 in his record although it was overturn to NC.

The fans have seen what Ryan did to him, embarassed in front of the boxing fans around the world, knockdown thrice and obviously losing to Ryan. That mental damage that the Haney's take in this one was too much. But I do agree that a rematch will create tons of money for the two and that should happen after the suspension.

Per report, Devin Haney is asking DAZN and Youtube to erase all the footage of that fight as if the fight did not happen. I think that was too much of them to ask that one. Even if the footage was erased, they can't deny that the boxing community already knows that Haney has a glass chin and got pillow punch hehe.

Haney got to rematch Garcia and win that one to regain the respect of the boxing community.

[electronicash]

It's not about the money, it's more on the damage that has been done by Garcia to the Haney's that's why they wanted to go and wanted to ban Ryan for more than a year and let him pay more. But it doesn't really look good for them, Devin has just work up from his "Dream" that he no longer has that 0 in his record although it was overturn to NC.

The fans have seen what Ryan did to him, embarassed in front of the boxing fans around the world, knockdown thrice and obviously losing to Ryan. That mental damage that the Haney's take in this one was too much. But I do agree that a rematch will create tons of money for the two and that should happen after the suspension.

Per report, Devin Haney is asking DAZN and Youtube to erase all the footage of that fight as if the fight did not happen. I think that was too much of them to ask that one. Even if the footage was erased, they can't deny that the boxing community already knows that Haney has a glass chin and got pillow punch hehe.

Haney got to rematch Garcia and win that one to regain the respect of the boxing community.

lol idk if this is really true. i only saw two articles about it, its insane. but i'm not goingto be surprise if its true though. the haneys been trying to nail ryan and taking his win from his pro record. ryan posted in his twitter saying he will file a case against them. his camp said there are have been many boxers proven to have been caught abusing PEDs but none of their wins were erased lie NC.

haney trying to erase his embarrassing knock downs from DAZN and on youtube is like erasing the past. this is kind of pdiddy level of narcissism.

[bisdak40]

lol idk if this is really true. i only saw two articles about it, its insane. but i'm not goingto be surprise if its true though. the haneys been trying to nail ryan and taking his win from his pro record. ryan posted in his twitter saying he will file a case against them. his camp said there are have been many boxers proven to have been caught abusing PEDs but none of their wins were erased lie NC.

haney trying to erase his embarrassing knock downs from DAZN and on youtube is like erasing the past. this is kind of pdiddy level of narcissism.

You are right, Haney just can't move on from that lose to Ryan Garcia, it has taken away so much of his confidence that he can't fight anymore which is a sign that he is a weak boxer. Have nothing against him but he is the one that needs counselling as his mental health might be the one was affected not Ryan's.

[Baofeng]

lol idk if this is really true. i only saw two articles about it, its insane. but i'm not goingto be surprise if its true though. the haneys been trying to nail ryan and taking his win from his pro record. ryan posted in his twitter saying he will file a case against them. his camp said there are have been many boxers proven to have been caught abusing PEDs but none of their wins were erased lie NC.

haney trying to erase his embarrassing knock downs from DAZN and on youtube is like erasing the past. this is kind of pdiddy level of narcissism.

You are right, Haney just can't move on from that lose to Ryan Garcia, it has taken away so much of his confidence that he can't fight anymore which is a sign that he is a weak boxer. Have nothing against him but he is the one that needs counselling as his mental health might be the one was affected not Ryan's.

And with that, he won't be fighting Sandor Martin, as Haney requested that he be a "Champion in Recess". So he won't be defending his belt for the meantime it will be Albert Puello relegated to a full champion status that will fight Sandor Martin.

https://www.ringtv.com/674610-devin-haney-named-champion-in-recess-wbc-orders-alberto-puello-sandor-martin/

They are still under going negotiation though but in less than 30 days we will find out if the plan are moving or it will go on another purse bid. Perhaps it was too much for Haney right now that he decided to just rest.

[LogitechMouse]

lol idk if this is really true. i only saw two articles about it, its insane. but i'm not goingto be surprise if its true though. the haneys been trying to nail ryan and taking his win from his pro record. ryan posted in his twitter saying he will file a case against them. his camp said there are have been many boxers proven to have been caught abusing PEDs but none of their wins were erased lie NC.

haney trying to erase his embarrassing knock downs from DAZN and on youtube is like erasing the past. this is kind of pdiddy level of narcissism.

You are right, Haney just can't move on from that lose to Ryan Garcia, it has taken away so much of his confidence that he can't fight anymore which is a sign that he is a weak boxer. Have nothing against him but he is the one that needs counselling as his mental health might be the one was affected not Ryan's.

And with that, he won't be fighting Sandor Martin, as Haney requested that he be a "Champion in Recess". So he won't be defending his belt for the meantime it will be Albert Puello relegated to a full champion status that will fight Sandor Martin.

https://www.ringtv.com/674610-devin-haney-named-champion-in-recess-wbc-orders-alberto-puello-sandor-martin/

They are still under going negotiation though but in less than 30 days we will find out if the plan are moving or it will go on another purse bid. Perhaps it was too much for Haney right now that he decided to just rest.

If I remember correctly, he already said it to the public that he will have a 2-year rest in boxing because of what happened to him. He said way earlier than Garcia's announcement on his social media accounts.

Anyway, I'm just curious what will happen to the belt that Haney is holding. I think WBC wants a mandatory fight between him and Martin, and with him having a rest, will not making the fight means vacating the title? Well, with what happened to both Haney and Garcia, and with all the controversies around them, they can't handle the pressure anymore thus, having a rest/retiring in the game would be their best option.

[electronicash]

both ryan and haney will be out of boxing then. these guys truly put all their careers aside because of that embarrassing fight lol

ryan was offered to fight in UFC afaik, if he does, it would be really be making a big change in his life. hes been beefing UFC fighters like Conor and Suga, these 2 for up for big pay if they can arrange Ryan for it. i think ryan could win against these two. they are not up to takedown like wrestlers which ryan will have his fair fight even i he goes to UFC after all he is suspended in boxing indefinitely.

[Baofeng]

both ryan and haney will be out of boxing then. these guys truly put all their careers aside because of that embarrassing fight lol

ryan was offered to fight in UFC afaik, if he does, it would be really be making a big change in his life. hes been beefing UFC fighters like Conor and Suga, these 2 for up for big pay if they can arrange Ryan for it. i think ryan could win against these two. they are not up to takedown like wrestlers which ryan will have his fair fight even i he goes to UFC after all he is suspended in boxing indefinitely.

That will be good, even Dana commented that Ryan might just be a victim of contamination and that he didn't take the performance enhancing drugs because we can clearly see that Ryan's power has been there with him.

As compare to Haney in which his chin is always suspected.

It will be good while Ryan is serving his suspension, maybe he can fight in the UFC. It will be one of the biggest fights if him and Conor can go in the ring, for sure fans are willing to buy that PPV and the trash talking to promote the fight is going to be huge, hehehe.

[LogitechMouse]

both ryan and haney will be out of boxing then. these guys truly put all their careers aside because of that embarrassing fight lol

ryan was offered to fight in UFC afaik, if he does, it would be really be making a big change in his life. hes been beefing UFC fighters like Conor and Suga, these 2 for up for big pay if they can arrange Ryan for it. i think ryan could win against these two. they are not up to takedown like wrestlers which ryan will have his fair fight even i he goes to UFC after all he is suspended in boxing indefinitely.

I doubt - especially for Garcia. I mean what will be they're doing after the suspension?
They said that they will retire or stop from fighting in the boxing ring out of frustration after what happened, but at some point, in the future, I still believe that both of them will return in the boxing ring to fight. It's their career, and of course their job as well.

Garcia in the UFC? I can't remember a boxer who switched professions and became a successful UFC fighter. I've seen UFC fighters fought in the boxing ring, and they all ended up losing very badly. I hope Ryan will not accept this offer because I don't think that he can stay long in the Octagon. He can fight for entertainment purposes only maybe, but to have a new career in UFC? Nah.

[electronicash]

both ryan and haney will be out of boxing then. these guys truly put all their careers aside because of that embarrassing fight lol

ryan was offered to fight in UFC afaik, if he does, it would be really be making a big change in his life. hes been beefing UFC fighters like Conor and Suga, these 2 for up for big pay if they can arrange Ryan for it. i think ryan could win against these two. they are not up to takedown like wrestlers which ryan will have his fair fight even i he goes to UFC after all he is suspended in boxing indefinitely.

I doubt - especially for Garcia. I mean what will be they're doing after the suspension?
They said that they will retire or stop from fighting in the boxing ring out of frustration after what happened, but at some point, in the future, I still believe that both of them will return in the boxing ring to fight. It's their career, and of course their job as well.

Garcia in the UFC? I can't remember a boxer who switched professions and became a successful UFC fighter. I've seen UFC fighters fought in the boxing ring, and they all ended up losing very badly. I hope Ryan will not accept this offer because I don't think that he can stay long in the Octagon. He can fight for entertainment purposes only maybe, but to have a new career in UFC? Nah.

WBC banned Ryan forever as far as i know. and i don't know if any of those boxing organization is willing to take him back after all the things he been saying while drunk. this time he won't get away with this N word, he messed up with the black community.  they make this a serious offense these days. The world gone mad already about the pronouns and he a tactless celeb.

anyway, Ryan will be accepted in UFC especially that he is famous, Dana will take care of him. recently Dan Ige show interest in fighting him as well. its still up to him though but he already expressed that he MAY.

[Baofeng]

both ryan and haney will be out of boxing then. these guys truly put all their careers aside because of that embarrassing fight lol

ryan was offered to fight in UFC afaik, if he does, it would be really be making a big change in his life. hes been beefing UFC fighters like Conor and Suga, these 2 for up for big pay if they can arrange Ryan for it. i think ryan could win against these two. they are not up to takedown like wrestlers which ryan will have his fair fight even i he goes to UFC after all he is suspended in boxing indefinitely.

I doubt - especially for Garcia. I mean what will be they're doing after the suspension?
They said that they will retire or stop from fighting in the boxing ring out of frustration after what happened, but at some point, in the future, I still believe that both of them will return in the boxing ring to fight. It's their career, and of course their job as well.

Garcia in the UFC? I can't remember a boxer who switched professions and became a successful UFC fighter. I've seen UFC fighters fought in the boxing ring, and they all ended up losing very badly. I hope Ryan will not accept this offer because I don't think that he can stay long in the Octagon. He can fight for entertainment purposes only maybe, but to have a new career in UFC? Nah.

WBC banned Ryan forever as far as i know. and i don't know if any of those boxing organization is willing to take him back after all the things he been saying while drunk. this time he won't get away with this N word, he messed up with the black community.  they make this a serious offense these days. The world gone mad already about the pronouns and he a tactless celeb.

anyway, Ryan will be accepted in UFC especially that he is famous, Dana will take care of him. recently Dan Ige show interest in fighting him as well. its still up to him though but he already expressed that he MAY.

If others are not aware of why Ryan was expelled from the WBC, it's because of Ryan's racial tirade in his social media post,



https://x.com/wbcmoro/status/1808998644127051947

So now, it could be a combination of substance abuse (alcohol and drugs) that really push him to the brink of his mental issues again. So sorry that he had to be this way though and as if no one has been helping him.

[LogitechMouse]

both ryan and haney will be out of boxing then. these guys truly put all their careers aside because of that embarrassing fight lol

ryan was offered to fight in UFC afaik, if he does, it would be really be making a big change in his life. hes been beefing UFC fighters like Conor and Suga, these 2 for up for big pay if they can arrange Ryan for it. i think ryan could win against these two. they are not up to takedown like wrestlers which ryan will have his fair fight even i he goes to UFC after all he is suspended in boxing indefinitely.

I doubt - especially for Garcia. I mean what will be they're doing after the suspension?
They said that they will retire or stop from fighting in the boxing ring out of frustration after what happened, but at some point, in the future, I still believe that both of them will return in the boxing ring to fight. It's their career, and of course their job as well.

Garcia in the UFC? I can't remember a boxer who switched professions and became a successful UFC fighter. I've seen UFC fighters fought in the boxing ring, and they all ended up losing very badly. I hope Ryan will not accept this offer because I don't think that he can stay long in the Octagon. He can fight for entertainment purposes only maybe, but to have a new career in UFC? Nah.

WBC banned Ryan forever as far as i know. and i don't know if any of those boxing organization is willing to take him back after all the things he been saying while drunk. this time he won't get away with this N word, he messed up with the black community.  they make this a serious offense these days. The world gone mad already about the pronouns and he a tactless celeb.

anyway, Ryan will be accepted in UFC especially that he is famous, Dana will take care of him. recently Dan Ige show interest in fighting him as well. its still up to him though but he already expressed that he MAY.

If others are not aware of why Ryan was expelled from the WBC, it's because of Ryan's racial tirade in his social media post,
~
https://x.com/wbcmoro/status/1808998644127051947

So now, it could be a combination of substance abuse (alcohol and drugs) that really push him to the brink of his mental issues again. So sorry that he had to be this way though and as if no one has been helping him.

Oh, thanks for the reminder @electronicash and @Baofeng.
I'm a bit late with those racial comments that he did on social media then.

Well, I guess this actions that he made further amplifies what he said regarding him retiring for boxing forever then. He doesn't want to return maybe that's why he did this. Like what others are thinking, I feel sorry and sad for him because he's one of the greatest boxers in his division and at one point, many are talking about him because of what he done in the ring. Now he's been talking because of these kinds of actions that he's done, and all of those trollings he made online. From one of the best to now banned forever.

Mental health issues sure is a thing folks. As for him going to UFC, I guess we might see it, but he must go to a rehab center first.

[Kemarit]

On the fight between Shakur Stevenson vs. Artem Harutyunyan. Shakur Stevenson won via a one lopsided decision again, 119-109, 118-110 and 116-112. However, the fans who bought ticket to watch the fight live was not very happy with it, and this fight Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey, hometown of Shakur. But it didn't stop the fans from "booing" after the winner has announced and that their local hero won. It was expected of Shakur's fight, very boring as he didn't deliver any knockout performance here as he decided to just control the fight from the distance and his style was not appreciated by his own fans.

[bisdak40]

On the fight between Shakur Stevenson vs. Artem Harutyunyan. Shakur Stevenson won via a one lopsided decision again, 119-109, 118-110 and 116-112. However, the fans who bought ticket to watch the fight live was not very happy with it, and this fight Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey, hometown of Shakur. But it didn't stop the fans from "booing" after the winner has announced and that their local hero won. It was expected of Shakur's fight, very boring as he didn't deliver any knockout performance here as he decided to just control the fight from the distance and his style was not appreciated by his own fans.

Yeah, I couldn't agree more with you mate that indeed it was a very boring fight and to be honest i fell asleep while watching the fight live on YouTube. I would not be surprised if that was his last fight with Top Rank and Bob Arum would not re-sign him anymore as Bob has been very vocal ever since about Shakur's boring style of fight.