[Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread

[Baofeng]

And Jaime Munguia is back at the win column, win a knockout win against Erik Bazinyan. And as expected, in the beginning, both are trying to test each other's distance, but Munguia is the more accurate and target Bazinyan body.

It really soften him up in the later rounds as he has no more gas tank while Munguia continue to press on, until he caught Erik. Take note that Munguia's trainer is the former champion, Erik Morales.

It's expected that Munguia will win against Bazinyan, just a matter of what rounds he will win. But give credit to Bazinyan as well, as he also give Munguia a good fight specially his counter in which Munguia was not comfortable and there are rounds that Bazinyan won to be honest.

But I guess Munguia is too good for Bazinyan, and with his new coach and trainer and a new promoter, it's just about time for Munguia to be in the discussion again as the new face of boxing.

[pawel7777]

Damn, Dubois absolutely destroyed AJ last night at Wembley, in front of almost 100k fans, and retained his IBF belt.
Joshua got knocked down in round one and continued to get the beatings until the referee stopped it in round 5.
Honestly, did anyone expect the fight to go that way? AJ was a massive favourite. Media are already speculating on whether AJ has any future or if this is it for him.

Any thoughts on what's next for both of them?

Here are some 3 minutes fight highlights for those who haven't seen it:

[Baofeng]

Damn, I missed this fight, I was literally caught sleeping, Lol, as I forget to bet on this one as I was looking for Dubois to win by knockout. Another missed opportunity, 

In any case, it's forthcoming, leading up to the fight, you can see the Dubois is no pushover and will not be bullied by AJ in the pre-fight. And it translate in the fight itself as Dubois goes for head hunting early.

So congrats to those who bet on Dubois to win by ML as he was a huge favorite and by knockout as well.

[Zed0X]

^ I didn't even know AJ had an upcoming fight Anyway, his loss to Dubois is almost similar to his loss to Ruiz. He sensed blood after a good punch and went for a finish but he ended up the one being finished instead. He'll most likely get an instant rematch after this but with a lower payday.

[Kemarit]

^ I didn't even know AJ had an upcoming fight Anyway, his loss to Dubois is almost similar to his loss to Ruiz. He sensed blood after a good punch and went for a finish but he ended up the one being finished instead. He'll most likely get an instant rematch after this but with a lower payday.

Yes, I think everyone will agree that it's a very similar loss to Andy Ruiz. And as AJ's chin is broken already and he has been exposed to have a China chin, Dubois just target it in the fight and it's just a matter of time before he time AJ's chin with a big punch and that's what happen in round 5.

Yeah, that's what I heard as well that there will be a rematch, so let's see if AJ can adjust. Others have been saying that it's time for AJ to quit, as either Usyk or Fury will end his career if he wanted to face the winner of that fight.

[Bhigdaddyjr]

^ I didn't even know AJ had an upcoming fight Anyway, his loss to Dubois is almost similar to his loss to Ruiz. He sensed blood after a good punch and went for a finish but he ended up the one being finished instead. He'll most likely get an instant rematch after this but with a lower payday.

A rampaging Dubois floored Joshua three times before sending him tumbling to the mat for a third time in the fifth round, when he was ruled out to complete an incredible defeat at Wembley Stadium. When comparing Joshua's performance to the previous world champion's stoppage loss against Andy Ruiz Jr. in New York in 2019, Sky Sports analyst Nelson criticized Joshua's strategies.

[electronicash]

^ I didn't even know AJ had an upcoming fight Anyway, his loss to Dubois is almost similar to his loss to Ruiz. He sensed blood after a good punch and went for a finish but he ended up the one being finished instead. He'll most likely get an instant rematch after this but with a lower payday.

we don't have a particular thread here  but the thread in BTT started by JollyGood has a date along with it. its hard to miss when you see it. it has a poll where AJ is the crowd's favorite. well they are in for a surprise to see AJ struggle to get up even in the first hit to his jaw.

i saw the thread yesterday but i didn't remember to bet and i'm glad i didn't because i'm one of those who also expect AJ to win. there's just a lot of things that could make a boxing fan favor AJ and he is good looking 

[JoyMarsha]

Damn, Dubois absolutely destroyed AJ last night at Wembley, in front of almost 100k fans, and retained his IBF belt.
Joshua got knocked down in round one and continued to get the beatings until the referee stopped it in round 5.
Honestly, did anyone expect the fight to go that way? AJ was a massive favourite. Media are already speculating on whether AJ has any future or if this is it for him.

Any thoughts on what's next for both of them?

Here are some 3 minutes fight highlights for those who haven't seen it:

The fate of Anthony Joshua to remain in WBF is being questioned as to what next for him because the idea what for him to win Dubious, to face Usyk or Tyson Fury in whosever wins their December.

Now Anthony Joshua has lost to Dubious, he's now faced with a huge task to get his career back on track. However, Let's see what the future holds for him because, to him, it's not over yet. He wants to have more fights

[bisdak40]

Damn, I missed this fight, I was literally caught sleeping, Lol, as I forget to bet on this one as I was looking for Dubois to win by knockout. Another missed opportunity, 

In any case, it's forthcoming, leading up to the fight, you can see the Dubois is no pushover and will not be bullied by AJ in the pre-fight. And it translate in the fight itself as Dubois goes for head hunting early.

So congrats to those who bet on Dubois to win by ML as he was a huge favorite and by knockout as well.

Same here, I completely forgot about this fight since no one discussed it or made a thread on this forum. If I had placed a bet, I probably would have lost because I would have backed Anthony Joshua to win, either by decision or knockout, depending on the attractive odds.

I think AJ should retire, as a rematch would yield the same result. In my opinion, his boxing career is over.

[target]

^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.

AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.

[Zed0X]

It might actually be a smart move for AJ to retire early while he is still considered one of the top guys in the division. I think he is quickly losing his chin just as we saw in the multiple knockdowns against Dubois. Maybe he'll think about it after he suffers another KO/TKO loss in the rematch.

[bisdak40]

^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.

AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.

I agree that he is too young to retire, but I’m uncertain if he can bounce back from this brutal loss to Daniel Dubois. I vividly recall his rematch with Ruiz; although he won, it seemed his confidence hadn’t fully returned. If they activate the rematch clause, I believe the outcome will be the same. Just my two cents.

[Jating]

^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.

AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.

What do you mean young? AJ is already 35 years old and with a lot of wear and tear, and his chin easily to crack, I don't know how long can he hold himself in this sports. If he will be around 30 years old, then he could have a lot of years ahead of him, just like when he lost to Andy Ruiz, he was able to bounce back.

But losing to Usyk and then again him kissing the canvass for 4-5 times in a given fight, against a very young fighter in Dubois, I he has slowly sliding down and could be in the sunset of his career.

[target]

^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.

AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.

What do you mean young? AJ is already 35 years old and with a lot of wear and tear, and his chin easily to crack, I don't know how long can he hold himself in this sports. If he will be around 30 years old, then he could have a lot of years ahead of him, just like when he lost to Andy Ruiz, he was able to bounce back.

But losing to Usyk and then again him kissing the canvass for 4-5 times in a given fight, against a very young fighter in Dubois, I he has slowly sliding down and could be in the sunset of his career.

They box for a living, what other options do they have?  He doesn't need to be a champ again but just continue fighting and hope something good will come up like Zhang who is more than 40. Zhang is one hell of a giant Chinese boxer who made it to the top.

AJ is not broken. He overcome the blow after Ruiz and did it again after the loss against Usyk.

[Jating]

^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.

AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.

What do you mean young? AJ is already 35 years old and with a lot of wear and tear, and his chin easily to crack, I don't know how long can he hold himself in this sports. If he will be around 30 years old, then he could have a lot of years ahead of him, just like when he lost to Andy Ruiz, he was able to bounce back.

But losing to Usyk and then again him kissing the canvass for 4-5 times in a given fight, against a very young fighter in Dubois, I he has slowly sliding down and could be in the sunset of his career.

They box for a living, what other options do they have?  He doesn't need to be a champ again but just continue fighting and hope something good will come up like Zhang who is more than 40. Zhang is one hell of a giant Chinese boxer who made it to the top.

AJ is not broken. He overcome the blow after Ruiz and did it again after the loss against Usyk.

Well we can only say that he is not broken, but as you can see, this lost has cost him some good money in the future, like a potential fight with Fury or even a 3rd fight with Usyk.

So in my opinion, he is broken here, leading up to the fight, you will thought that he already won by the way he attack Dubois. Zhang is different case though, he become a contender in his late age, as compare to AJ who started very young and then lost to Ruiz, yeah for sure he was able to comeback, but against Usyk? You can see that he had mental breakdown when Usyk was announced as a winner.

They try to rebuild him by cherry picking opponents to gain his confidence back. But here, he is 35 years old, a lot of wear and tear, and his chin doesn't hold against a top puncher. And it will be very dangerous for him to go for a immediate rematch as it might end his career for good.