[Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread

[Kemarit]

It will still be a good fight, Chocolatito has been in top of his game for many years though, so we all know that he could not be in his prime already although he could still pull the trigger.

But I don't want to see him getting knock the f**k out. I want the fight to last for full 12 rounds and it should be a war. Like Estrada vs Chocolatito before, they are rivals and deliver one of the best fights in this division for many years.

Yeah, Chocolatito is a veteran but in his 4 losses, he was only defeated by two boxers, Juan Francisco Estrada and Wisaksil Wangek but the most unforgetable fight for me involving Chocolatito was his trilogy with Estrada.

Yes, no one will forget that trilogy between rivals Estrada vs Gonzalez. But in the end it was Estrada who remain on top and beat Chocolatito, but now it could be the other way around as Estrada could be the older fighter vs Bam who is just barely 24 years old.

If Bam Rodriguez will defeat Chocolatito then it another feather to his cap and i think that is very possible since the latter is clearly not on his prime.

Either one or better yet, he beat the two of them, it will really cemented his legacy at this division. And maybe he should go for unification before eh moves up in weight class.

[Baofeng]

Results of the fight this weekend.

Paro vs Hitchins - Hitchins pull a upset as he beat the champion Liam Paro by a decision, the scores were 117-111 (Paro), 116-112 (Hitchins), and 116-112 (Hitchins). Now he aim for a fight with Teo Lopez to unify belts.

As expected, it was a war between Navarette and Oscar Valdez again. But Navarette prevail as he battered Valdez in their rematch. Navarette score multiple knockdowns and so it's clear that Navarette being the bigger man and finishes off Oscar Valdez faster this time.

Ramirez says no mas against Ramirez in their own version of the rematch. He was complaining that Ramirez elbow him, and yeah, watching the fight, I saw some elbow in round 4. So he quit because he can't see or had double vision.

[bisdak40]

Results of the fight this weekend.

Paro vs Hitchins - Hitchins pull a upset as he beat the champion Liam Paro by a decision, the scores were 117-111 (Paro), 116-112 (Hitchins), and 116-112 (Hitchins). Now he aim for a fight with Teo Lopez to unify belts.

As expected, it was a war between Navarette and Oscar Valdez again. But Navarette prevail as he battered Valdez in their rematch. Navarette score multiple knockdowns and so it's clear that Navarette being the bigger man and finishes off Oscar Valdez faster this time.

Ramirez says no mas against Ramirez in their own version of the rematch. He was complaining that Ramirez elbow him, and yeah, watching the fight, I saw some elbow in round 4. So he quit because he can't see or had double vision.

Of the three fights, i'm a bit surprised on why Ramirez quit against Espinoza. There might be some elbows but i think that was accidental and it could happen in boxing so he had to adjust. He was leading on the unofficial scorecards, i think he could have won the fight if he continued.

As for the Valdez vs Navarette fight, i think the latter is just too much for Oscar Valdez. The volume of punches that Navarette threw was too much for him to avoid but kudos to him for fighting till the end.

[pieppiep]

Results of the fight this weekend.

Paro vs Hitchins - Hitchins pull a upset as he beat the champion Liam Paro by a decision, the scores were 117-111 (Paro), 116-112 (Hitchins), and 116-112 (Hitchins). Now he aim for a fight with Teo Lopez to unify belts.

As expected, it was a war between Navarette and Oscar Valdez again. But Navarette prevail as he battered Valdez in their rematch. Navarette score multiple knockdowns and so it's clear that Navarette being the bigger man and finishes off Oscar Valdez faster this time.

Ramirez says no mas against Ramirez in their own version of the rematch. He was complaining that Ramirez elbow him, and yeah, watching the fight, I saw some elbow in round 4. So he quit because he can't see or had double vision.

Of the three fights, i'm a bit surprised on why Ramirez quit against Espinoza. There might be some elbows but i think that was accidental and it could happen in boxing so he had to adjust. He was leading on the unofficial scorecards, i think he could have won the fight if he continued.

As for the Valdez vs Navarette fight, i think the latter is just too much for Oscar Valdez. The volume of punches that Navarette threw was too much for him to avoid but kudos to him for fighting till the end.

Each fight contains important experience that can help us learn something new about strategy and persistance in this type of fighting sport. When a boxer is in trouble inside the boxing ring, it’s the ability to remain calm & continue to try for a chance to create a winning vision.

Everybody understands that in boxing, like elbows or some physical impact, influence the further outcome of the fight, but desire to continue does provide great hope. Power and the desire to push to the following round, till the last knock out count is another feature which is inspiring for fighter and the enthusiasts. That is why our support for fighters allows them to further develop their combat training and maintain the spirit of the fighter in the future.

[Baofeng]

Results of the fight this weekend.

Paro vs Hitchins - Hitchins pull a upset as he beat the champion Liam Paro by a decision, the scores were 117-111 (Paro), 116-112 (Hitchins), and 116-112 (Hitchins). Now he aim for a fight with Teo Lopez to unify belts.

As expected, it was a war between Navarette and Oscar Valdez again. But Navarette prevail as he battered Valdez in their rematch. Navarette score multiple knockdowns and so it's clear that Navarette being the bigger man and finishes off Oscar Valdez faster this time.

Ramirez says no mas against Ramirez in their own version of the rematch. He was complaining that Ramirez elbow him, and yeah, watching the fight, I saw some elbow in round 4. So he quit because he can't see or had double vision.

Of the three fights, i'm a bit surprised on why Ramirez quit against Espinoza. There might be some elbows but i think that was accidental and it could happen in boxing so he had to adjust. He was leading on the unofficial scorecards, i think he could have won the fight if he continued.

I think Ramirez could have been suffering from double vision already, and so when Espinoza elbowed him, he somewhat felt that his eyes could be damage if he continue to fight. Nevertheless, he is a Cuban so what do we expect? If this is a Mexican, maybe he wouldn't quit and beaten  as they are warriors. While Cuban has history of quitting like Rigo against Loma.

As for the Valdez vs Navarette fight, i think the latter is just too much for Oscar Valdez. The volume of punches that Navarette threw was too much for him to avoid but kudos to him for fighting till the end.

The volume and the accuracy as well, he scored two knock downs against Valdez in this fight. And he was just too big for Valdez, and again, Oscar has been in such wars in his career that his body is really deteriorating in his every fight.

[bisdak40]

As for the Valdez vs Navarette fight, i think the latter is just too much for Oscar Valdez. The volume of punches that Navarette threw was too much for him to avoid but kudos to him for fighting till the end.

The volume and the accuracy as well, he scored two knock downs against Valdez in this fight. And he was just too big for Valdez, and again, Oscar has been in such wars in his career that his body is really deteriorating in his every fight.

Yeah, Navarette is too good and too big for Oscar Valdez to defeat. Maybe it is time now for Oscar to retire as his body has taken its toll on the years of banging or he could fight a non popular boxer which i think is not good for his career.

I hope that Onoue could go up to the 130-lb division and fight Navarette, this could be an interesting fight in the career of Inoue.

[Baofeng]

As for the Valdez vs Navarette fight, i think the latter is just too much for Oscar Valdez. The volume of punches that Navarette threw was too much for him to avoid but kudos to him for fighting till the end.

The volume and the accuracy as well, he scored two knock downs against Valdez in this fight. And he was just too big for Valdez, and again, Oscar has been in such wars in his career that his body is really deteriorating in his every fight.

Yeah, Navarette is too good and too big for Oscar Valdez to defeat. Maybe it is time now for Oscar to retire as his body has taken its toll on the years of banging or he could fight a non popular boxer which i think is not good for his career.

That's what I'm also seeing in Oscar Valdez, his body might be showing signs that he might not be in his prime. Well, he can still fight boxers that are not contender or champion. Because if he do on his next couple of fights, he might take damage again.

I hope that Onoue could go up to the 130-lb division and fight Navarette, this could be an interesting fight in the career of Inoue.

I don't think that Navarette can stay at 130-lbs division, and then Inoue hasn't move up to 126-lbs although there is news that he will be doing that exactly next year.

[Kemarit]

As for the Valdez vs Navarette fight, i think the latter is just too much for Oscar Valdez. The volume of punches that Navarette threw was too much for him to avoid but kudos to him for fighting till the end.

The volume and the accuracy as well, he scored two knock downs against Valdez in this fight. And he was just too big for Valdez, and again, Oscar has been in such wars in his career that his body is really deteriorating in his every fight.

Yeah, Navarette is too good and too big for Oscar Valdez to defeat. Maybe it is time now for Oscar to retire as his body has taken its toll on the years of banging or he could fight a non popular boxer which i think is not good for his career.

I'm not seeing Oscar Valdez retiring, he is too proud of a Mexican heritage to return despite the war that he had been throughout his career. I think there are still like 2-3 good fight in him before hanging the gloves.

I hope that Onoue could go up to the 130-lb division and fight Navarette, this could be an interesting fight in the career of Inoue.

It depends on Inoue, let see first if he can go up against the best of 126 lbs when he moves up next year. There are a lot of bigger names as well in the 126 lbs that Inoue will first need to conquer.

[target]

Inoue has to fight at least someone popular and in Las  Vegas because to test whether he can fill the arena.  Its already hurting the profit when Saudi and Japan keeps promoting fights in their country.

Seeing Inoue going to make sales in US thats when they can decide to move up to find boxers to fight in US. Arum/Hearn doesn't have the leverage to make it somewhere else but in Japan for now.

[Baofeng]

Murodjon Akhmadaliev and Ricardo Espinoza fight, here is the official weigh-in,



Both make the weight-in, Murodjon Akhmadaliev (121lbs) vs Ricardo Espinoza Franco (121.6lbs).

So let's see if MJ Akhmadaliev can get back into the picture in the super bantamweight division. It's not that Inoue doesn't want to fight or has duck him, it's that Inoue has better plans and that he will be fighting in the US next year.

And with that, if he vacated the belt, Akhmadaliev might be another fighting that will be given the chance since he is a former champion. So this is a test that he needs to pass in order to be in the contention next year.

[Jating]

Inoue has to fight at least someone popular and in Las  Vegas because to test whether he can fill the arena.  Its already hurting the profit when Saudi and Japan keeps promoting fights in their country.

Yes, but as the saying goes, it takes two to tango. Meaning it's not that only Inoue will fill the arena, but it also depends on who he is going to face as opponents. If it is a champion, then definitely, everyone will be interested to see him.

Seeing Inoue going to make sales in US thats when they can decide to move up to find boxers to fight in US. Arum/Hearn doesn't have the leverage to make it somewhere else but in Japan for now.

They still have the leverage as Inoue has built his reputation already. Just to remind you, he had fights in the US already when he won the WBSS (World Bantamweight Super Series), so his names proceeds with such standing already. But US fans want to see him more and fight their as US is still the center of boxing.

[Baofeng]

I don't know if we have a separate thread about this fight,

And during their media workout, Benavidez pushes Morrell,



So fight is definitely on, as Benavidez added more fuel to a already heated fight. And Morrell throwing his belt in return though, Lol, that's crazy. But as fans, we love this kind of animosity.

That's what bring fans to watch this fight live as we are all interested and hype.  

[Baofeng]

I will just put this one here,

Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney on the brink of a deal for trilogy series

The fighters have already signed off on a non-binding memo of deal points crafted by Saudi Arabia’s events company Sela.

The top priority to move things forward now is for Garcia to enroll in a more than year-long comprehensive drug testing program supervised by an agency he has often criticized, the Nevada-based Voluntary Anti-Doping Association.

Believing that Garcia will do so, Haney had his attorney move Wednesday to put a 90-day hold on Haney’s multi-million-dollar lawsuit against Garcia that alleged battery, among other claims, connected to the dispute over their prior bout.

So not just for the rematch, but they are talking about a possible third fight.

There is a condition though, but if they really wanted to settle their differences inside the ring and at the same time makes a lot of money because again, the powerful Saudi broker will be in the middle, then this fight is going to be made this year.

[bisdak40]

I will just put this one here,

Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney on the brink of a deal for trilogy series

The fighters have already signed off on a non-binding memo of deal points crafted by Saudi Arabia’s events company Sela.

The top priority to move things forward now is for Garcia to enroll in a more than year-long comprehensive drug testing program supervised by an agency he has often criticized, the Nevada-based Voluntary Anti-Doping Association.

Believing that Garcia will do so, Haney had his attorney move Wednesday to put a 90-day hold on Haney’s multi-million-dollar lawsuit against Garcia that alleged battery, among other claims, connected to the dispute over their prior bout.

So not just for the rematch, but they are talking about a possible third fight.

There is a condition though, but if they really wanted to settle their differences inside the ring and at the same time makes a lot of money because again, the powerful Saudi broker will be in the middle, then this fight is going to be made this year.

If this plan goes through, it would be a great move by Devin Haney to redeem his career. Not only would they settle their differences in the ring, but they could also make a lot of money. It would be interesting if Haney won the second fight, leading to a trilogy. However, I have a feeling that Garcia would punish Haney, as he already knows how to beat him.

[Baofeng]

I will just put this one here,

Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney on the brink of a deal for trilogy series

The fighters have already signed off on a non-binding memo of deal points crafted by Saudi Arabia’s events company Sela.

The top priority to move things forward now is for Garcia to enroll in a more than year-long comprehensive drug testing program supervised by an agency he has often criticized, the Nevada-based Voluntary Anti-Doping Association.

Believing that Garcia will do so, Haney had his attorney move Wednesday to put a 90-day hold on Haney’s multi-million-dollar lawsuit against Garcia that alleged battery, among other claims, connected to the dispute over their prior bout.

So not just for the rematch, but they are talking about a possible third fight.

There is a condition though, but if they really wanted to settle their differences inside the ring and at the same time makes a lot of money because again, the powerful Saudi broker will be in the middle, then this fight is going to be made this year.

If this plan goes through, it would be a great move by Devin Haney to redeem his career. Not only would they settle their differences in the ring, but they could also make a lot of money. It would be interesting if Haney won the second fight, leading to a trilogy. However, I have a feeling that Garcia would punish Haney, as he already knows how to beat him.

Probably signing a trilogy is just an insurance from both sides and HE Turki himself.

So I'm exciting to see the rematch and for sure majority of the boxing fans. But I would agree that it will end up the same or worst for Haney. As Devin style is really suited up for Garcia.

He is really open up for that left hook, and once it land again, he is going down in the canvass and this time he might not beat the 10 count.