[Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread

[bisdak40]

Tank looks very different there, there's no swag in there, and maybe he was really complacent and might have taken this fight lightly. I don't know though if in the rematch Roach can win as Tank might fight and prepare this fight very differently.

So this is the first time that Tank looks vulnerable and I will say that we also underestimate Roach and the judges screw him up and make this fight a draw when it seems very clear that there is a knockdown scored by Lamont but the referee suddenly change that.

Tank's loss would have been a big financial loss also for the guys used to see Tank win a fight. They know they are losing it when they watched it live and Tank not able to knockdown Roach. And instead Tank almost surrender by kneeling which should have been counted as knock down.

When they the result is controversial I alraedy think Tank must have been in trouble so I look it up on youtube and upon reading the comments they are in rage.

If that "taking a knee" thing was ruled as a knockdown, it could have been a win for Lamont Roach. Idiotic move for Tank Davis which could have cost him the title. If we are to base the judgement on total punches thrown and landed, Roach won that category slightly but i don't know what the judges are looking that they are favoring Davis more on this fight.

[pawel7777]

It's all over the media today:
Dana White and Turki Alalshikh announce new boxing league
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/dana-white-turki-alalshikh-new-boxing-league-b2709626.html

Given Dana White's experience and Alalshikh's super deep pockets, this could be a big thing that has the potential of changing the old boxing scene as we know it. More details to be announced later, but it looks like they intend to create a league-style competition. I'm having a hard time imagining the top boxers would be excited by that idea, as it would probably mean having to fight more often.

[LogitechMouse]

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If that "taking a knee" thing was ruled as a knockdown, it could have been a win for Lamont Roach. Idiotic move for Tank Davis which could have cost him the title. If we are to base the judgement on total punches thrown and landed, Roach won that category slightly but i don't know what the judges are looking that they are favoring Davis more on this fight.

I wonder how much they paid for the referees and those idiot judges as well.
I smell a rematch between these 2 boxers.

Many didn't expect how the match will end up. With how dominating Tank is in his previous fights, many expected that it will be the same with Roach, and I also saw on a gambling website that the odds of Roach winning is at around 10.xx. That's how big of an underdog he is before the fight. For sure, many boxing fans will respect Roach now for what happened. I didn't watch those analysts with regards to their opinion to this fight, but I'm pretty sure, even they also now that Roach won on that fight.

[target]

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If that "taking a knee" thing was ruled as a knockdown, it could have been a win for Lamont Roach. Idiotic move for Tank Davis which could have cost him the title. If we are to base the judgement on total punches thrown and landed, Roach won that category slightly but i don't know what the judges are looking that they are favoring Davis more on this fight.

I wonder how much they paid for the referees and those idiot judges as well.
I smell a rematch between these 2 boxers.

Many didn't expect how the match will end up. With how dominating Tank is in his previous fights, many expected that it will be the same with Roach, and I also saw on a gambling website that the odds of Roach winning is at around 10.xx. That's how big of an underdog he is before the fight. For sure, many boxing fans will respect Roach now for what happened. I didn't watch those analysts with regards to their opinion to this fight, but I'm pretty sure, even they also now that Roach won on that fight.

Its not an idiotic move, he was hurt. We have seen it several times that a fighter is punched in the side the liver can be a painful as your knee hitting a corner of the table. its unbearable.

Some referee will even consider this as if he surrenders already. Of course Tank after a milli second realizes his belt is at stake as him being undisputed is over.

[Baofeng]

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If that "taking a knee" thing was ruled as a knockdown, it could have been a win for Lamont Roach. Idiotic move for Tank Davis which could have cost him the title. If we are to base the judgement on total punches thrown and landed, Roach won that category slightly but i don't know what the judges are looking that they are favoring Davis more on this fight.

I wonder how much they paid for the referees and those idiot judges as well.
I smell a rematch between these 2 boxers.

Many didn't expect how the match will end up. With how dominating Tank is in his previous fights, many expected that it will be the same with Roach, and I also saw on a gambling website that the odds of Roach winning is at around 10.xx. That's how big of an underdog he is before the fight. For sure, many boxing fans will respect Roach now for what happened. I didn't watch those analysts with regards to their opinion to this fight, but I'm pretty sure, even they also now that Roach won on that fight.

I think it's more of a mistake on the part of the referee and this is what WBA has to say,

From our perspective, Willis’ decision was not unreasonable or unjustifiable. He ruled in real-time that Davis had not been struck by a punch before going down, and therefore, no knockdown should be recorded. Judges, by regulation, must follow the referee’s rulings—they do not have the authority to override his decisions on knockdowns.

Some skeptics have suggested that Willis’ call benefited Davis unfairly, but we do not subscribe to that notion. In our long experience judging fights, we see no evidence of favoritism—only a referee prioritizing the physical safety of a fighter who appeared compromised by an eye injury.

THE NEXT STEP: A REMATCH?

One thing is clear: the boxing world is already clamoring for Gervonta Davis vs. Lamont Roach II. The controversy, the drama, and the high stakes demand a sequel. Now, it’s up to the promoters to make it happen.

https://www.wbaboxing.com/boxing-news/davis-retains-wba-crown-with-a-draw-and-a-rematch-looms

It's weird though, I just posted this link on the other community and it seems working. But now when I try to link it, it was deleted?

Lol, something is fishy here. Good that it has been in Twitter as well: https://x.com/ringmagazine/status/1897232925227135298

[bisdak40]

Its not an idiotic move, he was hurt. We have seen it several times that a fighter is punched in the side the liver can be a painful as your knee hitting a corner of the table. its unbearable.

Some referee will even consider this as if he surrenders already. Of course Tank after a milli second realizes his belt is at stake as him being undisputed is over.

I would say that Tank Davis’s focus on the fight was not at 100 percent. If he had been more focused, he wouldn’t have done that ‘knee thing’ that could have cost him his title. Even if his eyes were irritated, he should have waited for the bell to sound before wiping off the grease he claimed was causing him trouble.

[target]

Its not an idiotic move, he was hurt. We have seen it several times that a fighter is punched in the side the liver can be a painful as your knee hitting a corner of the table. its unbearable.

Some referee will even consider this as if he surrenders already. Of course Tank after a milli second realizes his belt is at stake as him being undisputed is over.

I would say that Tank Davis’s focus on the fight was not at 100 percent. If he had been more focused, he wouldn’t have done that ‘knee thing’ that could have cost him his title. Even if his eyes were irritated, he should have waited for the bell to sound before wiping off the grease he claimed was causing him trouble.

Wiping the grease off is just an excuse. He been in boxing for years, it happens all the time since their corners wipe grease on their eye browse. He knows the rules which kneeling is considered a knock down, even touching the ground is considered a knock down.

If it were Ryan Garcia kneeling, the referee would give him 8 counts. But then anyway, the fight is over and its decided NC so at least none will even feel complaining and they both get the money they fought for. They will also get a sum in their rematch.

[Baofeng]

Latest news on the Davis vs Roach fight,

The New York State Athletic Commission has decided not to alter the draw between WBA lightweight champion Gervonta “Tank” Davis and super-featherweight champion Lamont Roach, individuals connected to both fighters told BoxingScene Friday.

Roach appealed to the commission to reconsider the 115-113, 114-114, 114-114 scorecards following the human errors committed by referee Steve Willis in the ninth round of Saturday’s bout at New York’s Barclays Center.

Washington’s Roach had landed a handful of blows on Baltimore’s unbeaten three-division champion Davis when Davis turned away from the action to take a knee, then walked to his corner, where co-trainer Calvin Ford wiped his face.

Davis, 30-0-1 (28 KOs), said his eyes stung from a hair chemical that was applied two days earlier.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-lamont-roach-to-remain-a-draw-as-nysac-declines-to-overturn-decision--205765

So I guess there's nothing more Roach can do on his side, but to rematch Tank Davis. Although Tank said he want to run it again, but we will have to wait as I don't see it happening as an immediate rematch.

It's just hard for Roach and his team to be taken away that victory because of the miscall by the referee but they will have to live with it.

[Kemarit]

Its not an idiotic move, he was hurt. We have seen it several times that a fighter is punched in the side the liver can be a painful as your knee hitting a corner of the table. its unbearable.

Some referee will even consider this as if he surrenders already. Of course Tank after a milli second realizes his belt is at stake as him being undisputed is over.

I would say that Tank Davis’s focus on the fight was not at 100 percent. If he had been more focused, he wouldn’t have done that ‘knee thing’ that could have cost him his title. Even if his eyes were irritated, he should have waited for the bell to sound before wiping off the grease he claimed was causing him trouble.

This is the first time that we have seen slipped and not be 100% in a fight. So it's really hard why Tank is not focus here, did he underestimate Lamont Roach, or he is feeling some injury and just used the hair spray excuse?

And the girl that did his hair has responded and she said that she did his hair on a Wednesday.

One thing though that we didn't talk about is that this is the first time that he didn't have Calvin Ford as his trainer.

[bisdak40]

This is the first time that we have seen slipped and not be 100% in a fight. So it's really hard why Tank is not focus here, did he underestimate Lamont Roach, or he is feeling some injury and just used the hair spray excuse?

And the girl that did his hair has responded and she said that she did his hair on a Wednesday.

One thing though that we didn't talk about is that this is the first time that he didn't have Calvin Ford as his trainer.

I could say that he wasn't fully focused on the fight. Additionally, a boxing analyst mentioned that the building he bought to start his real estate business was burned down, which might have contributed to his mental instability going into the fight.

[0t3p0t]

the building he bought to start his real estate business was burned down, which might have contributed to his mental instability going into the fight.

That could be the reason why he is not that focused compared to him from the previous fights that he is very cocky and aggressive. That latest fight for me need to get a rematch to get his ass cleared as we all know that fight was kinda boring at the end.

[Baofeng]

This is the first time that we have seen slipped and not be 100% in a fight. So it's really hard why Tank is not focus here, did he underestimate Lamont Roach, or he is feeling some injury and just used the hair spray excuse?

And the girl that did his hair has responded and she said that she did his hair on a Wednesday.

One thing though that we didn't talk about is that this is the first time that he didn't have Calvin Ford as his trainer.

I could say that he wasn't fully focused on the fight. Additionally, a boxing analyst mentioned that the building he bought to start his real estate business was burned down, which might have contributed to his mental instability going into the fight.

And it just shows that this boxers are human as well, I mean there are a lot of things that goes into their mind before the fight and somewhat they might be influence by other things like this one.

So when the fight comes, they are not 100% on it and their mind is flying and thinking other things and it will really show in the fight like here. He almost lost it.

[Baofeng]

For those who might have remembered that Keith Thurman has a fight in Australia, he won via 3rd round KO against  Brock Jarvis. Here is the full fight,



Obviously, Brock is not on Thurman's level, and after this win, he calls out another Australian in Tim Tszyu. The only story between him and Tim is that they supposedly to fight before until Thurman got injured and then he was replaced by Fundora. And we all know that Fundora vs Tszyu is one of the most bloodiest fight in recent years and Fundora won that fight. And he lost again to Bakhram Murtazaliev the next fight and so the hype on Tim has died down already.

[pawel7777]

It looks like Uyk might get stripped of the WBO belt.
The WBO ordered him to fight a mandatory title defence against Parker:
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/13327564/oleksandr-usyk-wbo-orders-heavyweight-champion-to-face-joseph-parker-next

The problem is, Usyk is allegedly already in talks with Dubois' team, and he said previously in interviews that he wants Dubois as his next opponent, and I don't think the WBO's order will make much difference. I'm guessing his plan is to fight Dubois first and win the IBF belt, then win the WBO belt back and probably retire after that.

[Baofeng]

It looks like Uyk might get stripped of the WBO belt.
The WBO ordered him to fight a mandatory title defence against Parker:
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/13327564/oleksandr-usyk-wbo-orders-heavyweight-champion-to-face-joseph-parker-next

The problem is, Usyk is allegedly already in talks with Dubois' team, and he said previously in interviews that he wants Dubois as his next opponent, and I don't think the WBO's order will make much difference. I'm guessing his plan is to fight Dubois first and win the IBF belt, then win the WBO belt back and probably retire after that.

I like Usyk vs Dubois first, this is a rematch and we want to see another rounds for this two as the first fight is controversial. For now, it doesn't matter of Usyk to have the unified belt again. He has proven in before.

And if he defeats Dubois then go for Parker for his retirement fight.

There's nothing to proved anymore as he has beaten all the best HW in this era.