[Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread

[Kemarit]

Good interview here, Canelo answer some questions that we have in my mind,




Specially that we all know that him and HE Turki has some disagreement publicly. But it seems as what Canelo says, there is miscommunication. For Benavidez fight, he doesn't like him because he is disrespectful and somewhat brandish that why he doesn't like to give him that chance.

[bisdak40]

Good interview here, Canelo answer some questions that we have in my mind,
~snip~
Specially that we all know that him and HE Turki has some disagreement publicly. But it seems as what Canelo says, there is miscommunication. For Benavidez fight, he doesn't like him because he is disrespectful and somewhat brandish that why he doesn't like to give him that chance.

He doesn't want to give Benavidez a shot at him because he knows that David is very capable of beating him and Canelo also said that at this stage of his career he could get whatever he wants so with that being said, he want easy fights from hereon.

[Jating]

Good interview here, Canelo answer some questions that we have in my mind,
~snip~
Specially that we all know that him and HE Turki has some disagreement publicly. But it seems as what Canelo says, there is miscommunication. For Benavidez fight, he doesn't like him because he is disrespectful and somewhat brandish that why he doesn't like to give him that chance.

He doesn't want to give Benavidez a shot at him because he knows that David is very capable of beating him and Canelo also said that at this stage of his career he could get whatever he wants so with that being said, he want easy fights from hereon.

I also have the same speculation and I think this is the sentiments of most boxing fans. David is too big and too strong for Canelo that's why he doesn't recognized him although at the end he says that David is a good boxer. But how can we know how good he is if he doesn't want to give him a chance? And who will forget that he says that he will not fight another Mexican and then go on and fight Jaime Munguia. And if Canelo retired without fighting Benavidez, this could be like a question mark on his greatness. No doubt that he has cemented his legacy and can't please anyone, however there is one fighter that he could have fought but decided not to.

[Baofeng]

Good interview here, Canelo answer some questions that we have in my mind,
~snip~
Specially that we all know that him and HE Turki has some disagreement publicly. But it seems as what Canelo says, there is miscommunication. For Benavidez fight, he doesn't like him because he is disrespectful and somewhat brandish that why he doesn't like to give him that chance.

He doesn't want to give Benavidez a shot at him because he knows that David is very capable of beating him and Canelo also said that at this stage of his career he could get whatever he wants so with that being said, he want easy fights from hereon.

In short, he is avoiding the Mexican monster at all cost. And the fight is very easy to make, as obviously Canelo is the A-side and everything should be in is favor like it could be 80/20 split and still he camp of Benavidez is going to accept it.

But Canelo refuses any of it, and now giving us reasons for why he chooses Scull. So that he could be twice undisputed champion? He says that he already believe in his accomplished so why do it the second time around?

[bisdak40]

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He doesn't want to give Benavidez a shot at him because he knows that David is very capable of beating him and Canelo also said that at this stage of his career he could get whatever he wants so with that being said, he want easy fights from hereon.

I also have the same speculation and I think this is the sentiments of most boxing fans. David is too big and too strong for Canelo that's why he doesn't recognized him although at the end he says that David is a good boxer. But how can we know how good he is if he doesn't want to give him a chance? And who will forget that he says that he will not fight another Mexican and then go on and fight Jaime Munguia. And if Canelo retired without fighting Benavidez, this could be like a question mark on his greatness. No doubt that he has cemented his legacy and can't please anyone, however there is one fighter that he could have fought but decided not to.

Yeah, David Benavidez is big and strong and have the skill set to beat him that is why he is avoiding him at all cost but i do hope that HE Turki would realize that Canelo needs Benavidez to further cement his legacy as he is the only one to advise Canelo on this.

[Kemarit]

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He doesn't want to give Benavidez a shot at him because he knows that David is very capable of beating him and Canelo also said that at this stage of his career he could get whatever he wants so with that being said, he want easy fights from hereon.

I also have the same speculation and I think this is the sentiments of most boxing fans. David is too big and too strong for Canelo that's why he doesn't recognized him although at the end he says that David is a good boxer. But how can we know how good he is if he doesn't want to give him a chance? And who will forget that he says that he will not fight another Mexican and then go on and fight Jaime Munguia. And if Canelo retired without fighting Benavidez, this could be like a question mark on his greatness. No doubt that he has cemented his legacy and can't please anyone, however there is one fighter that he could have fought but decided not to.

Yeah, David Benavidez is big and strong and have the skill set to beat him that is why he is avoiding him at all cost but i do hope that HE Turki would realize that Canelo needs Benavidez to further cement his legacy as he is the only one to advise Canelo on this.

This fight will eventually happen with the help of HE Turki. We all know that Canelo has sign up a 4 fight deal with him, and most likely one of those fights, beside Crawford will be David Benavidez himself.

And since Canelo is the A-side, he will demand the fight to go at Super middle weight, but I don't see Benavidez having issue going down to 168 lbs. He can still make it and probably betting division for him that at 175 lbs.

[target]

Good interview here, Canelo answer some questions that we have in my mind,




Specially that we all know that him and HE Turki has some disagreement publicly. But it seems as what Canelo says, there is miscommunication. For Benavidez fight, he doesn't like him because he is disrespectful and somewhat brandish that why he doesn't like to give him that chance.

He doesn't want to give a Benavidez the spotlight that he was wanting to. Benavidez however is almost a star though, he is the interim champ. I think he should just fight Bivol to be the real deal and all he just need to do is move down to 168. Canelo might not be able to evade from him.

But this is like Inoue vs Casimero. Inoue didn't like Casimero for his bravado. Anyone showing superiority may have to prove it. Benavidez and Casimero I think proved their worth but the money make in the fight isn't worth it for the champ.

[Kemarit]

Good interview here, Canelo answer some questions that we have in my mind,




Specially that we all know that him and HE Turki has some disagreement publicly. But it seems as what Canelo says, there is miscommunication. For Benavidez fight, he doesn't like him because he is disrespectful and somewhat brandish that why he doesn't like to give him that chance.

He doesn't want to give a Benavidez the spotlight that he was wanting to. Benavidez however is almost a star though, he is the interim champ. I think he should just fight Bivol to be the real deal and all he just need to do is move down to 168. Canelo might not be able to evade from him.

But this is like Inoue vs Casimero. Inoue didn't like Casimero for his bravado. Anyone showing superiority may have to prove it. Benavidez and Casimero I think proved their worth but the money make in the fight isn't worth it for the champ.

Yeah, might be similar scenario there. But here the difference is that Benavidez is also a champion and wanted that fight to Canelo, champion to champion. But Canelo is avoiding him like a plague for now as his next fight will be against Scull.

But maybe now that HE Turki and Canelo have their understanding on how boxing should go, I think HE Turki is going to set this up and Canelo can't do anything about it.

[bisdak40]

Good interview here, Canelo answer some questions that we have in my mind,




Specially that we all know that him and HE Turki has some disagreement publicly. But it seems as what Canelo says, there is miscommunication. For Benavidez fight, he doesn't like him because he is disrespectful and somewhat brandish that why he doesn't like to give him that chance.

He doesn't want to give a Benavidez the spotlight that he was wanting to. Benavidez however is almost a star though, he is the interim champ. I think he should just fight Bivol to be the real deal and all he just need to do is move down to 168. Canelo might not be able to evade from him.

But this is like Inoue vs Casimero. Inoue didn't like Casimero for his bravado. Anyone showing superiority may have to prove it. Benavidez and Casimero I think proved their worth but the money make in the fight isn't worth it for the champ.

Yeah, might be similar scenario there. But here the difference is that Benavidez is also a champion and wanted that fight to Canelo, champion to champion. But Canelo is avoiding him like a plague for now as his next fight will be against Scull.

But maybe now that HE Turki and Canelo have their understanding on how boxing should go, I think HE Turki is going to set this up and Canelo can't do anything about it.

One thing i was wondering though, at one time before David Benavidez move up to the light heavyweight division, he was the WBC 168-lb mandatory challenger to the belt in which the top honcho of that governing body didn't push for a mandatory fight between Canelo and Benavidez. is it that WBC is biased on that matter?

[Kemarit]

^^ The Sulaiman's was more on Canelo nut's and that's why they didn't force him to fight his mandatory. Boxing politics as his finest. If your will remember, years ago during the WBC convention, Canelo requested that he be fighting at CW and fight their champion but it should be in a catch weight and the Suliaman immediately said yes to that.

https://fightnews.com/closing-meeting-of-the-59th-wbc-annual-convention/124393

[pawel7777]

Can anyone help me get my head around what's going on with the WBO heavyweight belt?
It was held by Usyk and Parker got the interim one, but somehow, yesterday, Hrgovic defeated Joe Joyce and was announced WBO international heavyweight champion (?!). Is this a different belt, or did both Usyk and Parker get stripped of their belts? I haven't been following boxing lately so bit confused.
Fight highlights:

[Jating]

Can anyone help me get my head around what's going on with the WBO heavyweight belt?
It was held by Usyk and Parker got the interim one, but somehow, yesterday, Hrgovic defeated Joe Joyce and was announced WBO international heavyweight champion (?!). Is this a different belt, or did both Usyk and Parker get stripped of their belts? I haven't been following boxing lately so bit confused.
Fight highlights:

Yes, as far as I know, Usyk is the regular champion and the Parker is the interim. But the funny thing is that Usyk is active, and I know that governing bodies have this interim belt if their regular champion is not that active but that is not the case on Usyk. I'm not familiar with Joyce and Hrgovic with the "international", Heavyweight champion. I have never heard that before, what I know is that another governing body has a lot of champions before, and that is WBC. With "champion in recess" perhaps similar to a interim, or a Diamond Champion as they crafted new belt if there is a big fight between two champions.

[pawel7777]

Yes, as far as I know, Usyk is the regular champion and the Parker is the interim. But the funny thing is that Usyk is active, and I know that governing bodies have this interim belt if their regular champion is not that active but that is not the case on Usyk. I'm not familiar with Joyce and Hrgovic with the "international", Heavyweight champion. I have never heard that before, what I know is that another governing body has a lot of champions before, and that is WBC. With "champion in recess" perhaps similar to a interim, or a Diamond Champion as they crafted new belt if there is a big fight between two champions.

Thanks
From the response I got on the other forum, I understand the "international" belt is something that WBO created just to hype up contenders and make them look more prestigious, but it's got nothing to do with the "real" championship belt.
The explanation makes sense, but the concept of creating meaningless belts is just idiotic, if you ask me.

[Baofeng]

https://x.com/DanRafael1/status/1909342883464818920

So Bivol intentionally vacated his WBC Belt, because he is supposed to be fighting Benavidez next as David is the mandatory and interim champion. Now, David is the full WBC champion.

Bivol vacated it not because he is afraid of Benavidez, but because he will be going out and fight Beterbiev for the trilogy before the end of the year and obviously, this is another big paycheck for him.

Make sense for him to pull this stunt and let Benavidez becoming the WBC champion for now.

[Kemarit]

^^ Yes, Bivol vs Beterbiev needs a trilogy to settle everything. And HE Turki knows this that's why he is not also going to back the Benavidez vs Bivol fight for now. It's all about the money, on what fight is logical for this boxers to have a bigger paycheck than their last fight.

So with Benavidez becoming a regular champion, it's good for him to fight the next best fighter and so called defend the belt. Although if might not be good for him and his fans as it's just been handed to him. Nevertheless, I'm seeing in the future that either Bivol and Beterbiev can't avoid a potential fight with David Benavidez.