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Author Topic: Trading is not same thing as Gambling  (Read 34422 times)

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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #375 on: February 09, 2025, 03:17:01 PM »
Yes brother, there is a lot of logic in your words. We see that there are gamblers and traders in our area. If you lose thousands of dollars in gambling, you will not be able to withdraw them later because you will face more losses to recover them. And if you lose in trading, there is no problem. If you have trading experience or if you have experience about the market, then you can recover your losses 100%. This is the difference between gambling and trading.
What logic words? In gambling, it is not surprising if there are many people who lose money thousands of dollars. But in trading, if we want to improve our knowledge, we must can avoid the chance of big losses. Dude, it will be always a problem when you get losses in trading, too. There is no one who wants to get losses. Moreover the traders, they must expect profits as much as possible.
You are right, many people lose their money in gambling because they only rely on luck. While in trading requires knowledge and analytical skills and to develop the right strategy in order to get consistent profits, even though sometimes you experience defeat because nothing is perfect in life.
I also sometimes experience defeat in trading but that defeat is an experience to be more careful.

       -     Until now, many people still gamble in casinos, still relying on luck, and the majority of them consider it a job, even though the ultimate outcome is still luck.

And we can't blame them because they may have been inspired by gambling, even though in the eyes of most people it is not right and
this is a false belief among gamblers.

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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #376 on: February 09, 2025, 05:39:05 PM »


       -     Until now, many people still gamble in casinos, still relying on luck, and the majority of them consider it a job, even though the ultimate outcome is still luck.

And we can't blame them because they may have been inspired by gambling, even though in the eyes of most people it is not right and
this is a false belief among gamblers.
It is difficult to stop gambling for those who have a gambling hobby, many of my friends also went bankrupt because of gambling. but they do not give up and continue to do it when they still have money.
whereas if they no longer have money and want to gamble, they can commit crimes.

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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #377 on: February 09, 2025, 11:47:34 PM »
It is difficult to stop gambling for those who have a gambling hobby, many of my friends also went bankrupt because of gambling. but they do not give up and continue to do it when they still have money.
If we are talking about gambling, surely it will be difficult to stop it if it already becomes a habit. Moreover, those people who get addiction in gambling, they need a special treatment from the doctors to recover them. It is very different with trading that we may feel bored if we never get profits.  ;D

whereas if they no longer have money and want to gamble, they can commit crimes.
Yes, for the addicts, they may do crimes to get money for gambling games.


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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #378 on: February 28, 2025, 03:23:19 PM »
People who believe that trading is like gambling is not like that, sooner or later they will lose and they will lose a lot of money, so in view of this it can be foreseen that the money spent in a casino is simply limited and given to luck, the money spent on trading must be clearly well studied its movements, then trading is more about knowledge than luck, in gambling 90% is mere luck, that is why there is no comparison nor should it be seen as if trading were gambling, neither in binary options nor futures that the market is at another time frame.
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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #379 on: February 28, 2025, 05:15:03 PM »
People who believe that trading is like gambling is not like that, sooner or later they will lose and they will lose a lot of money, so in view of this it can be foreseen that the money spent in a casino is simply limited and given to luck, the money spent on trading must be clearly well studied its movements, then trading is more about knowledge than luck, in gambling 90% is mere luck, that is why there is no comparison nor should it be seen as if trading were gambling, neither in binary options nor futures that the market is at another time frame.
We can't force our opinions on people who already consider trading the same as gambling, because sometimes it's hard to explain to those who already have their opinions.

I myself have no problem with such things, because once again they have a different point of view from us. Instead of arguing with them, it won't change them usually, so it's better to just let them be as long as they don't bother us.

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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #380 on: February 28, 2025, 05:29:09 PM »
We can't force our opinions on people who already consider trading the same as gambling, because sometimes it's hard to explain to those who already have their opinions.

I myself have no problem with such things, because once again they have a different point of view from us. Instead of arguing with them, it won't change them usually, so it's better to just let them be as long as they don't bother us.

Exactly, people will always believes what they want to believe and your opinion about what they strongly belive will not change it otherwise. So, as long as they are making money with their opinions and I'm always making mine, I think everyone should believe what they want to believe, at the end of the day the goal is to make money isn't!

Trading in isn't gambling but if you want to trade, risk is involve unless you want to do leverage trading where you will be doing 50x or 100x for future trading, that's when I can consider your trading to be gambling otherwise gambling isn't and never trading in my opinion.
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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #381 on: February 28, 2025, 05:35:43 PM »
So, as long as they are making money with their opinions
This sounds like something other than trading or gambling, lol. Anyway, I get your point, it's just that people generalize terms such as gambling, even say life is gambling, you do the bet to risk and it's always a win or lose, right? And this term becomes so general that they even think trading is just the same when technically it's not. You can fully control your wins and losses in trading, while gambling is don't unless it is sports betting, but most of the games/options in gambling are based on luck, so you can't control the outcome.
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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #381 on: February 28, 2025, 05:35:43 PM »


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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #382 on: February 28, 2025, 06:46:45 PM »

Trading in isn't gambling but if you want to trade, risk is involve unless you want to do leverage trading where you will be doing 50x or 100x for future trading, that's when I can consider your trading to be gambling otherwise gambling isn't and never trading in my opinion.

I think trading is systematic gambling and It is a game of probability which favors traders who have learned trading techniques well. The future outcome of gambling is unknown, just as the future of the crypto market is uncertain. Otherwise there is a risk of losing your money from trading just like losing gambling can damage your money.
If you don't get used to it and do it as a business, then you become a businessman. But if you trade by looking at charts or listening to people, trading randomly without knowing anything then you are definitely a gambler.

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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #383 on: February 28, 2025, 11:26:24 PM »

Trading in isn't gambling but if you want to trade, risk is involve unless you want to do leverage trading where you will be doing 50x or 100x for future trading, that's when I can consider your trading to be gambling otherwise gambling isn't and never trading in my opinion.

I think trading is systematic gambling and It is a game of probability which favors traders who have learned trading techniques well. The future outcome of gambling is unknown, just as the future of the crypto market is uncertain. Otherwise there is a risk of losing your money from trading just like losing gambling can damage your money.
If you don't get used to it and do it as a business, then you become a businessman. But if you trade by looking at charts or listening to people, trading randomly without knowing anything then you are definitely a gambler.
I think trading is not like gambling if we have the knowledge and skills to make analysis and develop strategies. Although the crypto market is difficult to predict, crypto has proven to survive until today, of course what I am discussing is the top coins.
The top 10 coins are still surviving, and I think the future is clear.

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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #384 on: March 01, 2025, 04:30:26 PM »
We can't force our opinions on people who already consider trading the same as gambling, because sometimes it's hard to explain to those who already have their opinions.

I myself have no problem with such things, because once again they have a different point of view from us. Instead of arguing with them, it won't change them usually, so it's better to just let them be as long as they don't bother us.

Exactly, people will always believes what they want to believe and your opinion about what they strongly belive will not change it otherwise. So, as long as they are making money with their opinions and I'm always making mine, I think everyone should believe what they want to believe, at the end of the day the goal is to make money isn't!

Trading in isn't gambling but if you want to trade, risk is involve unless you want to do leverage trading where you will be doing 50x or 100x for future trading, that's when I can consider your trading to be gambling otherwise gambling isn't and never trading in my opinion.
Well in other words we have to look at our capabilities with the capital we bring of course. If we only look at the profit, of course we will always set the highest leverage and I also agree that it can be the same as gambling if we do it without a basis.

This has actually been discussed a lot and there are always different views from each person.

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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #385 on: March 02, 2025, 02:07:00 PM »
We can't force our opinions on people who already consider trading the same as gambling, because sometimes it's hard to explain to those who already have their opinions.

I myself have no problem with such things, because once again they have a different point of view from us. Instead of arguing with them, it won't change them usually, so it's better to just let them be as long as they don't bother us.

Exactly, people will always believes what they want to believe and your opinion about what they strongly belive will not change it otherwise. So, as long as they are making money with their opinions and I'm always making mine, I think everyone should believe what they want to believe, at the end of the day the goal is to make money isn't!

Trading in isn't gambling but if you want to trade, risk is involve unless you want to do leverage trading where you will be doing 50x or 100x for future trading, that's when I can consider your trading to be gambling otherwise gambling isn't and never trading in my opinion.
Well in other words we have to look at our capabilities with the capital we bring of course. If we only look at the profit, of course we will always set the highest leverage and I also agree that it can be the same as gambling if we do it without a basis.

This has actually been discussed a lot and there are always different views from each person.
We really have to see the capital capabilities that we have in investing.
don't force yourself if we have a small capital, we can trade to add to our crypto asset collection.
so for those who start investing in crypto with a small capital, be patient. With the profits we get, we can add to our crypto assets.

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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #386 on: March 02, 2025, 05:38:20 PM »
We can't force our opinions on people who already consider trading the same as gambling, because sometimes it's hard to explain to those who already have their opinions.

I myself have no problem with such things, because once again they have a different point of view from us. Instead of arguing with them, it won't change them usually, so it's better to just let them be as long as they don't bother us.

Exactly, people will always believes what they want to believe and your opinion about what they strongly belive will not change it otherwise. So, as long as they are making money with their opinions and I'm always making mine, I think everyone should believe what they want to believe, at the end of the day the goal is to make money isn't!

Trading in isn't gambling but if you want to trade, risk is involve unless you want to do leverage trading where you will be doing 50x or 100x for future trading, that's when I can consider your trading to be gambling otherwise gambling isn't and never trading in my opinion.
Well in other words we have to look at our capabilities with the capital we bring of course. If we only look at the profit, of course we will always set the highest leverage and I also agree that it can be the same as gambling if we do it without a basis.

This has actually been discussed a lot and there are always different views from each person.
We really have to see the capital capabilities that we have in investing.
don't force yourself if we have a small capital, we can trade to add to our crypto asset collection.
so for those who start investing in crypto with a small capital, be patient. With the profits we get, we can add to our crypto assets.
Yes, profit is profit.  We do not need to compare how much others earn.  What matters is that your strategy actually works.  Even if we just have just a little bit of capital, it will grow over time as we gain an advantage.  We recognize that having a large capital is beneficial, but it is pointless if you do not have a profitable plan; there is no difference between those who have small capital but lose money.

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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #387 on: March 02, 2025, 11:39:24 PM »
Yes, profit is profit.  We do not need to compare how much others earn.  What matters is that your strategy actually works.  Even if we just have just a little bit of capital, it will grow over time as we gain an advantage.  We recognize that having a large capital is beneficial, but it is pointless if you do not have a profitable plan; there is no difference between those who have small capital but lose money.
You're right. It just wastes time to compare the profits with other people. We must focus on our own target for profits. If it reaches our target, I think it is enough. Even if we only has a smaller capital, sure it will raise if we can get profits. We can invest with bigger capital in the next cycle. So, we don't need to feel bad with our capital. The people who invest in bigger capital, they also have the risk to lose with bigger amount of money.


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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #388 on: March 03, 2025, 01:08:40 PM »
Yes, profit is profit.  We do not need to compare how much others earn.  What matters is that your strategy actually works.  Even if we just have just a little bit of capital, it will grow over time as we gain an advantage.  We recognize that having a large capital is beneficial, but it is pointless if you do not have a profitable plan; there is no difference between those who have small capital but lose money.
You're right. It just wastes time to compare the profits with other people. We must focus on our own target for profits. If it reaches our target, I think it is enough. Even if we only has a smaller capital, sure it will raise if we can get profits. We can invest with bigger capital in the next cycle. So, we don't need to feel bad with our capital. The people who invest in bigger capital, they also have the risk to lose with bigger amount of money.
All matters about sustainability because if you are really just that dealing up with trading then its a skill that you cant really be able to copy from others perfectly. There are several factors on which it would really be affecting out your trades on which it will be that much more best if you are setting your own goals and your own self learning phase. This isnt a skill that you can be able to obtain easily but once you do able to grasps out such skills then you will definitely be having that kind of edge in comparing into those people who are really just that starting up. Dealing up with this volatile space will really be never be that easy but on the moment or time that you will be having this kind of setting out targets whenever you do have those gains then it is the outmost preferable thing that needs up to consider.

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Re: Trading is not same thing as Gambling
« Reply #389 on: March 03, 2025, 03:23:17 PM »
We can't force our opinions on people who already consider trading the same as gambling, because sometimes it's hard to explain to those who already have their opinions.

I myself have no problem with such things, because once again they have a different point of view from us. Instead of arguing with them, it won't change them usually, so it's better to just let them be as long as they don't bother us.

Exactly, people will always believes what they want to believe and your opinion about what they strongly belive will not change it otherwise. So, as long as they are making money with their opinions and I'm always making mine, I think everyone should believe what they want to believe, at the end of the day the goal is to make money isn't!

Trading in isn't gambling but if you want to trade, risk is involve unless you want to do leverage trading where you will be doing 50x or 100x for future trading, that's when I can consider your trading to be gambling otherwise gambling isn't and never trading in my opinion.
Well in other words we have to look at our capabilities with the capital we bring of course. If we only look at the profit, of course we will always set the highest leverage and I also agree that it can be the same as gambling if we do it without a basis.

This has actually been discussed a lot and there are always different views from each person.

I think that just entering into trading does not make it trading, it is basically called gambling. Because if we invest in the currency we will trade without knowing well about the currency, it is natural that we will lose. In my opinion, crypto currency trading is not that easy, just enter and invest whenever you want. For this, we need to know a lot of things, it is necessary to have an idea about the market.

 

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