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[SamReomo]

I didn't know the bad side of Centralized exchanges before I joined my forum journey. I was happily using Coinbase and Binance back then. I still use Binance to sell my USDT. But, I wish I have more options so I can stop using centralized exchanges.

There's nothing wrong in using centralized exchanges, but it's not okay to keep one's funds at those exchanges because they can be hacked and one's funds aren't safe at those exchanges. However, if someone is into trading then it's also mandatory to keep one's funds at such exchanges.

I'm a trader myself and I have funds at various crypto centralized exchanges, that I keep there for trading purpose and so far I haven't faced any issues. Thankfully, I didn't had any account or funds at FTX because we all know what happened to it, and hopefully I believe exchanges like Binance won't face any such issues.

[God Of Thunder]

There's nothing wrong in using centralized exchanges, but it's not okay to keep one's funds at those exchanges because they can be hacked and one's funds aren't safe at those exchanges. However, if someone is into trading then it's also mandatory to keep one's funds at such exchanges.

I'm a trader myself and I have funds at various crypto centralized exchanges, that I keep there for trading purpose and so far I haven't faced any issues. Thankfully, I didn't had any account or funds at FTX because we all know what happened to it, and hopefully I believe exchanges like Binance won't face any such issues.

Well, I don't want to write a long story. However, using centralized exchanges is a gray area. There are some negative aspects of centralized exchanges besides the positive ones. The biggest fear is Identity theft. Unfortunately, I am KYCed already on many exchanges and casinos, even before I understand the bad side of KYC.

I came to know that bad people in exchanges actually sell those KYC on the black market. Coinbase also admitted that its partners sold users' information on the internet. This is terrible, to be honest. I don't keep too much on exchanges. But I have a few hundred dollars in case of emergency.

[SamReomo]

I came to know that bad people in exchanges actually sell those KYC on the black market. Coinbase also admitted that its partners sold users' information on the internet. This is terrible, to be honest. I don't keep too much on exchanges. But I have a few hundred dollars in case of emergency.

Well, that the worst that can happen with a user who keeps their money on centralized exchanges, and not only KYC details but sometimes one's assets can also be hacked if the exchange's hot wallet gets hacked or even the user's wallet or account gets hacked. It's not really recommended to keep any money at exchanges but when you're a trader then you'll have to keep money at those exchanges.

[dkbit98]

I have not seen any reasons not to trust Centralized exchanges especially during withdrawal/transfers operations, may be because i am yet to experience any issues.

Really? 
After so many hacks, stolen coins, leaked personal information, seized coins, blocked accounts and all other crap... you are going to continue trusting centralized exchanges?
I can't say that I am surprised because most people are doing the same thing, and only a few of them care about non-custodial wallets and decentralized p2p trading.

I came to know that bad people in exchanges actually sell those KYC on the black market. Coinbase also admitted that its partners sold users' information on the internet. This is terrible, to be honest. I don't keep too much on exchanges. But I have a few hundred dollars in case of emergency.

There is a demand for that, and people are willing to sell that, not all of them doing that are bad.

[God Of Thunder]

Well, that the worst that can happen with a user who keeps their money on centralized exchanges, and not only KYC details but sometimes one's assets can also be hacked if the exchange's hot wallet gets hacked or even the user's wallet or account gets hacked. It's not really recommended to keep any money at exchanges but when you're a trader then you'll have to keep money at those exchanges.

Once you complete your KYC on any platform, whether you keep yours on those platforms or not, you are risking your valuable identity. The coinbase users whose identity was stolen did not lose their exchange balance or anything. But they don't know when a criminal will use their ID card to do some crime. I have translated a case where a Romanian guy was chased buy Cops because they thought he did a crime. But, the reality is that his identity was stolen and used by the criminals. Unfortunately, the platforms still rely on 3rd party services to collect KYC data.

[SamReomo]

Once you complete your KYC on any platform, whether you keep yours on those platforms or not, you are risking your valuable identity. The coinbase users whose identity was stolen did not lose their exchange balance or anything.

Well, completing KYC is always a risk and we all know that but still we have to do it in order to use some platforms. The ones who prefer privacy never complete KYC but the ones who take the risk will always have such fears.

I know it's not safe to complete the KYC because ones details can be leaked online when databases of such exchanges are hacked but still most of us complete the KYC as we have no other option.

[God Of Thunder]

Well, completing KYC is always a risk and we all know that but still we have to do it in order to use some platforms. The ones who prefer privacy never complete KYC but the ones who take the risk will always have such fears. I know it's not safe to complete the KYC because ones details can be leaked online when databases of such exchanges are hacked but still most of us complete the KYC as we have no other option.

I don't know if I would complete KYC on any of those centralized platforms If I knew the negative side of completing KYC. But when I first created an account on an exchange and verified it with my National ID card, I did not think anything, and I did not know about the bad side of the KYC. But once I completed KYC on a website, I knew my documents weren't safe anymore.

When I came to know about the bad sides of, I had completed my KYC on dozens of websites already. Since then, I completed KYC on a couple more websites. But that was because I already know what I did before.

[SamReomo]

When I came to know about the bad sides of, I had completed my KYC on dozens of websites already. Since then, I completed KYC on a couple more websites. But that was because I already know what I did before.

I also try to avoid KYC on gambling sites after knowing that KYC details can be leaked but like you I have also completed my KYC on multiple exchanges before knowing that the details can be hacked and leaked online.

Now, I don't really care much about KYC, if it becomes mandatory on a platform I complete the KYC since my personal details are already present on multiple platforms. The best part about mixers like Thormixer is that they value privacy and that's why they never ask for KYC details.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

When I came to know about the bad sides of, I had completed my KYC on dozens of websites already. Since then, I completed KYC on a couple more websites. But that was because I already know what I did before.

I also try to avoid KYC on gambling sites after knowing that KYC details can be leaked but like you I have also completed my KYC on multiple exchanges before knowing that the details can be hacked and leaked online.

Now, I don't really care much about KYC, if it becomes mandatory on a platform I complete the KYC since my personal details are already present on multiple platforms. The best part about mixers like Thormixer is that they value privacy and that's why they never ask for KYC details.

KYC stands against what privacy truly is and represent, so if any instants, a bitcoin mixer start asking for kyc verification from users before they are allowed to mix bitcoin, then it's completely off and simply means that there is absolutely no reason for mixers to even run, since the purpose for their existence has been compromised.

One of the reasons why people mix bitcoin is to destroy the bitcoin tracks and possibility of tracing their origin, and as well as hide or keep the owner of the bitcoin anonymous or private, if at any point in time this things can no longer be achieved through mixing bitcoin, it simply means that the bitcoin mixing industry is gone.

[SamReomo]

KYC stands against what privacy truly is and represent, so if any instants, a bitcoin mixer start asking for kyc verification from users before they are allowed to mix bitcoin, then it's completely off and simply means that there is absolutely no reason for mixers to even run, since the purpose for their existence has been compromised.

Yes, that's true, and I fully agree with you. KYC is against the law of privacy and mixers are services that promote privacy and that's why people use mixers. Good mixers like Thormixer clear all traces of Bitcoin and addresses and that's why users use this amazing mixing service. Mixers like Thormixer will always give high importance to privacy and that's why users can use their mixing functions without even any need of creating any type of account.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

KYC stands against what privacy truly is and represent, so if any instants, a bitcoin mixer start asking for kyc verification from users before they are allowed to mix bitcoin, then it's completely off and simply means that there is absolutely no reason for mixers to even run, since the purpose for their existence has been compromised.

Yes, that's true, and I fully agree with you. KYC is against the law of privacy and mixers are services that promote privacy and that's why people use mixers. Good mixers like Thormixer clear all traces of Bitcoin and addresses and that's why users use this amazing mixing service. Mixers like Thormixer will always give high importance to privacy and that's why users can use their mixing functions without even any need of creating any type of account.

Yeah, the part of Thormixer that really got me is that they require no account, other mixers I've ever used require users to sign up an account including Unijoin before they went offline.

Thormixer went the extra mile and proving their high interest in privacy by eliminating the need for parties interested in mixing bitcoin to first go through an account registration, which actually someone how defeats privacy even though kyc is not involved, this is a feature I think other mixers should emulate to further promote total privacy in the bitcoin mixing industry.

And let me say that I really hope that someday, Thormixer will return with their signature ad campaign again.

[God Of Thunder]

Yeah, the part of Thormixer that really got me is that they require no account, other mixers I've ever used require users to sign up an account including Unijoin before they went offline.

I did not use Unijoin or any other mixers that actually required me to sign up before I started my mixing. I guess almost 90% of the mixers do not require their users to sign up because they do not store any kind of user information like email, password, and transaction details. If a mixer requires you to sign up, that is a red flag actually. They are storing data which may later get exposed to the authorities and you may get into trouble for using their service.

To be honest, I thought it was a standard not to require an account before someone used a mixer. This is the first time I hear that some mixers actually require their users to sign up. I haven't seen one yet. Even if there was, I did not notice or did not use them.

[examplens]

To be honest, I thought it was a standard not to require an account before someone used a mixer. This is the first time I hear that some mixers actually require their users to sign up. I haven't seen one yet. Even if there was, I did not notice or did not use them.

Previously, there were various reasons why some mixers went in the direction that users should have accounts with them for the mixing process. For example, whirlwind.money also offered a staking option, because the funds would still be used for the mixing process, but that didn't end well. However, we do not know the exact reasons for closing this mixer.

However, over time it has become clear that mixers must have as high a level of anonymity as possible, and any collection of data, even if it is just a username/password, does not support the basic purpose of coin mixing.

[hugeblack]

Yeah, the part of Thormixer that really got me is that they require no account, other mixers I've ever used require users to sign up an account including Unijoin before they went offline.

Do you mean to register a new account or do you have an account in the mixing service, if you have an account then it means that they know or record the previous transactions or in other words avoid using that mixer. and Unijoin was not asking to create an account.

[bitmover]

Yeah, the part of Thormixer that really got me is that they require no account, other mixers I've ever used require users to sign up an account including Unijoin before they went offline.

Do you mean to register a new account or do you have an account in the mixing service, if you have an account then it means that they know or record the previous transactions or in other words avoid using that mixer. and Unijoin was not asking to create an account.

creating an account to mix coins? That's defeat the whole purpose of using a mixer.

They would certainly have a database of all account's past addresses, received addresses from the mixer, IP, etc etc...

Just avoid using that, as hugeblack said.