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Re: LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
« Reply #90 on: May 11, 2024, 09:17:14 PM »
With these services shutting down, it might disrupt their business until they can find another source of liquidity to mix with or they change their process to not be dependent on third parties. It could also be that they got spooked by the recent arrests and decided to shut down before the same happened to them.

Shutting down without making users and affiliates whole is called an exit scam. It has happened before with the likes of Bitblender.

In the case of users, we don't know if anyone sent coins that have not finished mixing when the sites were brought down.

At least Unijoin was well-ran enough to automatically open affiliate accounts upon creation so that I could withdraw my commission from there, but from both a privacy and business perspective I am definitely not looking at this with enthusiasm.
I completely agree, as long as they don't provide a solution for the case of your money still being stuck on their site then it can be called a scam, whatever amount of money is still stuck in your account you should be able to make a withdrawal. It's a shame that the name of such a big mixer is ruined because it doesn't give you your money. Hopefully the developer will immediately activate your account and be able to make withdrawals from your affiliate results.

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Re: LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
« Reply #91 on: May 13, 2024, 01:06:43 PM »
At least Unijoin was well-ran enough to automatically open affiliate accounts upon creation so that I could withdraw my commission from there, but from both a privacy and business perspective I am definitely not looking at this with enthusiasm.
Something is happening with them, I am not sure if they are coming back online or not, but I saw their reddit page r/UniJoin is being active again and making new posts.
Few minutes ago they made a post talking if mixers are traceable:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UniJoin/comments/1cqwcgu/are_bitcoin_mixers_traceable/

Five days ago they made another post, and at this time their official website was already not working:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UniJoin/comments/1cn1tao/ever_wondered_about_chainalysis_lets_unpack_it/

It is unclear to me who actually controls Unijoin reddit account.
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Re: LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
« Reply #92 on: May 13, 2024, 10:50:20 PM »
Unfortunately, one more mixer is out of business. They may have been the youngest and have not yet acquired a user base, but they are certainly entering a negative trend of decreasing privacy service options.


After consideration. Tengri has decided to close. Thank you for being with us on this short journey.


Obviously, I have to update the list.
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Re: LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
« Reply #93 on: May 14, 2024, 05:36:42 AM »
Something is happening with them, I am not sure if they are coming back online or not, but I saw their reddit page r/UniJoin is being active again and making new posts.
Few minutes ago they made a post talking if mixers are traceable:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UniJoin/comments/1cqwcgu/are_bitcoin_mixers_traceable/

Five days ago they made another post, and at this time their official website was already not working:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UniJoin/comments/1cn1tao/ever_wondered_about_chainalysis_lets_unpack_it/

It is unclear to me who actually controls Unijoin reddit account.

It could be someone's (ie the operator's) personal account or something?

I dunno. It definitely does not imply they are going to resume business any time soon, if ever.
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Re: LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
« Reply #94 on: May 14, 2024, 10:53:51 PM »
Unfortunately, one more mixer is out of business. They may have been the youngest and have not yet acquired a user base, but they are certainly entering a negative trend of decreasing privacy service options.
Why do you still have Tumbler and Unijoin listed when they are not available for some time?

It could be someone's (ie the operator's) personal account or something?
I don't know but it's stranger that someone continued to post, unless this is just AI generated content.
All other accounts Unijoin used are not active anymore, but scammers could always create phishing pages, so better be alert.
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Re: LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
« Reply #95 on: May 15, 2024, 08:25:41 PM »
Why do you still have Tumbler and Unijoin listed when they are not available for some time?
I sincerely hoped that it would still appear and that the interruption was due to maintenance or something similar. Since there was no possibility of fraud, I did not consider that removal was urgently needed.

However, in order for the list to be reliable, I made an update and deleted mixers that are no longer functional, as well as Yomix, which is obviously high-risk.

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Re: LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
« Reply #96 on: May 15, 2024, 09:44:48 PM »
However, in order for the list to be reliable, I made an update and deleted mixers that are no longer functional, as well as Yomix, which is obviously high-risk.
It looks better now, and inactive old mixers could be added separately without images, maybe in different post for historic purposes.
I saw today in bitcointalk forum one accusation for another service Cryptomixer.io, but I didn't see any evidence and that guy didn't even download letter of guarantee ::)
It would also be useful if someone could report any new mixers that pop up in future.
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Re: LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
« Reply #96 on: May 15, 2024, 09:44:48 PM »


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« Reply #97 on: May 15, 2024, 10:32:43 PM »
I saw today in bitcointalk forum one accusation for another service Cryptomixer.io, but I didn't see any evidence and that guy didn't even download letter of guarantee ::)
I'm not sure, but icopress mentioned another mixer (in addition to Yomix) for which there are scam accusations on other networks. It may be cryptomixer.io, but I haven't found anything specific about it.
(I mentioned him now, maybe he will give here more information that he has)

It looks better now, and inactive old mixers could be added separately without images, maybe in different post for historic purposes.
I was thinking earlier, that I'll probably add in a second post some kind of log for the mixers that were removed from the list with a short explanation.
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Re: LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
« Reply #98 on: May 16, 2024, 02:11:59 AM »
At least Unijoin was well-ran enough to automatically open affiliate accounts upon creation so that I could withdraw my commission from there, but from both a privacy and business perspective I am definitely not looking at this with enthusiasm.

Sad to see all those companies making exit scam. Maybe some of them were the same company.

They have spent much more than 2 btc in btt forum... maybe they collected a lot more money to exit scam.
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Re: LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
« Reply #99 on: May 16, 2024, 04:56:20 AM »
Unfortunately, one more mixer is out of business. They may have been the youngest and have not yet acquired a user base, but they are certainly entering a negative trend of decreasing privacy service options.


After consideration. Tengri has decided to close. Thank you for being with us on this short journey.


Obviously, I have to update the list.
is there any specific reason now why mixers are shutting down? is it about the government running against them or its the people who is preventing from using mixing services ?
it looks like there are more and more of them that shutting down each year so wondering that in the coming years there will be no mixing that available for the users.

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Re: LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
« Reply #100 on: May 16, 2024, 10:22:23 AM »
is there any specific reason now why mixers are shutting down? is it about the government running against them or its the people who is preventing from using mixing services ?
it looks like there are more and more of them that shutting down each year so wondering that in the coming years there will be no mixing that available for the users.

Eh, mixers have been coming and leaving through the revolving door every year. It's just that now there happen to be three mixers exiting the space versus one entering this year. (It should actually be 2:1, because Tengri was started this year so its dissolution should not contribute to the number of mixers running.)

I find it quite odd that more mixers aren't jumping in to fill the void left by their predecessors, though.
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Re: LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
« Reply #101 on: May 16, 2024, 01:47:27 PM »
is there any specific reason now why mixers are shutting down? is it about the government running against them or its the people who is preventing from using mixing services ?
it looks like there are more and more of them that shutting down each year so wondering that in the coming years there will be no mixing that available for the users.

Because the developers of services that deal with increasing privacy and anonymity going to be arrested. The authorities have decided to label the developers as money launderers, although they are aware that this is pure nonsense so by arresting them they are trying to discourage the further development of this segment.
Unijoin, Tengri, and Tumbler are examples of the method working.

For example:
Samourai Wallet seized and founders arrested
or Tornado Cash developer Alexey Pertsev has been found guilty of laundering $1.2 billion
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Re: LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
« Reply #102 on: May 16, 2024, 01:56:14 PM »
Because the developers of services that deal with increasing privacy and anonymity going to be arrested. The authorities have decided to label the developers as money launderers, although they are aware that this is pure nonsense so by arresting them they are trying to discourage the further development of this segment.
Unijoin, Tengri, and Tumbler are examples of the method working.

I figure that the only way you are going to get something in this space through is by developing it under a pseudonym, like how Satoshi did with Bitcoin.

They can't catch the real money launderers so they have decided to just classify all developers and IT workers involved in financial software (oops, I mean crypto software) as money launderers, criminals, and such. It fits with their narrative that cryptocurrencies are only used for crime unless it's an exchange or other big business using it.
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Re: LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
« Reply #103 on: May 16, 2024, 08:38:46 PM »


I figure that the only way you are going to get something in this space through is by developing it under a pseudonym, like how Satoshi did with Bitcoin.


This is  a pain in the ass for developers.

I do that. I work in some projects as bitmover and in others with my real name. It is complicated  , and my resume becomes worse. But the privacy is worth.

It is also complicated to work with 2 github accounts,  etc..

However,  developer is not my main job, just an extra. I imagine how it could be complicated for full time devs
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Re: LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
« Reply #104 on: May 16, 2024, 09:35:25 PM »
I find it quite odd that more mixers aren't jumping in to fill the void left by their predecessors, though.
Maybe they are released but we didn't hear about them yet, and it takes time to built something that actually works for mixing and privacy.
They must be much better protected now if they want to survive attacks and seizure from regulators, and this is going to be even more intense in future.

I figure that the only way you are going to get something in this space through is by developing it under a pseudonym, like how Satoshi did with Bitcoin.
It sure is getting very risky developing anything related with privacy these days, if your identity is known to public than you can expect someone knocking on your door soon.
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