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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2024, 04:11:39 PM »
If we had to pay 1 dollar for speeding tickets nobody would care about them.

++ True. I agree with that. The minimum penalty should start from $10 and increase depending on how bad the case is. Otherwise, people won't care about it.

Ai contents are not acceptable any where mate. I find people who use AI as weak and lazy individuals with low writing experiences. Yes there might be some use of the ai such as researching or rephrasing but creating a whole thread or topic using AI is considered I'll and if being caught should be punished. I really don't know how the punishment for offenders is on this forum but I'm hoping that there's something like that here.

We know that. But there are no rules in the forum rules regarding AI posting. But, Jokers have said something about it. So, I will start reporting AI posts. I have seen a couple of AI generated content in this forum. But I didn't reported them because of the rules.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2024, 04:11:39 PM »

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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2024, 06:23:07 PM »
I don't recommend anyone to test this theory in practice.
I dont plan to test it but this is not a theory.
I saw one high ranked member from this forum getting reported for plagiarism, than he was asked to pay with karma and tokens I think, and case closed.
If we had to pay 1 dollar for speeding tickets nobody would care about them.
Using AI is like plagiarism.

You saw some single case and made far-reaching conclusions, making a theory of how the things are going on. You have critically insufficient incoming data to form a holistic picture. If we'd never been making more strict actions there'd been a hordes of spammers and other sort violators.

Don't mislead others confusing a second chance and permissiveness, it's not the same. Symbolic token payment is not an indulgence for violations for everyone by default.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2024, 07:07:07 PM »
You saw some single case and made far-reaching conclusions, making a theory of how the things are going on. You have critically insufficient incoming data to form a holistic picture. If we'd never been making more strict actions there'd been a hordes of spammers and other sort violators.
What is up with you and theories?  ;D
I was stating real life example that happened, that is total opposite of theory.
And yes I dont know what will happen in future, but I can visit board with similar topics and see all cases that happen in past.
Be ready to hear for some criticism from me, it is much healthier for everyone, than to always say nice things and agree with everything.

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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2024, 07:18:44 PM »
Be ready to hear for some criticism from me, it is much healthier for everyone, than to always say nice things and agree with everything.

Criticizing is not a problem, the problem is that the way you state your ideas can mislead others and they'll face much more unpleasant penalties than can expect. And I have to warn others against following your words.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2024, 02:55:48 PM »
No forum should allow AI-generated content if there are active posters on the forum, there's a probability that the AI content could beat the post quality of posters, this is a community discussion platform and it should all be human-generated responses subject to errors and correction, that makes a forum great.
It's not good to see an AI-dominated community because it will become a battle of who's the better AI to come with a perfect answer, our visitors are human so the forum behavior should be human-related and not generic AI.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2024, 06:24:06 AM »
Hi there.

I am sorry if there were similar threads or if it has been answered before. But, I have asked the question somewhere else and I didn't get the answer. I guess the admin or the president didn't see that. I would like to ask again if AI-generated content should be allowed or not. Generating content with AI and Copy pasting posts from other sources (Which is plagiarism) should be the similar (if not same) offense and they should be punished. I would like to hear the community feedback and comments from admin or officials would be appreciated.
Copy pasting or artificially intelligent posts are generally punishable by law here and artificially intelligent posts will not be accepted here either. Just as AI posts are not acceptable on Bitcoin forums, artificial intelligence posts are not acceptable on Altcoin forums either. All signature managers here have completely banned artificial intelligence posts.

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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2024, 05:04:36 PM »
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Hi. I had offered something. Would you mind creating a thread like Report AI generated post here with proof? Because if we report AI generated post by using Report to moderator button, the mod has to check it with a tool and take a decision which may take a lot of time.

If you create a thread where we would be able to report them and we will include the link to the report in the description so the mod can check the result. Just like nutildah's thread on Bitcointalk. I would love to clear some AI shit posters.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2024, 05:04:36 PM »


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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2024, 05:34:44 PM »
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Hi. I had offered something. Would you mind creating a thread like Report AI generated post here with proof? Because if we report AI generated post by using Report to moderator button, the mod has to check it with a tool and take a decision which may take a lot of time.

If you create a thread where we would be able to report them and we will include the link to the report in the description so the mod can check the result. Just like nutildah's thread on Bitcointalk. I would love to clear some AI shit posters.

I guess only admin and Decentralized Team section moderators can open topics there. So we need to wait for admin's decision. If it will be needed, I can write a text and draw up the topic, but I can't open it there as for now.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2024, 09:49:35 PM »
What is up with you and theories?  ;D
I was stating real life example that happened, that is total opposite of theory.
And yes I dont know what will happen in future, but I can visit board with similar topics and see all cases that happen in past.
Be ready to hear for some criticism from me, it is much healthier for everyone, than to always say nice things and agree with everything.

I don't know what others think, but for me such criticisms are not a problem, on the contrary, they seem necessary to me. But what we cannot allow is the use of AI in the forum. Imagine a forum in which all "users" used AI for their posts. I think that if that were allowed, that forum would be chaos in a very short time, with meaningless conversations and topics that have nothing to do with the forum. What makes a forum a community is the interaction between users, and that, fortunately, is something that no AI will ever be able to do.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2024, 11:58:21 PM »
If AI posts are allowed here, we could wake one day and discover that bots are interacting with their fellow bots in the forum.

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Hi. I had offered something. Would you mind creating a thread like Report AI generated post here with proof? Because if we report AI generated post by using Report to moderator button, the mod has to check it with a tool and take a decision which may take a lot of time.

Are there reliable tools to check plagerism now? The last time I checked, those tools were all faulty and they could possibly categorise a human written text as AI generated.

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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2024, 12:51:25 AM »
Are there reliable tools to check plagerism now? The last time I checked, those tools were all faulty and they could possibly categorise a human written text as AI-generated.
There are many tools to check plagiarism for free and they work well.
I don't know how it didn't work for you but by checking the text manually and pasting them to a plagiarism checker like Grammarly or Quillbot they are working fine.
And ai generated checkers is not 100% accurate better report it to mods to manually check and let them decide.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2024, 03:11:20 AM »
It is not good behavior for us to post AI generated posts as we have seen such posts on the Bitcointalk forum get an account banned. We think plagiarism and AI are the same thing, so posting a generation like this doesn't bode well. Although as per the rules of this forum AI posting rules can be done but I think if such rules remain true AI post rules are likely to stop soon.

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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2024, 12:00:17 PM »
It is not good behavior for us to post AI generated posts as we have seen such posts on the Bitcointalk forum get an account banned. We think plagiarism and AI are the same thing, so posting a generation like this doesn't bode well. Although as per the rules of this forum AI posting rules can be done but I think if such rules remain true AI post rules are likely to stop soon.

Bitcointalk never banned any account only for AI case unless any post catch for plagiarism or sharing obvious scam link. Indeed AI post couldn't be labeled direct plagiarism but we can say that that AI users is so lazy so he is not replying byself and just spamming. AI chat will generate text from text you provide which is partially own idea. Bitcointalk DT member first gives neutral tag and any member continues than he got negative but if he caught with AI with wearing signature than definitely he will get negative without any chance.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2024, 04:01:33 PM »
Are there reliable tools to check plagerism now? The last time I checked, those tools were all faulty and they could possibly categorise a human written text as AI generated.

There is a combination of different methods which can give a reliable enough result.

Bitcointalk never banned any account only for AI case unless any post catch for plagiarism or sharing obvious scam link.

This information is outdated. There are users banned for AI usage on BTT who have no other violations. Not all are banned, but some are banned already.

But here we have our own view on the situation and BTT practice is not determinant.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2024, 04:37:59 PM »
The rules regarding AI-generated posts are very clear. Of course, there will be users who still want to use AI for posts, but they will be punished as these rules indicate. What this forum does not need are meaningless "conversations" between users, which do not generate trust either in new users or in projects that want to use the forum as a platform to publicize their products. It is not difficult to detect AI-generated posts; It's actually much simpler than people think.
It's nice to hear that users who may use AI to grow their accounts will get punished for the act. Yeah, I agree a forum like this one would never want to have meaningless conversations between users and the posts that are created with AI are totally meaningless or somehow a type of plagiarism.

I agree with you that these days it's much easy for smart people to understand that either a post is created by AI or by a user. AI mostly follows the same patterns which it has been trained for and now most of us can detect AI text just by reading it a little. And, there are also some good AI text detectors that help us a lot in detecting AI generated texts.
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